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August 16, 2021, 07:50:30 PM
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if they'll complete the season with no major injuries, this Lakers squad still have that great chance to win the title, LeBron and Davis still the best combo in terms of both offense and defense,

Westbrook and Anthony they'll be adding more offensive threats and if combine well by the coach, it will bring the most of this team to a winning squad.

Still early, but for sure all of them are after the ring and they are on the mission to prove those critics regarding to their age.
So, this is a very important variable. The "x" factor that caught several teams off guard this NBA season (2020/2021) was injuries, there were a lot of injuries, even I was worried about that.
I confess that if they don't have a lot of injuries this season, the Lakers and Nets will have a great chance of making it to the NBA Finals this season (of course anything can happen), but I believe these teams have a lot of potential for that to happen.

Basketball isn't just a height thing otherwise all 7 footers would be awesome.  Athleticism is a huge part of playing basketball.  And for most people that tall, their shooting mechanics are all wrong from anywhere out from 5 feet from the bucket.  Limbs are too long for smooth mechanics.  And besides most are goofy and can't move laterally quick enough to last.
Look, I believe this is a compilation of factors that can make a difference. In my opinion, height is indeed an important factor, but for a person to be an excellent player, he needs to have skill, be a good shooter, be a good movimentation and be a good defender (which in my humble opinion this last characteristic is a of the most important).

For example, over the years we've seen a number of HS and college basketball players who are tall and who are occupying SG and PG positions.
I believe these characteristics of that players is going to change


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Honestly I do not get why memphis even did this kind of deal. Eric Bledsoe is not a bad player at all, he is a good player and now they have Rondo, PatBev and some other guy for him, was that even worth it? I would say that none of the players they got really worths it. Don't get me wrong Eric Bledsoe is not a great player neither, if you get a good trade for him then you take it, however I do not believe that he is THAT bad neither to just basically fire him for anything you get.

PatBev have proven time and time after again that dude is not a great player neither, and basically just annoys people without backing it up, he just likes to get under peoples skins which is fine, Gary Payton did that a lot and that was the guy people compared him with, but Payton had the talent to back that up as well, PatBev had like 7 ppg last year and was a bench, why did memphis even wanted him?

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August 16, 2021, 08:33:25 PM
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Honestly I do not get why memphis even did this kind of deal. Eric Bledsoe is not a bad player at all, he is a good player and now they have Rondo, PatBev and some other guy for him, was that even worth it? I would say that none of the players they got really worths it. Don't get me wrong Eric Bledsoe is not a great player neither, if you get a good trade for him then you take it, however I do not believe that he is THAT bad neither to just basically fire him for anything you get.

PatBev have proven time and time after again that dude is not a great player neither, and basically just annoys people without backing it up, he just likes to get under peoples skins which is fine, Gary Payton did that a lot and that was the guy people compared him with, but Payton had the talent to back that up as well, PatBev had like 7 ppg last year and was a bench, why did memphis even wanted him?

They certainly know what they are doing, otherwise, this trade wouldn't be a success. Rondo is the most valuable gem in the trade, if a team only knows how to maximize the talent of Rondo, he will be a big help for them. Rondo is a 2-time champion, one with the Celtics and one with the LA Lakers, so in terms of experience, he has experienced everything a player has to call his journey a successful one.

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We are in the new generation of basketball, if you are a big man and you don't know how to shoot outside, you'll likely not gonna last in the NBA as you will only become a liability in the long run. We have a lot of good man now, we got Davis and Embbiid, these are good because they are not just dominant inside, they are good 3 point shooters as well.

 I used to remember Shaq and Wallace back then they'll both dominate the league using their strength inside, but both don't have that shooting capability.

But after LeBron, every big man needs also to have that skills not just to help the team inside but also to have that threat outside, good example is Davis and Embiid.

same goes with KD and Giannis both have the height but can also kill you outside as improvement keeps being introduce to this game.
 

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August 16, 2021, 09:05:22 PM
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We are in the new generation of basketball, if you are a big man and you don't know how to shoot outside, you'll likely not gonna last in the NBA as you will only become a liability in the long run. We have a lot of good man now, we got Davis and Embbiid, these are good because they are not just dominant inside, they are good 3 point shooters as well.

 I used to remember Shaq and Wallace back then they'll both dominate the league using their strength inside, but both don't have that shooting capability.

But after LeBron, every big man needs also to have that skills not just to help the team inside but also to have that threat outside, good example is Davis and Embiid.

same goes with KD and Giannis both have the height but can also kill you outside as improvement keeps being introduce to this game.
 

