[ANN][EGC] EverGreenCoin | Environmental Green Causes | Full 7% PoS | Foundation

[Zollkron]

I'm very very sorry but the situation has reached my stop-loss limit on Bittrex. I gonna sell my 200k coins to minimize the losts, if you are already interested it is your oportunity to take them in a cheap price. It was a pleasure. Good luck to everybody.

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[rahmad2nd]

Very much dump...
I don't know why this situation...
 

[Buds]

Very much dump...
I don't know why this situation...
  

Weak hands is all...just pick up their dumps while you can.

[kiklo]

In all situations where someone has mentioned lost coins, I have asked them to PM me so I could investigate the claim in the order it was received.

In my Case, that is a Lie,

You did not ask me to PM you anything, plus I pasted the bad transaction id in my post and all you said was it is up to yobit.

 

FYI:
In your next Post what don't you outline what I need to do , so you will reimburse those 7700 crappy coins to me , before this crap coin goes to 0 and gets delisted.

FYI2:
This is the only thing you did , Absolutely Nothing.

First Off , I am not Happy with this coin or Yobit at the Moment.  

Made my very 1st purchase of evergreen from Yobit which was sent out to me on the BAD FORK!

Left them a support ticket, but considering I still have a unanswered Ticket for Supercoin from 4-06-2016,
I am not going to hold my breath.

Is anything being done with Yobit , or are the people (like me) that were stupid enough to buy this coin , SHIT OUTTA LUCK.

signed,

 

I do understand your frustration with the situation as does everyone in the EverGreenCoin community. I do share your frustration with YoBit as they have been unresponsive to support tickets, "Update/Issue/Fork" reports, pleadings in the trollbox, and tweets. If you would be so kind as to retweet this: https://twitter.com/EverGreenCoin_/status/735098400799109124  Perhaps if enough users demand action from them to get on the correct blockchain they will do so. You mentioned that you have already submitted a support ticket and I thank you for taking the time to do that as well.

Unfortunately we are at the mercy of Yobits willingness to act. If other community members have a yobit account, please submit a ticket asking them to resync their EverGreenCoin blockchain and retweet the mentioned tweet also. Even if it does not directly effect you by having EGC on yobit or having expected transactions from yobit, it is effecting us all. Perhaps stop by the trollbox and give a shout for an admin expressing the need for the matter to be addressed and the sooner addressed the better.

You are not out of luck, kiklo. Yes, the events that lead us here were unlucky but, we have been considerable lucky in resolutions. I did persist with the other 3 exchanges diligently and promptly to get them on the correct blockchain as fast as humanly possible and with not one user missing coins from their exchange account. We are very lucky for that outcome. I am making every effort to do the same with YoBit but I need them to make some effort as well. If I could get it done myself, it would have been done days ago.

I would add we are also lucky because EverGreenCoin does have a foundation. When I was faced with the incorrect first findings of C-Cex's internal audit ~24 hours ago seeking coin reconciliation of over 180k EGC to cover a later found incorrect discrepancy, I was on skype talking to C-Cex's admin discussing the options we had. A swap, the coin and blockchain being deemed broken and delisted, or the 180k EGC being covered by the foundation were the options. I can honestly tell you I was leaning towards the foundation reconciling C-Cex's books as this would have been the fastest and least detrimental and time consuming to the community. Of course I would not have made the decision alone and would have allowed for the community to debate and vote on the course of action we would follow. Very fortunately repairing C-Cex's wallet did work and there was in fact no discrepancy. We were again, very lucky.

The longer YoBit continues operation on the incorrect blockchain, the greater the damage and cost to balance their books will be. Yobit's inaction in not the fault of anyone's but Yobit. Again, I understand you are upset. Please do not direct that anger or hostility towards myself or EverGreenCoin as a whole. Their unwillingness to address the matter swiftly is their fault and myself and other members of the community, yourself included, are making every effort to urge them to get on the correct blockchain. When they do the matter of missing coins from them being on the wrong blockchain will be addressed.

