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It's huge loss for him if he still can't get a good contract since he will be the same with Oladipo where he decline the offer of Indiana. Maybe he's value will decrease if there's no team will agree to what he contract he likes. Maybe this issue is from his agent and they demand to much to lakers or any other team and this is lesson needed to learned by other players that they should settle on the current offers if they didn't prove anything yet.
Remember what happened to Kemba Walker way back with charlotte? That's really a loss for him as his agent thinks that he have that value but suddenly Lakers didn't see that value after giving him a season to comes up and bring additional force for this team. Lesson learn to all players as they might lost that opportunities to have a better contract and continue playing with a good deals behind. Wrong decision, he thinks he could be like LBJ or KD, this kid has a lot to learn in life, he started with a small contract, wanting to get a high contract and he got it, but he got greedy, want more until the time has come that no more opportunity has open for him.
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Yeah that is what I am probably most excited about, seeing what Zach Lavine can do with a legitimate roster around him. If he can't get them to a decent playoff seed then it will show he is not the super star that some ( or he ) believes that he is or is becoming. To actually win a championship we would still need another super star, but this is certainly a good start for him. I have to imagine if he plays well this year he will be offered a max contract..but we shall see.
He is even trying to showcase what he is capable of in Olympics. Just recently, USA won and Zach Lavine's steals was on the spotlight for turning the game over. I think he got 2-3 steals + airplane dunks on that game against Australia. Yeah I guess to an extent he is, but the Olympics aren't near the competition that the actual NBA is. If we are being honest most of these teams would lose to the better teams in the NBA pretty handedly. Lavine is going to need to step it up in the regular season NBA games to show that he is more than just a scorer but a consistent scorer, leader, defender etc. Now that he has a legitimate team around him I very excited to see how he deals with having a bunch of other solid players around him.
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August 06, 2021, 02:57:06 PM |
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Yeah that is what I am probably most excited about, seeing what Zach Lavine can do with a legitimate roster around him. If he can't get them to a decent playoff seed then it will show he is not the super star that some ( or he ) believes that he is or is becoming. To actually win a championship we would still need another super star, but this is certainly a good start for him. I have to imagine if he plays well this year he will be offered a max contract..but we shall see.
He is even trying to showcase what he is capable of in Olympics. Just recently, USA won and Zach Lavine's steals was on the spotlight for turning the game over. I think he got 2-3 steals + airplane dunks on that game against Australia. Yeah I guess to an extent he is, but the Olympics aren't near the competition that the actual NBA is. If we are being honest most of these teams would lose to the better teams in the NBA pretty handedly. Lavine is going to need to step it up in the regular season NBA games to show that he is more than just a scorer but a consistent scorer, leader, defender etc. Now that he has a legitimate team around him I very excited to see how he deals with having a bunch of other solid players around him. I just want to share this picture that was shared in our Facebook GC. ctto-This Lakers lineup is better than the starting 5 of the current team USA, if this Laker team will play, they can easily win the championship and will never give France a chance to even close in the scoring. Would you agree with my statement here?
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Yeah I guess to an extent he is, but the Olympics aren't near the competition that the actual NBA is. If we are being honest most of these teams would lose to the better teams in the NBA pretty handedly. Lavine is going to need to step it up in the regular season NBA games to show that he is more than just a scorer but a consistent scorer, leader, defender etc. Now that he has a legitimate team around him I very excited to see how he deals with having a bunch of other solid players around him.
Their last playoffs appearance was 2017 and they were blocked by the Celtics in the first round with 4 win streak after Bulls win the first 2 games. That was Butler and D. Wade's time. We could say that was a long time ago and Lavine came after that year. 3-4 years without a good team mate and now that he have some I bet he is also super excited about what will come out of their chemistry. Been sniffing all around sports news. Will there be a chance for a Lillard - Simmons trade? Because Ben have no interest in going back to 76ers. A lot of things happened in the locker room that we don't really know. While Lillard is also not signing yet and unhappy with the Trail Blazers. Chances? 50-50?
