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RBR is back, well Max is back.

I'm still not sure if Max its so good or Perez its so bad

[LTU_btc]

Suzuka gave us interesting race, but as usual, there was no fight for win. Red Bull already too construcors championship trophy. What a great race for Mclaren with both drivers on podium. And Piastri - it doesn't happens often when driver on his rookie season reach podium.
It looked a bit ridiculous when Mercdes tried to copy Ferrari defense strategy with DRS. They had no chance to protect Russel and keep Sainz behind.

RBR is back, well Max is back.

I'm still not sure if Max its so good or Perez its so bad

I would say that Perez is bad. It's not that he has different car than Max or some other reasons. That accident was completely his fault. There was few races when he showed signs of recovery, but now he is back to usual business. Though, most of drivers probably would look bad in shadow of Verstappen. Still, despite it, Red Bull got early constructors championship trophy.

[swogerino]

RBR is back, well Max is back.

I'm still not sure if Max its so good or Perez its so bad

Max has consistently shown that he is a very good driver since the early stages by being able to always beat his team mates whoever they were and Ricciardo was one of them which for me is a very good driver overall.

Regarding Perez I always think that he was hyped more by the media than he has delivered,I never liked him since his time at McLaren where he had a relatively quick car and he kept failing to deliver with such car,the times with Force India where he got his first win was all about luck but that win pumped him to better and better teams until he came to Redbull where he had won some races.He though can never be compared to Verstappen as he is way to damn slow compared to him,in this race of today he was completely sleeping and trying lame attempts overtaking that saw him retiring from the race.

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RBR is back, well Max is back.

I'm still not sure if Max its so good or Perez its so bad

Max has consistently shown that he is a very good driver since the early stages by being able to always beat his team mates whoever they were and Ricciardo was one of them which for me is a very good driver overall.

I think nobody can say that he is a bad driver.
We can discuss how good he is.

Even Hamilton was a god but when he got another decent driver in his team he lost the title (Rosberg)

[moneystery]

Today's weather conditions in India are very sunny and hot, so there is the possibility of quite a fierce fight if there are no incidents like yesterday at several corners, including the first corner, because there is a very vulnerable situation for every rider to get hit. Soon the Indian MotoGP Race will start and in my opinion this schedule is a little early because India is a country in the Asian region, now let's get ready to watch the MotoGP Race on a new circuit this season with the second longest track after Mugello.

It's getting close for Bagnaia, the crash today was very bad for the championship and he has very little lead now, Martin and Bezzecchi are having a simple run at the moment and Bagnaia is giving away too many points with the crashes.

it was bad enough for bagnaia to crash in this race and end up with a dnf. if he hadn't crashed, he might have been able to widen the gap with martin and bezzecchi, but unfortunately a bad strategy ruined his race. if he can't improve his strategy in the coming races, it's possible for martin or bezzecchi to overtake him for first place.

[swogerino]

RBR is back, well Max is back.

I'm still not sure if Max its so good or Perez its so bad

Max has consistently shown that he is a very good driver since the early stages by being able to always beat his team mates whoever they were and Ricciardo was one of them which for me is a very good driver overall.

I think nobody can say that he is a bad driver.
We can discuss how good he is.

Even Hamilton was a god but when he got another decent driver in his team he lost the title (Rosberg)

Yeah but this depends only on the team management and not on Max,I am sure Max would not mind having Hamilton as a team mate as he knows Hamilton is near 40 and this would be a great opportunity to him to beat Hamilton in the same car.I know that maybe deep inside he wants to have Perez as a team mate but I think that after having this third title he would be very much entertained to have Hamilton as a team mate,the age difference will play a huge difference in the driving style and of course I think Verstappen would be the better driver here only thanks to the age as I cannot clearly distinguish which one is better from the two.

[Koal-84]

it was bad enough for bagnaia to crash in this race and end up with a dnf. if he hadn't crashed, he might have been able to widen the gap with martin and bezzecchi, but unfortunately a bad strategy ruined his race. if he can't improve his strategy in the coming races, it's possible for martin or bezzecchi to overtake him for first place.

I think Bezzecchi would have won the race even without Bagnaia's crash, the pressure on Bagnaia will definitely increase now and he needs Konstanze again in the next races, otherwise it could be difficult to defend the world championship. Bagnaia is simply dropping too many points and that is partly his own fault.

[koang]

it was bad enough for bagnaia to crash in this race and end up with a dnf. if he hadn't crashed, he might have been able to widen the gap with martin and bezzecchi, but unfortunately a bad strategy ruined his race. if he can't improve his strategy in the coming races, it's possible for martin or bezzecchi to overtake him for first place.

I think Bezzecchi would have won the race even without Bagnaia's crash, the pressure on Bagnaia will definitely increase now and he needs Konstanze again in the next races, otherwise it could be difficult to defend the world championship. Bagnaia is simply dropping too many points and that is partly his own fault.