I hope I have eased at least some of yours and others anger kiklo. At this point, everything possible is being done and will continue to be. Thank you in advance for your understanding and patience with the matter.


EDIT: I now see you have been in the trollbox urging them to get on the correct chain. Thank you for doing so and yes I have been as well. I promise you we will get through this and your coins will be back where they belong just as soon as possible.

[Zollkron]

Very much dump...
I don't know why this situation...
  

Weak hands is all...just pick up their dumps while you can.

I bought them since they were over 1900 satoshi three months ago, i've been patient until the stop-loss (190 satoshi or under). Sorry but not more lost from my part, Mr. Strong Hands.

Btw i still 64k on the wallet, the other sold coins have been re-invested. Divide and you win, it's very simple. Diversify or not, that's the question.

Greetings.

[kiklo]

Very much dump...
I don't know why this situation...
  

Weak hands is all...just pick up their dumps while you can.

LOL,
Dev does nothing about Lost coins on a major exchange, because of a fork in the coin's network.
Even lies and say he ask for me to PM him, when he did no such thing.  
The fact that a fork was even possible when he claims to have a checkpoint server is Utter Bullshit.
Checkpoint server prevents forks, but not with this crappy coin.

Smart investors running for the door before this crappy coins sinks to the ocean floor is more like it.


 

FYI:
Here is transaction id from your fork
2016-05-19 05:56:25
7690.06370820 EGC
bb3e262b0e76e371210923f48e245b5127683d1ab2a824e95a964775c29d49e0

[rahmad2nd]

Very much dump...
I don't know why this situation...
  

Weak hands is all...just pick up their dumps while you can.

LOL,
Dev does nothing about Lost coins on a major exchange, because of a fork in the coin's network.
Even lies and say he ask for me to PM him, when he did no such thing.  
The fact that a fork was even possible when he claims to have a checkpoint server is Utter Bullshit.
Checkpoint server prevents forks, but not with this crappy coin.

Smart investors running for the door before this crappy coins sinks to the ocean floor is more like it.


 

good luck but i will keep hold...

[kiklo]

good luck but i will keep hold...

Up to you if you want to throw your money away on a crappy coin and dev.
Speaking of the Liar , where is he?
So he can lie some more about doing anything.

 

[teddybeer]

Lol everyone want a free money ?

If your head dumb enough to process any transactions when wallet is under maintenance, nobody have to compensate anything to you.

Deal with it turn on your brains finaly.

[EverGreenCoin]

Ummm very little movement and/or fluctuations with EGC coin among the traders on Bittrex. They look untrusted with the coin. It's sad but we need give a new impulse to the coin in some way. Any ideas?

I already shared my idea about it. First we would need a payment gateway and then an online renewable energy shop. But hey that's only my 2 EGC ey

That sounds very interesting, could we contact with gocoin or similar payment gateways? It will be great!

Yes, very interesting indeed, the beauty of which is it grows other ideas. We had previously been in contact with coinpayments.net and had a campaign to convince them to consider adding EverGreenCoin. That effort was unfruitful. I mentioned the reasons I suspect it was so in this post. We can and will in the near future try again. As I previously mentioned, it might be wise to let the markets recover before we do so so that marketcap gives them more reason to consider. Of course we can add gocoin to the list.

I personally like the idea of dropshipping and think it is a promising idea. When I mentioned the idea to a colleague, they were of the opinion it was not wise and only offered, "it has failed for others." as an explanation and had to end the conversation. Of course that is not a strong enough argument to not pursue the idea. I will see if they are willing to elaborate on their discontent with the idea and, if so, present that point of view to the community on their behalf if they are unwilling to. But again, I like the idea but of course I am open to arguments that might prove it a path not to continue on. I have not yet heard such arguments.