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August 06, 2021, 06:15:21 PM |
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I just want to share this picture that was shared in our Facebook GC. ctto-This Lakers lineup is better than the starting 5 of the current team USA, if this Laker team will play, they can easily win the championship and will never give France a chance to even close in the scoring. Would you agree with my statement here? I do! This 5 superstars can do the damage both inside and outside and the good thing here, they are also good in playing defense, they can hit you both side, and it's a complete package where determination to win is all what they wanted to do. Compared to the current team US where still having a hard time rotating, though in fairness they already adjust after that lose from France but I mean this Lakers Starting 5 knows that LeBron will create the play all they have to do is to wait for him to start moving either one on one or rotate the ball to the best open man for a high percentage shot.
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August 06, 2021, 06:27:07 PM |
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Iguana signed back with the Warriors and it’s looking like a Wiggins for Ben Simmons deal is close to happening. I’m not sure how I feel about that. I thought Wiggins was a perfect fit alongside the splash brothers, while Ben Simmons can’t shoot the ball, literally. I guess there’s no better place to learn to shoot, but this seems like Golden State is really risking a lot here.
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Or Schroder overpriced himself in this trade that's why no one is picking him up? I agree that looking for a bigger contract is not that bad, but what if no one is willing to pay him that much?
I remember Latrell Sprewell, he was playing very good with the Knicks but then declined a huge contract sighting "I have families to feed", unfortunately, no one wanted him because of the PJ Carlesimo incident and then he just lost himself in NBA. And when some team get him, he was already past his prime. I do hope that it won't happen to Dennis.
He is trying to play a risky game, if he wins, he can maximize his income but if he loses, he will have nothing, I think his agent doesn't have a good analysis, they try to play the games of an elite superstar but Dennis is not yet in that level. He "played" a risky game, and I think he lost. I am not saying that no team will ever pay him that kind of money and his chances are 100% gone, but lets be honest with each other, it is obvious that dude has lost his chance with many teams so far and it is not looking good. So, what we are seeing right now is him trying to oversell his talents and then it is not looking good for him because his talents do not worth that much for nearly 20 teams so far. I personally believe that he was a 15 million a year type of guy, that extra was a bit of a oversell, 4 years 60 million would be perfect for him, and not like that is a small amount neither, that would be enough for him for all his life, we are talking about 60! million here. He earned some other money so far, and probably will earn more later, lets say ALL of that money is expenses during his career, even with that 60 million is more than 100 families will make in a life time.
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August 06, 2021, 08:47:44 PM |
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Iguana signed back with the Warriors and it’s looking like a Wiggins for Ben Simmons deal is close to happening. I’m not sure how I feel about that.
You mean Iguodala? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Well, this guy wants to retire with the warriors that gave him multiple championships, that's probably the main reason, and aside from that, he is still a big help for the warrior despite his age. I thought Wiggins was a perfect fit alongside the splash brothers, while Ben Simmons can’t shoot the ball, literally. I guess there’s no better place to learn to shoot, but this seems like Golden State is really risking a lot here.
Wiggins is also inconsistent, Warriors had the offense they need as Thompson might be back next season, so they need the service specialty of Simmon which is the defense and I'm sure the Warriors will develop him to be one of the elite NBA players.
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August 06, 2021, 09:04:25 PM |
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so they need the service specialty of Simmon which is the defense and I'm sure the Warriors will develop him to be one of the elite NBA players.
They need Simmons to be in the playoffs, but if Simons will choke as he did with the last playoffs, then I think the Warriors will regret acquiring him for one of their best players. However, I'm optimistic too that the Warriors management will not make a bad decision, Simmons is still young, they can still develop him to be a better player and play with the GSW culture effectively.
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August 06, 2021, 09:35:23 PM |
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so they need the service specialty of Simmon which is the defense and I'm sure the Warriors will develop him to be one of the elite NBA players.