Yeah, that was back in the old days when basketball was more physical, and I like the old days as for me it's more entertaining than what we are seeing in the present. Shaq and Wallace are so strong and they don't shoot 3s, they even struggle with their FT percentage. I think it's Curry who changes it, lol, that's why he got the biggest contract now as he makes everyone learn to shoot because of his great 3 point shooting.

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Yeah, that was back in the old days when basketball was more physical, and I like the old days as for me it's more entertaining than what we are seeing in the present. Shaq and Wallace are so strong and they don't shoot 3s, they even struggle with their FT percentage. I think it's Curry who changes it, lol, that's why he got the biggest contract now as he makes everyone learn to shoot because of his great 3 point shooting.
Wow, old times! I also like the 90s and early 2000s style of play.
It was a game with a lot of contact, we had good players with 3-point shots and other players with excellent ball handling!

But these days I've noticed that the type of game (and NBA players has changed). We have a large portion making shoot in the 3 points. By the way, we had "unicorns players", tall players with good ball handling and they can shoot!!

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Yeah, that was back in the old days when basketball was more physical, and I like the old days as for me it's more entertaining than what we are seeing in the present. Shaq and Wallace are so strong and they don't shoot 3s, they even struggle with their FT percentage. I think it's Curry who changes it, lol, that's why he got the biggest contract now as he makes everyone learn to shoot because of his great 3 point shooting.
Wow, old times! I also like the 90s and early 2000s style of play.
It was a game with a lot of contact, we had good players with 3-point shots and other players with excellent ball handling!

But these days I've noticed that the type of game (and NBA players has changed). We have a large portion making shoot in the 3 points. By the way, we had "unicorns players", tall players with good ball handling and they can shoot!!

There's no flopping in the old days, I wonder who invented that "flop", is it Lebron? lol...

Flopping is cheating, it's a disrespect to the real essence of competition and I think the organization will have to impose more penalties on floppers as it does not develop a real competition that everyone could just use just to win with no essence of satisfaction.

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There's no flopping in the old days, I wonder who invented that "flop", is it Lebron? lol...

Flopping is cheating, it's a disrespect to the real essence of competition and I think the organization will have to impose more penalties on floppers as it does not develop a real competition that everyone could just use just to win with no essence of satisfaction.
Thanks for saying on a subject I didn't remember!! lol

These days there are a lot of flooping, basically there are some players who are practically "actors" and manage to perfectly stage a move to get the foul!

ps: LeBron was one of them, but I believe that these days he's slowed down a bit in relation to flooping.
A player who can cause an offensive foul on the opposing team is Varejão (ex Cavs and Warriors) and he didn't do much flooping, in my opinion he had a good game iq in this area.

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August 16, 2021, 10:10:25 PM
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Yeah, that was back in the old days when basketball was more physical, and I like the old days as for me it's more entertaining than what we are seeing in the present. Shaq and Wallace are so strong and they don't shoot 3s, they even struggle with their FT percentage. I think it's Curry who changes it, lol, that's why he got the biggest contract now as he makes everyone learn to shoot because of his great 3 point shooting.
Wow, old times! I also like the 90s and early 2000s style of play.
It was a game with a lot of contact, we had good players with 3-point shots and other players with excellent ball handling!

But these days I've noticed that the type of game (and NBA players has changed). We have a large portion making shoot in the 3 points. By the way, we had "unicorns players", tall players with good ball handling and they can shoot!!

We also forgot that when the coming of European players, the NBA change too. Dirk was too lanky when he starts his NBA career, tall, but can dribble the ball and can shoot outside including three's.

Shaq was another one, tall, and damn, so powerful that no one can stop him during his prime with the Lakers, he can dribble the ball too.

Of course, Steph Curry another one who really changes the complexion of the game with his 3 point shooting way outside of the line. James Harden step back, which everyone now is doing.

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There's no flopping in the old days, I wonder who invented that "flop", is it Lebron? lol...

Flopping is cheating, it's a disrespect to the real essence of competition and I think the organization will have to impose more penalties on floppers as it does not develop a real competition that everyone could just use just to win with no essence of satisfaction.
Thanks for saying on a subject I didn't remember!! lol

These days there are a lot of flooping, basically there are some players who are practically "actors" and manage to perfectly stage a move to get the foul!

ps: LeBron was one of them, but I believe that these days he's slowed down a bit in relation to flooping.
A player who can cause an offensive foul on the opposing team is Varejão (ex Cavs and Warriors) and he didn't do much flooping, in my opinion he had a good game iq in this area.

I remember Vlade Divac and Anderson Verajao as well, there are a lot of floppers even in the 80's and 90's. Karl Malone used to flop against Dennis Rodman and exaggerate things.