Regardless of the dropshipping debate, the next step remains a payment processing gateway. I do know crypto-friendly merchants that would be happy to accept EGC once we reach this milestone. Some of them wanting to feature EGC and perhaps offer discounts for its use. Which brings up another point and idea I would like to bounce of the community members that like this idea so far: Why use EGC for a purchase as oppose to just using BTC? Know, we know the reasons that it helps EGC, creating demand. But, why would a consumer that already sees the benefit of using crypto and does want to use crypto for the purchase add the seemingly unnecessary step of converting the BTC into EGC for the purchase? This is the sticking point that I think all 'alt' coins face. So, we need an incentive. Now, when many of the environmentally supportive ideas (solar miners, solar mining farm, ecosia.org or similar, ect.) are implemented and using EGC has tangible evidence as being a currency that its use alone helps the environment, I do feel many people would then see that once unnecessary conversion step (BTC or other to EGC) as a worthwhile step. Until then, we need more I think, an incentive. Perhaps the EGC Foundation can step in to make an incentive by ways of covering a small discount or a rebate. Often times a discount of only 2% offsets shipping, it is implementing the discount that posses a problem. Now, some like-minded merchants will offer discounts and are small/agile enough, yet serve a global consumer base, to do so on a per transaction basis. The foundation matching or even covering the discount would be attractive to consumers and therefor merchants alike. To the best of my knowledge, implementing a discount at the payment processing gateway is not an option. Unless we were able to make some arrangement with said payment processing gateway, this might not be a feasible option thus making the discount incentive idea not realistic for many merchants and merchants that simply can not handle discounts on a per transaction basis for whatever reason. For this reason the rebate idea becomes more possible and promising. The foundation could rebate purchases made with EGC, therefore making an incentive for consumers. Of course, both the discount and rebate could not be a large because the funding is limited to do so but, wise consumers know it does not take much to offset shipping or sales tax (VAT).

Just an idea I have been thinking on and wanted to, like I said, share / discuss  with the community members that are being helpful with these and other ideas. Thanks to those of you that are!  

[kiklo]

Lol everyone want a free money ?

If your head dumb enough to process any transactions when wallet is under maintenance, nobody have to compensate anything to you.

Deal with it turn on your brains finaly.

Hey ASSHAT,

I received the transaction on May 19th, even staked a day or so later.
Then your crappy fork removed my coins.
And the stupid wallet was not under maintenance, when I withdrew them.

@teddybeer , you're stupid please don't comment and keep proving it.

 

[kiklo]

@ Crappy Lying Dev,

What don't you respond or are you out of lies for the day?


 

FYI:
If you are just going to let the Users on Yobit lose their investment because you are a Crappy Dev.

Just admit it,
but don't be offering others compensation when you have ignored all of the Yobit people for 30 days.

[crysx]

Ummm very little movement and/or fluctuations with EGC coin among the traders on Bittrex. They look untrusted with the coin. It's sad but we need give a new impulse to the coin in some way. Any ideas?

I already shared my idea about it. First we would need a payment gateway and then an online renewable energy shop. But hey that's only my 2 EGC ey

already looked into - and initial steps taken ..

#crysx

[Hank3]

This is crypto dude, you are the only one responsible for your coins. Always send a small transaction and see if it goes through before you send a big one.

[kiklo]

This is crypto dude, you are the only one responsible for your coins. Always send a small transaction and see if it goes through before you send a big one.

Not when your Stupid Fork Loses the coins and your Lying ass Dev offers compensation to others for their loss, but not yours.
The fork wiped out 2 or more days of transactions, so really comment on what you know.
He said he would be in the chat room on Yobit, I have not see him there.

30 days and the Pozer has done Nothing, so now he pays for being a liar.


 


FYI:
Worse he knows he is a Liar and did me wrong , which is why the coward won't speak to me directly.

[portdavenport]

Ummm very little movement and/or fluctuations with EGC coin among the traders on Bittrex. They look untrusted with the coin. It's sad but we need give a new impulse to the coin in some way. Any ideas?

I already shared my idea about it. First we would need a payment gateway and then an online renewable energy shop. But hey that's only my 2 EGC ey

That sounds very interesting, could we contact with gocoin or similar payment gateways? It will be great!