They need Simmons to be in the playoffs, but if Simons will choke as he did with the last playoffs, then I think the Warriors will regret acquiring him for one of their best players. However, I'm optimistic too that the Warriors management will not make a bad decision, Simmons is still young, they can still develop him to be a better player and play with the GSW culture effectively. Let's make this deal to be finalized yet before we make speculation, one thing is sure is that the 76ers will let go of Simon as he is not improving for a player that receives a good contract with them. Warriors is a championship team, Simmons playing with the unselfish team will make him better, with Curry's ability to shoot as one of the deadliest 3 pointers, I think the inside will be more open and that's where Simmons could penetrate. His weakness is only the Free throw, or probably a little bit of a "low IQ" problem, but that can fix over time if he is willing to learn.
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August 06, 2021, 10:57:45 PM |
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Iguana signed back with the Warriors and it’s looking like a Wiggins for Ben Simmons deal is close to happening. I’m not sure how I feel about that.
You mean Iguodala? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Well, this guy wants to retire with the warriors that gave him multiple championships, that's probably the main reason, and aside from that, he is still a big help for the warrior despite his age. I thought Wiggins was a perfect fit alongside the splash brothers, while Ben Simmons can’t shoot the ball, literally. I guess there’s no better place to learn to shoot, but this seems like Golden State is really risking a lot here.
Wiggins is also inconsistent, Warriors had the offense they need as Thompson might be back next season, so they need the service specialty of Simmon which is the defense and I'm sure the Warriors will develop him to be one of the elite NBA players. Wiggins serves no purpose once klay comes back. Simmons would be a much better fit. Can co run the floor with steph, and with steph and klay they don't need Simmons jacking 3s. Wiggins is inconsistent and needs volumes of shots to be effective on the floor. Simmons can effect the game without shooting which is why he would be perfect
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August 07, 2021, 01:17:51 AM |
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Iguana signed back with the Warriors and it’s looking like a Wiggins for Ben Simmons deal is close to happening. I’m not sure how I feel about that.
You mean Iguodala? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Well, this guy wants to retire with the warriors that gave him multiple championships, that's probably the main reason, and aside from that, he is still a big help for the warrior despite his age. I thought Wiggins was a perfect fit alongside the splash brothers, while Ben Simmons can’t shoot the ball, literally. I guess there’s no better place to learn to shoot, but this seems like Golden State is really risking a lot here.
Wiggins is also inconsistent, Warriors had the offense they need as Thompson might be back next season, so they need the service specialty of Simmon which is the defense and I'm sure the Warriors will develop him to be one of the elite NBA players. Wiggins serves no purpose once klay comes back. Simmons would be a much better fit. Can co run the floor with steph, and with steph and klay they don't need Simmons jacking 3s. Wiggins is inconsistent and needs volumes of shots to be effective on the floor. Simmons can effect the game without shooting which is why he would be perfect I disagree though, Even if Klay is back in the line-up, Wiggins can still contribute, his been effective and has increased his 3 point field goal percentage with GSW. And I think he will be developed like Igoudala type of player, playing good defense. Against Lebron, he has successes, I remember a game when he guard Lebron and James did have a hard time with him. Wiggins even blocks Lebron in the post and make him commit errors. And speaking of Iggy: NBA free agency 2021: Andre Iguodala says he's returning to Golden State Warriors. So he will be coming back to GSW and probably retire with them.
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August 07, 2021, 03:40:21 AM |
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I disagree though, Even if Klay is back in the line-up, Wiggins can still contribute, his been effective and has increased his 3 point field goal percentage with GSW. And I think he will be developed like Igoudala type of player, playing good defense. Against Lebron, he has successes, I remember a game when he guard Lebron and James did have a hard time with him. Wiggins even blocks Lebron in the post and make him commit errors. And speaking of Iggy: NBA free agency 2021: Andre Iguodala says he's returning to Golden State Warriors. So he will be coming back to GSW and probably retire with them. Wiggins proved himself in that play-in tournament. He is making progress with the GSW team so I agree with you. This might become a bad trade in the long run. He is a good reserve whenever the splash brothers are taking their rest. I don't know what GSW management is thinking but he had made some adjustments and averaged double-digit per game. Iggy is just looking for another 5m this year. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Retire on your championship team is just an alibi to be signed.