Another great example is Bill Laimbeer of the Bad Boys Detroit Pistons, just Google "The Laimbeer flop".

Even Manu Ginoblli flops. But it seems Lebron though has a long history of flopping that it really stuck in our minds, Lol.  Grin

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Glad to see Patrick Beverly traded from the Clippers. His dangerous play to break Booker’s nose in the playoffs has become all too much what you expect from him. He shouldn’t even be in the NBA in my opinion, but I’m glad he’s going to a non-contender to be a backup as opposed to his role on the Clippers.

It surprises me that they trade two veterans for Eric Bledsoe, I guess they value Eric more than Rondo and Bev. Grizzlies already has Ja Morant so I don't know how both Rajon and Pat can fit in their rotation. Although Bledsoe was just a returning Clipper, maybe he can fill the point guard position that will be left by the two veteran. Yeah.  Anyhow, let's hear more trade, I'm sure everyone is waiting for the Ben Simmons drama.

Memphis is loaded with guards so provably they will just trade those guys in exchange with more good talents, But actually they can use Rondo as their back up point guard if they can utilize his talent for sure they can give them a good plays, but we don't know what's the real plan by Memphis so let see how those two guys journey on their new team.

Also many are now curious to know about which team can successfully acquired and its interesting to know if he will go on strong teams or on average team only.

Pat Beverly is bringing his style in the Pelicans, lol... in any team that he is playing, it will gain the attention of the fans due to his style of play, I like his defense but sometimes he is too much, he did not anymore think that he can also hurt his opponent, he does not even respect CP3 which was his teammate before.

That's what make him a unique player but unfortunately the game is now changing and many teams now want a player who can produce in both ends so if Pat Beverly can't adopt to the changes maybe he's career will go to end soon the players are now evolving so provably they will pick those guys who are more better than him. I do hope he can provide a good performance to his new team so that he can get minutes there since its really fun to watch Pat doing his dirty works to his opponent.

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August 16, 2021, 11:47:59 PM
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But it seems Lebron though has a long history of flopping that it really stuck in our minds, Lol.  Grin

Because he's too strong to others. Even others are hard fouling him, he can withstand it and referees can't see it. That's why he just flop. But his flops are just few compare to others. I watched a video of that.

It was just noticeable and big deal to many because Lebron James has many haters especially during his prime. It was started when he leaves Cavaliers for the first time where he also did some flops but not a big issue to others during that time.
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August 16, 2021, 11:51:08 PM
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Glad to see Patrick Beverly traded from the Clippers. His dangerous play to break Booker’s nose in the playoffs has become all too much what you expect from him. He shouldn’t even be in the NBA in my opinion, but I’m glad he’s going to a non-contender to be a backup as opposed to his role on the Clippers.

It surprises me that they trade two veterans for Eric Bledsoe, I guess they value Eric more than Rondo and Bev. Grizzlies already has Ja Morant so I don't know how both Rajon and Pat can fit in their rotation. Although Bledsoe was just a returning Clipper, maybe he can fill the point guard position that will be left by the two veteran. Yeah.  Anyhow, let's hear more trade, I'm sure everyone is waiting for the Ben Simmons drama.

Memphis is loaded with guards so provably they will just trade those guys in exchange with more good talents, But actually they can use Rondo as their back up point guard if they can utilize his talent for sure they can give them a good plays, but we don't know what's the real plan by Memphis so let see how those two guys journey on their new team.

Also many are now curious to know about which team can successfully acquired and its interesting to know if he will go on strong teams or on average team only.

Pat Beverly is bringing his style in the Pelicans, lol... in any team that he is playing, it will gain the attention of the fans due to his style of play, I like his defense but sometimes he is too much, he did not anymore think that he can also hurt his opponent, he does not even respect CP3 which was his teammate before.

That's what make him a unique player but unfortunately the game is now changing and many teams now want a player who can produce in both ends so if Pat Beverly can't adopt to the changes maybe he's career will go to end soon the players are now evolving so provably they will pick those guys who are more better than him. I do hope he can provide a good performance to his new team so that he can get minutes there since its really fun to watch Pat doing his dirty works to his opponent.

There will always be a team who will pick him up so long as he plays hard nose defense.  He is a little much but honestly the game in the 80s and early 90s was played to that style somewhat.  He might go overboard but it's refreshing to see someone play end to end like it's the last game of the playoffs.  A lot of these guys don't even know how to play d anymore.

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August 16, 2021, 11:56:47 PM
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There's no flopping in the old days, I wonder who invented that "flop", is it Lebron? lol...