Yes, very interesting indeed, the beauty of which is it grows other ideas. We had previously been in contact with coinpayments.net and had a campaign to convince them to consider adding EverGreenCoin. That effort was unfruitful. I mentioned the reasons I suspect it was so in this post. We can and will in the near future try again. As I previously mentioned, it might be wise to let the markets recover before we do so so that marketcap gives them more reason to consider. Of course we can add gocoin to the list.

I personally like the idea of dropshipping and think it is a promising idea. When I mentioned the idea to a colleague, they were of the opinion it was not wise and only offered, "it has failed for others." as an explanation and had to end the conversation. Of course that is not a strong enough argument to not pursue the idea. I will see if they are willing to elaborate on their discontent with the idea and, if so, present that point of view to the community on their behalf if they are unwilling to. But again, I like the idea but of course I am open to arguments that might prove it a path not to continue on. I have not yet heard such arguments.

Regardless of the dropshipping debate, the next step remains a payment processing gateway. I do know crypto-friendly merchants that would be happy to accept EGC once we reach this milestone. Some of them wanting to feature EGC and perhaps offer discounts for its use. Which brings up another point and idea I would like to bounce of the community members that like this idea so far: Why use EGC for a purchase as oppose to just using BTC? Know, we know the reasons that it helps EGC, creating demand. But, why would a consumer that already sees the benefit of using crypto and does want to use crypto for the purchase add the seemingly unnecessary step of converting the BTC into EGC for the purchase? This is the sticking point that I think all 'alt' coins face. So, we need an incentive. Now, when many of the environmentally supportive ideas (solar miners, solar mining farm, ecosia.org or similar, ect.) are implemented and using EGC has tangible evidence as being a currency that its use alone helps the environment, I do feel many people would then see that once unnecessary conversion step (BTC or other to EGC) as a worthwhile step. Until then, we need more I think, an incentive. Perhaps the EGC Foundation can step in to make an incentive by ways of covering a small discount or a rebate. Often times a discount of only 2% offsets shipping, it is implementing the discount that posses a problem. Now, some like-minded merchants will offer discounts and are small/agile enough, yet serve a global consumer base, to do so on a per transaction basis. The foundation matching or even covering the discount would be attractive to consumers and therefor merchants alike. To the best of my knowledge, implementing a discount at the payment processing gateway is not an option. Unless we were able to make some arrangement with said payment processing gateway, this might not be a feasible option thus making the discount incentive idea not realistic for many merchants and merchants that simply can not handle discounts on a per transaction basis for whatever reason. For this reason the rebate idea becomes more possible and promising. The foundation could rebate purchases made with EGC, therefore making an incentive for consumers. Of course, both the discount and rebate could not be a large because the funding is limited to do so but, wise consumers know it does not take much to offset shipping or sales tax (VAT).

Just an idea I have been thinking on and wanted to, like I said, share / discuss  with the community members that are being helpful with these and other ideas. Thanks to those of you that are!  

I've offered to assist in Website / Online Development for EGC previously. The offer still stands.
PM me for discussion.

Portdavenport
www.scifidomain.com

[crysx]

Ummm very little movement and/or fluctuations with EGC coin among the traders on Bittrex. They look untrusted with the coin. It's sad but we need give a new impulse to the coin in some way. Any ideas?

I already shared my idea about it. First we would need a payment gateway and then an online renewable energy shop. But hey that's only my 2 EGC ey

That sounds very interesting, could we contact with gocoin or similar payment gateways? It will be great!

Yes, very interesting indeed, the beauty of which is it grows other ideas. We had previously been in contact with coinpayments.net and had a campaign to convince them to consider adding EverGreenCoin. That effort was unfruitful. I mentioned the reasons I suspect it was so in this post. We can and will in the near future try again. As I previously mentioned, it might be wise to let the markets recover before we do so so that marketcap gives them more reason to consider. Of course we can add gocoin to the list.