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It's huge loss for him if he still can't get a good contract since he will be the same with Oladipo where he decline the offer of Indiana. Maybe he's value will decrease if there's no team will agree to what he contract he likes. Maybe this issue is from his agent and they demand to much to lakers or any other team and this is lesson needed to learned by other players that they should settle on the current offers if they didn't prove anything yet.
Remember what happened to Kemba Walker way back with charlotte? That's really a loss for him as his agent thinks that he have that value but suddenly Lakers didn't see that value after giving him a season to comes up and bring additional force for this team. Lesson learn to all players as they might lost that opportunities to have a better contract and continue playing with a good deals behind. Kemba's case though is different, Charlotte made a good decision in trading him because of his injury. And then when Boston acquired him, he wasn't the same Kemba when he was in Charlotte and I would say that he become more of a liability with the Celtics as he reinjured himself again and again that's why they didn't see any value of him and decided to trade him. But Dennis case is not, he is still healthy, but who knows, declining to play with the Lakers with so much potential to win a ring, maybe he value more of the money that he could get, but the question is what team are going to get him, so yeah, it's a risk on his part.
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August 07, 2021, 05:25:01 AM |
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How about the news that another Fil-Am is also in the league besides Jordan Clarkson? He was the overall second pick in this draft so a lot of hype around him. Rockets sign Jalen GreenSee some highlights of his kid, I would say he is really talented, like in the mold of KD and he is very athletic. I'm sure Filipinos are very proud of seeing another him going into the NBA now. He and his team visited Philippines if I'm not mistaken in 2019 and played some games.
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August 07, 2021, 07:37:03 AM |
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I just want to share this picture that was shared in our Facebook GC. ctto-This Lakers lineup is better than the starting 5 of the current team USA, if this Laker team will play, they can easily win the championship and will never give France a chance to even close in the scoring. Would you agree with my statement here? No offense but I'd rather put Wayne Ellington as their starting shooting guard and will put Carmelo in the bench. The Lakers are lacking in offense especially in threes. What is the career 3pt % of Anthony? 35.2% while Ellington is 38.2% and take note that he is 42.2% 3pt shooter last season. Defensively, Howard and Davis are good enough already to dominate the paint. Iguana signed back with the Warriors and it’s looking like a Wiggins for Ben Simmons deal is close to happening. I’m not sure how I feel about that. I thought Wiggins was a perfect fit alongside the splash brothers, while Ben Simmons can’t shoot the ball, literally. I guess there’s no better place to learn to shoot, but this seems like Golden State is really risking a lot here.
Iguodala to Warriors again? A reunion again ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) . Its just unfortunate that Barnes didn't return to the Warriors but still Iggy can still be a big piece defensively and he knows the team already because he stayed there for a long time so he knows what he will do there. In Simmons-Wiggins trade, I think that this might be a good trade. Wiggings + 1 draft pick for Simmons would be enough knowing that Simmons' value decreased by a lot. On the other hand though, Wiggins might be a good fit in the team. Curry, Green, Wiggins, Harris, Embiid and Drummond as their reserve big.