Flopping is cheating, it's a disrespect to the real essence of competition and I think the organization will have to impose more penalties on floppers as it does not develop a real competition that everyone could just use just to win with no essence of satisfaction.

Haters lol. There's no inventor of it. Flopping is effective and many players are doing that.

And who's to blame why flopping is effective? Lebron? Players? No.

You should blame the referees. Flopping will not work if refs can see it clearly. Refs are the worst today, not players. They even make the league soft so you won't see any hard defense now.
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Steph Curry really changed the shooting in NBA. Even those big man follows him.

But you know guys, Steph just improves his own since he can't do something inside. He thinks of a way how can help a team and that is by improving his three-point skills. And the result is great so he will continue doing that.

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August 17, 2021, 02:42:45 AM
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Steph Curry really changed the shooting in NBA. Even those big man follows him.

But you know guys, Steph just improves his own since he can't do something inside. He thinks of a way how can help a team and that is by improving his three-point skills. And the result is great so he will continue doing that.

I don’t think you can give all the credit to Steph. It’s just that kids like him grew up with basketball in a way generations before him didn’t. It’s not uncommon nowadays for parents to start training their kids seriously for sports from before they can walk. Education on training as well as materials have come a long way and I think that’s what we’re witnessing.

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August 17, 2021, 03:26:03 AM
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Steph Curry really changed the shooting in NBA. Even those big man follows him.

But you know guys, Steph just improves his own since he can't do something inside. He thinks of a way how can help a team and that is by improving his three-point skills. And the result is great so he will continue doing that.

I don’t think you can give all the credit to Steph. It’s just that kids like him grew up with basketball in a way generations before him didn’t. It’s not uncommon nowadays for parents to start training their kids seriously for sports from before they can walk. Education on training as well as materials have come a long way and I think that’s what we’re witnessing.

Yeah! you are absolutely right about that, back in the days we don't have any basketball school that teaches our young children the basics of dribbling, passing, and shooting. while the old era needs to do it on their own with limited space and time because you can't play all you want especially if you don't own any private space to make your own home court. Right now, almost everyone has their own home court and some good instructor to make them good at a very young age and when they become teenagers, they mosy likely unstoppable.

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August 17, 2021, 03:29:04 AM
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Steph Curry really changed the shooting in NBA. Even those big man follows him.

But you know guys, Steph just improves his own since he can't do something inside. He thinks of a way how can help a team and that is by improving his three-point skills. And the result is great so he will continue doing that.

I agree Steph has definitely changed the game when it comes to the guard position. His unstoppable shooting, off ball movement and handles separates him from the rest despite his defensive flaws. For the big man of today's NBA, if you're talking about stretch four/centers, then I think most of the credit belongs to Kevin Durant, Anthony Davis, etc. I mean these are big men that can shoot from three that spreads the floor more and still get rebounds, block for their teams.
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August 17, 2021, 03:33:09 AM
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Haters lol. There's no inventor of it. Flopping is effective and many players are doing that.

And who's to blame why flopping is effective? Lebron? Players? No.

You should blame the referees. Flopping will not work if refs can see it clearly. Refs are the worst today, not players. They even make the league soft so you won't see any hard defense now.
It's the league management first before the refs.  Grin
Refs are just following orders. If the league is letting the flops slide with just $5000 of fine then refs will somehow bite with players acting like they are Hollywood.
I think this was exaggerated or got worse when Shaq was dominating the paint.
They need a call for an offensive foul because no one can stop him so they use the acting style to sell it to the referees.
Maybe Charles invented it.  Cheesy
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August 17, 2021, 06:05:29 AM
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Haters lol. There's no inventor of it. Flopping is effective and many players are doing that.

And who's to blame why flopping is effective? Lebron? Players? No.

You should blame the referees. Flopping will not work if refs can see it clearly. Refs are the worst today, not players. They even make the league soft so you won't see any hard defense now.
It's the league management first before the refs.  Grin
Refs are just following orders. If the league is letting the flops slide with just $5000 of fine then refs will somehow bite with players acting like they are Hollywood.
I think this was exaggerated or got worse when Shaq was dominating the paint.
They need a call for an offensive foul because no one can stop him so they use the acting style to sell it to the referees.
Maybe Charles invented it.  Cheesy

I remember Shaq spin move always assures Lakers the basket. No one can stop it.

Until these flops are recognized by the refs, and you are right with the go signal of NBA managements, this is an effective way for
each players to get ref attentions, the league becomes so soft after players rehearse with the acting schools Tongue hahaha, kidding aside
it's been there after the Jordan Era.
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