I personally like the idea of dropshipping and think it is a promising idea. When I mentioned the idea to a colleague, they were of the opinion it was not wise and only offered, "it has failed for others." as an explanation and had to end the conversation. Of course that is not a strong enough argument to not pursue the idea. I will see if they are willing to elaborate on their discontent with the idea and, if so, present that point of view to the community on their behalf if they are unwilling to. But again, I like the idea but of course I am open to arguments that might prove it a path not to continue on. I have not yet heard such arguments.

Regardless of the dropshipping debate, the next step remains a payment processing gateway. I do know crypto-friendly merchants that would be happy to accept EGC once we reach this milestone. Some of them wanting to feature EGC and perhaps offer discounts for its use. Which brings up another point and idea I would like to bounce of the community members that like this idea so far: Why use EGC for a purchase as oppose to just using BTC? Know, we know the reasons that it helps EGC, creating demand. But, why would a consumer that already sees the benefit of using crypto and does want to use crypto for the purchase add the seemingly unnecessary step of converting the BTC into EGC for the purchase? This is the sticking point that I think all 'alt' coins face. So, we need an incentive. Now, when many of the environmentally supportive ideas (solar miners, solar mining farm, ecosia.org or similar, ect.) are implemented and using EGC has tangible evidence as being a currency that its use alone helps the environment, I do feel many people would then see that once unnecessary conversion step (BTC or other to EGC) as a worthwhile step. Until then, we need more I think, an incentive. Perhaps the EGC Foundation can step in to make an incentive by ways of covering a small discount or a rebate. Often times a discount of only 2% offsets shipping, it is implementing the discount that posses a problem. Now, some like-minded merchants will offer discounts and are small/agile enough, yet serve a global consumer base, to do so on a per transaction basis. The foundation matching or even covering the discount would be attractive to consumers and therefor merchants alike. To the best of my knowledge, implementing a discount at the payment processing gateway is not an option. Unless we were able to make some arrangement with said payment processing gateway, this might not be a feasible option thus making the discount incentive idea not realistic for many merchants and merchants that simply can not handle discounts on a per transaction basis for whatever reason. For this reason the rebate idea becomes more possible and promising. The foundation could rebate purchases made with EGC, therefore making an incentive for consumers. Of course, both the discount and rebate could not be a large because the funding is limited to do so but, wise consumers know it does not take much to offset shipping or sales tax (VAT).

Just an idea I have been thinking on and wanted to, like I said, share / discuss  with the community members that are being helpful with these and other ideas. Thanks to those of you that are!  

ill elaborate as best i can ...

faith in the company drop shipping ( unless a large established company of course ) is always a very low - and always something that leads to 'no stock' being kept on site ... which also leads to all forms of issues when stock-on-hand is non existent ...

my comment of 'it has failed for others' should have stood on its own merit steven ... especially coming from a man that has extensive retail industry experience in many areas - where i owned not only three retails stores here in australia - but also expanded into a warehouse and online shopping company with consultancy offices in three states - larger than the size of the most of the US ... drop shipping accrues more loss of faith in a company - due to their perceived inability to carry stock and thus their accountability ... its accountability that is the big issue here - and the perceived stability of the company due to lack of holdings of stock ...

yes - perceived ... we have been over this many times in private ...

i dont like coming out here and debating something that i have firm experience in ... you know that ... i would rather DO and SHOW ... like you with the amazing dev work you do ...

we need to discuss where this will lead to a cohesive system we can work from ... and inform the community and public as to what will need to happen in future with such things as shopping and ideas related ...

i agree with MANY things that have been discussed and brought forward - but dropshipping will not be one that i will back ... not unless a proven track record of the company we setup is prevalent - that will bring a solid backing from the community of BUYERS ... the only ones that actually have a say in this ... as these buyers dont exist - we can only speculate ... and as such - investing funds ( as well as time and effort - taking away from the development work that we have been discussing for many many weeks now ) into an idea that seems to be ( to me ) an unfounded sentiment of moving forward ...

an online shop - yes definitely ... to carry nothing in terms of stock of equipment - no way ... it will mean that we are no better than any other 'business' and their dog out in crypto world - that wants to start something like this ...