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August 07, 2021, 08:19:36 AM |
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Wiggins serves no purpose once klay comes back. Simmons would be a much better fit. Can co run the floor with steph, and with steph and klay they don't need Simmons jacking 3s. Wiggins is inconsistent and needs volumes of shots to be effective on the floor. Simmons can effect the game without shooting which is why he would be perfect
This also how I see it, once Klay return playing the center of their offense is again for the splash bro but they need to have defenders who can run and that's how Simmons will work, he might not a good offensive shooter but with an open floor in front of him he can surely make a damage he's still young his legs still fresh to run together with Green, Iggy, Klay and Steph. Waiting for that trade to happened, I don't see wiggins as a good addition to GSW, my opinion though. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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August 07, 2021, 10:10:34 AM |
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Wiggins serves no purpose once klay comes back. Simmons would be a much better fit. Can co run the floor with steph, and with steph and klay they don't need Simmons jacking 3s. Wiggins is inconsistent and needs volumes of shots to be effective on the floor. Simmons can effect the game without shooting which is why he would be perfect
This also how I see it, once Klay return playing the center of their offense is again for the splash bro but they need to have defenders who can run and that's how Simmons will work, he might not a good offensive shooter but with an open floor in front of him he can surely make a damage he's still young his legs still fresh to run together with Green, Iggy, Klay and Steph. Waiting for that trade to happened, I don't see wiggins as a good addition to GSW, my opinion though. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Same here, Wiggins been in different teams already but he was not that so effective, so we are hopeful that with the addition of Ben Simmons, things will change for the better. I miss the old warrior, if only Thompson was their to play, they could be a championship contender team with a healthy Curry as well of course.
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August 07, 2021, 10:17:54 AM |
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Wiggins serves no purpose once klay comes back. Simmons would be a much better fit. Can co run the floor with steph, and with steph and klay they don't need Simmons jacking 3s. Wiggins is inconsistent and needs volumes of shots to be effective on the floor. Simmons can effect the game without shooting which is why he would be perfect
This also how I see it, once Klay return playing the center of their offense is again for the splash bro but they need to have defenders who can run and that's how Simmons will work, he might not a good offensive shooter but with an open floor in front of him he can surely make a damage he's still young his legs still fresh to run together with Green, Iggy, Klay and Steph. Waiting for that trade to happened, I don't see wiggins as a good addition to GSW, my opinion though. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Same here, Wiggins been in different teams already but he was not that so effective, so we are hopeful that with the addition of Ben Simmons, things will change for the better. I miss the old warrior, if only Thompson was their to play, they could be a championship contender team with a healthy Curry as well of course. He has his best production with the Timberwolves, but that team is a struggling team so there's no chance he can play in the playoffs. https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wiggian01.htmlCompard to Simmons, I think Simmons is more of an all-around player as this guy could get a triple-double but a guaranteed double-double in every game. His rebounding and assist is also impressive, that's the reason why Warriors are interested in acquiring him.
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August 07, 2021, 10:23:16 AM |
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Wiggins serves no purpose once klay comes back. Simmons would be a much better fit. Can co run the floor with steph, and with steph and klay they don't need Simmons jacking 3s. Wiggins is inconsistent and needs volumes of shots to be effective on the floor. Simmons can effect the game without shooting which is why he would be perfect
This also how I see it, once Klay return playing the center of their offense is again for the splash bro but they need to have defenders who can run and that's how Simmons will work, he might not a good offensive shooter but with an open floor in front of him he can surely make a damage he's still young his legs still fresh to run together with Green, Iggy, Klay and Steph. Waiting for that trade to happened, I don't see wiggins as a good addition to GSW, my opinion though. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Same here, Wiggins been in different teams already but he was not that so effective, so we are hopeful that with the addition of Ben Simmons, things will change for the better. I miss the old warrior, if only Thompson was their to play, they could be a championship contender team with a healthy Curry as well of course. Compard to Simmons, I think Simmons is more of an all-around player as this guy could get a triple-double but a guaranteed double-double in every game. His rebounding and assist is also impressive, that's the reason why Warriors are interested in acquiring him. But they ask to much on every teams who show an interest on Simmons so provably they cannot seal the deal if the ask to much just to dispose him on Sixers but if they lower down there ask trade piece maybe they can make this trade happen as they for sure right now Sixers and Simmons doesn't have a good relation right now. If Warriors can successfully get Simmons on their team then a huge chance for this team to go to playoffs or even more.
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