Agree. A classic mistake, Francesco Bagnaia was careless, making his own mistakes and falling.
The new circuit provides new challenges for racers.
Racers must quickly adapt to master the racing field to provide their best performance.
Marco Bezzecchi became the fourth racer to win at a new circuit out of seven new circuits in the last six years.
The other three racers are Miguel Oliveira, Andrea Iannone, and Marc Marquez.

[budi691]

it was bad enough for bagnaia to crash in this race and end up with a dnf. if he hadn't crashed, he might have been able to widen the gap with martin and bezzecchi, but unfortunately a bad strategy ruined his race. if he can't improve his strategy in the coming races, it's possible for martin or bezzecchi to overtake him for first place.

I think Bezzecchi would have won the race even without Bagnaia's crash, the pressure on Bagnaia will definitely increase now and he needs Konstanze again in the next races, otherwise it could be difficult to defend the world championship. Bagnaia is simply dropping too many points and that is partly his own fault.

The pressure of competition in motorbike racing is enormous, especially at the highest level like MotoGP. Bagnaia will definitely feel the pressure to perform well and maintain his points lead. However, I am sure that Bagnaia will maintain his position at the top of the standings, even though personal mistakes can be an important factor in losing points, this will be a lesson for Bagnaia in the next race.
Therefore, consistency is an important factor for Bagnaia if he wants to defend his title. and don't make unnecessary mistakes

[Velvet78]

Such a wonderful race weekend for Verstappen! But his performance made the race really boring to watch for me. I at least waited for some competition for other places like podium. But there wasn't any for that either. Ferrari drivers should have been better in this Grand Prix. If they improved the competition level a little more then the race would have been more exciting.

I was really disappointed with Perez's performance. He was like his mind was on something else. Because he didn't seem he was concentrated on the race. His very bad performance led to his retiring the car. But still Red Bull became the champion constructor thanks to Verstappen's high effort.

[püsür]

Such a wonderful race weekend for Verstappen! But his performance made the race really boring to watch for me. I at least waited for some competition for other places like podium. But there wasn't any for that either. Ferrari drivers should have been better in this Grand Prix. If they improved the competition level a little more then the race would have been more exciting.

I was really disappointed with Perez's performance. He was like his mind was on something else. Because he didn't seem he was concentrated on the race. His very bad performance led to his retiring the car. But still Red Bull became the champion constructor thanks to Verstappen's high effort.

After the singapore gp, it made me wonder if verstappen was really going to have a drop in performance, but he did it again. It won't change after this time. Redbull will continue to make a name for itself for 2-3 years, since it won't produce a terrible car in the following years. I can watch the race to see who will be second, but there is no drama, it's been very unpleasant. People, including me, might complain that redbull and max are dominating the grid. What should they do, if they have talent? Should they make the car bad? Max is utterly amazing and we should be glad to witness his career.

[ILuckyGuyI]

Now there is a break of one week before Qatar GP. I was really used to watching races every week so it feels like there is an emptiness inside me this week. 

Red Bull have officially announced their constructors championship thanks to Verstappen's wonderful peformance in Japan. There was even an interesting situation about this. Even if Perez didn't collect any points in the season until now Verstappen was still going to be able to keep Red Bull at top. I guess this is enough to show how incredible Verstappen is now. 

[Davian144]

It's getting close for Bagnaia, the crash today was very bad for the championship and he has very little lead now, Martin and Bezzecchi are having a simple run at the moment and Bagnaia is giving away too many points with the crashes.

The accident that happened to Bagnaia on Sunday in the Indian MotoGP race was very detrimental to him because as a result of this it made two riders from the Satellit Ducati team start to cut the points gap after being able to finish first and second in the Indian MotoGP race. The two riders are the ones you mentioned, namely Bezzecchi and Martin, even though Martin experienced quite high levels of dehydration when the race started with only a few laps remaining so he almost missed out on the second podium at that time because Quartararo was very close to him with only a few laps remaining in the race.

However, Martin was able to secure the second podium even though after finishing he went straight to his team's garage to ask his own team crew for water and on the other hand, Bagnaia also admitted his mistake in choosing the front tire because he admitted that he suffered a lot throughout the practice session when using the medium front tire.

[Koal-84]

The pressure of competition in motorbike racing is enormous, especially at the highest level like MotoGP. Bagnaia will definitely feel the pressure to perform well and maintain his points lead. However, I am sure that Bagnaia will maintain his position at the top of the standings, even though personal mistakes can be an important factor in losing points, this will be a lesson for Bagnaia in the next race.
Therefore, consistency is an important factor for Bagnaia if he wants to defend his title. and don't make unnecessary mistakes

Yes the pressure is high, but I thought this year as world champion some of the pressure should already be off and he will have a consistent year, unfortunately it was not like that and he now has to perform well and safely until the end of the season.