we are more than that - and the infrastructure will attest to that ... we will not be just an idea tying to surface ... especially when there is an infrastructure backing the idea ...

if you all feel im being too direct - then voice your opinions ... and if its still not a strong enough argument to NOT go for it ( yet ) - then we will have a lot more to discuss than just dropshipping ...

as for the payment gateway - i can only work with you on that - as skaia and i have been working on a system long before it was even mentioned here ... but your ideas seems to be relevant and logical and well placed ... more than just a dev - there are many more factors that are faced on this level - and the one thing doesnt seem to get very much mention - IS the infrastructure and beckend of ANY coin ...

whereas my whole focus has been that - which is why the development of the projects we have under our belts had to be put on hold until the infrastructure and backend was solid ...

i refuse to discuss any more ideas here with such things - and this is due to the reasons ive discussed with you personally steven ... too much is always at stake - and my reasons have been voice privately to you ...

im going back to continue working on the infrastructure and the entire backend of the ecosystem for 'theprojects' and 'theteam' ...

a few things that require attention here - and starting this week - i hope we can really start on them ...

tanx mate ...

#crysx

[EverGreenCoin]

...

I've offered to assist in Website / Online Development for EGC previously. The offer still stands.
PM me for discussion.

Portdavenport
www.scifidomain.com

I had PMd you back on May 31st on this very topic, Port. Perhaps you overlooked it, but I will resend it to you now.

Thanks!

[crysx]

... and the above posts regarding forks and payments - are the MAIN reason that proves PERCEPTION is everything ...

regardless of whether facts prove otherwise or not ...

if ANYONE here thinks that getting into the crypto world means you are safe from ANYTHING happening - you are dead wrong ...

it is YOUR responsibility - and with that responsibility comes the risk of of ANYTHING happening - like forks and issues with the network and other such things ...

if losses occur - then so be it ... if gains occur - then so be it ... whatever happens is the responsibility of the person involved in making the deals in the first place ... which means the PUNTER ... yes - YOU - the investor ...

there ARE responsibilities on the devs and the team that make things happen within the network - but their responsibilities are limited to what they CAN do - not YOUR decisions or money or investments ...

for those that have a grievance - the WORST thing you can do is start slander against the dev team ... that really is the WORST thing you can do ...

the BEST thing you can do is to make DECENT conversation in ways that are open to you - AND try and find a resolve ... thats it ...

steven has been MORE than giving in so much - and yet - this slander continues ... so much for a democratic way of resolving issues! ...

if i were in control of the foundations funds - i would be so much more harsh than steven has been towards the so called 'losses' that occur ...

its very simple - if YOU make the decision to 'get in' on ANY project ... then YOU need to accept the responsibility of ANYTHING ( not just losses ) that occur ...

i live and work by the one creed that keeps my team and i alive and well in such times ...

NEVER invest any more than you are willing to LOSE ... NEVER ...

if you cant abide by that one creed ( though more a rule ) - then get out of crypto altogether ...

especially if you have invested in such things like ethereum - where people are losing more than just a few hundred dollars of investments ... like REAL investors - the majority take it on the chin - and accept that the devs are doing what they can to resolve issues - and WORK WITH the devs and team to find a resolve ...

slander will always be around unfortunately - and wont still wont resolve issues ... but that will be like water off a ducks back - especially to an old crypto duck like me ...

steven has my back - and i his ...

now resolve these issues in a civil manner - or dont ... it will be up to you entirely ...

#crysx

[kiklo]

...

I've offered to assist in Website / Online Development for EGC previously. The offer still stands.
PM me for discussion.

Portdavenport
www.scifidomain.com

I had PMd you back on May 31st on this very topic, Port. Perhaps you overlooked it, but I will resend it to you now.

Thanks!

Crappy Dev , you are worthless.

Why did you offer to compensate the other guy for his loss , but ignore the fact your worthless hide has done Nothing to help recover the Loss funds from Yobit.
Which were Lost Due to your Crappy Coin Software and a Crappy So called checkpoint Server.