Every now and then a safe second or third place is better than a crowbar to first and maybe a crash, at least in view of the world championship. I also think that Bagnaia will finish close, but Bezzecchi and Martin have "tasted blood" and have little to lose and are currently very safe and fast in form.

[swogerino]

The pressure of competition in motorbike racing is enormous, especially at the highest level like MotoGP. Bagnaia will definitely feel the pressure to perform well and maintain his points lead. However, I am sure that Bagnaia will maintain his position at the top of the standings, even though personal mistakes can be an important factor in losing points, this will be a lesson for Bagnaia in the next race.
Therefore, consistency is an important factor for Bagnaia if he wants to defend his title. and don't make unnecessary mistakes

Yes the pressure is high, but I thought this year as world champion some of the pressure should already be off and he will have a consistent year, unfortunately it was not like that and he now has to perform well and safely until the end of the season.

Every now and then a safe second or third place is better than a crowbar to first and maybe a crash, at least in view of the world championship. I also think that Bagnaia will finish close, but Bezzecchi and Martin have "tasted blood" and have little to lose and are currently very safe and fast in form.

Bagnaia should be very careful right now and even be a rational rider rather than chasing the win.He should not only think about this season Championship but also for the upcoming one next year as another crash will not cost him only this title but most probably he will become like Marquez then,keep falling and crashing and the damage will be hard to recover.

Based on this I think higher chances to win this season MotoGP are for the runners up as they have got nothing to lose,they are second and third and they can only gain if they push a little,of course they will take such risk as they have not had a bad crash as of yet.

[Davian144]

Yes the pressure is high, but I thought this year as world champion some of the pressure should already be off and he will have a consistent year, unfortunately it was not like that and he now has to perform well and safely until the end of the season.

And what I can't stop thinking about this season is that when Bagnaia crashed, it was Bezzecchi who won the race. This has happened three times this season so Bezzecchi still has to be considered as a candidate to win along with Martin because both of them always put more pressure on Bagnaia. And the rest of this season will be even more exciting in MotoGP because the points gap is getting closer now.

Every now and then a safe second or third place is better than a crowbar to first and maybe a crash, at least in view of the world championship. I also think that Bagnaia will finish close, but Bezzecchi and Martin have "tasted blood" and have little to lose and are currently very safe and fast in form.

In the remaining races this season, Bagnaia has to consider this because he must always be on the podium in order to secure points and himself in the standings. Because if he crashes and loses more points it will make him unable to defend the world championship for this season again, especially now that Bezzecchi and Martin are still very thirsty to continue to win in every race and Sprint race.

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Small news.
After taking the Moto Gp, India is thinking big.

They want the F1.

I think this marriage will be done, for sure they have the audience considering how big is their population.

[Davian144]

Bagnaia should be very careful right now and even be a rational rider rather than chasing the win.He should not only think about this season Championship but also for the upcoming one next year as another crash will not cost him only this title but most probably he will become like Marquez then,keep falling and crashing and the damage will be hard to recover.

This week the MotoGP race will take place in Japan where it is the host country for Honda and Yamaha manufacturers, but European manufacturers such as Ducati could also surprise there at the end of this week. Because looking at the track, it is very supportive for European manufacturers which in fact always rely on greater power in each race, apart from that there will also be test riders who will get wild cards such as test riders from the Yamaha factory with special liveries.

Based on this I think higher chances to win this season MotoGP are for the runners up as they have got nothing to lose,they are second and third and they can only gain if they push a little,of course they will take such risk as they have not had a bad crash as of yet.

My personal prediction is actually the same, but I look more towards fierce competition this season because Bagnaia will also continue to try to defend his title and continue to give his best in every race this season. All the riders are in Japan and we will see what the weather is like tomorrow for Practice1 to Practice2 because manufacturers like Honda will also work harder to be able to win at home even though so far Honda is not doing well.

[LTU_btc]

Small news.
After taking the Moto Gp, India is thinking big.

They want the F1.

I think this marriage will be done, for sure they have the audience considering how big is their population.

When F1 started in India back in 2011, I already thought it's here for long. But everything ended just after 3 year contract. But if India now have serious intentions, it probably will be different story. As I understand, they're using same track like in past.
One important question - what track from current calendar they're going to replace?

[Minor Miner]

Small news.
After taking the Moto Gp, India is thinking big.

They want the F1.

I think this marriage will be done, for sure they have the audience considering how big is their population.

When F1 started in India back in 2011, I already thought it's here for long. But everything ended just after 3 year contract. But if India now have serious intentions, it probably will be different story. As I understand, they're using same track like in past.
One important question - what track from current calendar they're going to replace?

They do look to be serious. And I think that's because people in India currently are pretty crazy about cars. There are a lot of really good drivers in India as well. 2011 was a very different time. if I remember correctly, even the Internet was not accessible for the majority of the population in India. But now that is not a problem. So a lot of people are actually going to be interested and will also be able to watch the competition. Of course that is going to attract a lot of sponsors as well. So the earning is going to be good as far as I am concerned.