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Each block is stacked on top of the previous one. Adding another block to the top makes all lower blocks more difficult to remove: there is more "weight" above each block. A transaction in a block 6 blocks deep (6 confirmations) will be very difficult to remove.
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January 11, 2013, 12:53:08 PM |
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the best thing what BFL can do if the situation get worse (and my feeling is this happen now) is to come up with the whole truth. they should give out the information which the customers want to know. time for crisis management, BFL!
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January 11, 2013, 02:17:27 PM |
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The lovely anti-semite "joke" he tried to tell me at the end of our encounter was also classy. I don't know if he thought I was Jewish or what?
No, he thought you were dumb. Which you are. He in fact is Jewish. Hence he can't make anti-semite jokes. Only funny jokes. Oh boy, the same guy who made the piracy issue with at least one subset of Asians and the other crack [to me] about moping floors (just because I was of Hispanic descent?) Cultural sensitivity? He's never heard of it apparently. Um, the Chinese DO steal IP and mass produce counterfeit products ALL THE TIME. fucking people with their over sensitive PC approach to everything. Eat a teaspoon of Cement and harden the fuck up Sally.
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Tip Me if believe BTC1 will hit $1 Million by 2030 1DobZomBiE2gngvy6zDFKY5b76yvDbqRra
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January 11, 2013, 03:46:21 PM |
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The lovely anti-semite "joke" he tried to tell me at the end of our encounter was also classy. I don't know if he thought I was Jewish or what?
No, he thought you were dumb. Which you are. He in fact is Jewish. Hence he can't make anti-semite jokes. Only funny jokes. Oh boy, the same guy who made the piracy issue with at least one subset of Asians and the other crack [to me] about moping floors (just because I was of Hispanic descent?) Cultural sensitivity? He's never heard of it apparently. What? Being Spanish means you should mop floors? Wow PuertoLibre, I think every Spanish person on the forum should now hate you for that racist comment ...
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klondike_bar
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January 11, 2013, 03:55:26 PM |
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I am pretty sure he just wrote something laced with stereotypes just above me. Glad I cannot see it anymore.
The lovely anti-semite "joke" he tried to tell me at the end of our encounter was also classy. I don't know if he thought I was Jewish or what?
No, he thought you were dumb. Which you are. He in fact is Jewish. Hence he can't make anti-semite jokes. Only funny jokes. Oh boy, the same guy who made the piracy issue with at least one subset of Asians and the other crack [to me] about moping floors (just because I was of Hispanic descent?) Cultural sensitivity? He's never heard of it apparently. PuertoLibre, putting somebody on ignore because you hate thier posts doesnt mean you should read them in peoples quotes anyways for the sake of being able to return to an argument. You're the crazy person that says: "hey steve, can you tell THAT MORON to pass the salt"
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January 11, 2013, 09:53:38 PM |
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All I can say is that this is Bitcoin. I don't believe it until I see six confirmations.
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January 11, 2013, 10:49:57 PM |
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Sorry to burst your bubble sparky, the only people who "laugh in my face" are idiots like you, creativex and the BFL clown posse who cry and whine because they don't get all sorts of nice proprietary information and I tell you what an idiot you are to your face, instead of kowtowing to your whiny, bitchy, petty little demands.
No, actually, I lol @ your face too. Yes, that's right, that's the sum total of your arsenal for why BFL is evil: We are late shipping and screwed up our power estimates on our first product a year and a half ago.
No, actually, the arsenal is this: 1. Your original CEO was a convicted felon on probation (he pleaded guilty). Being involved in BFL was in violation of the terms of his probation. Him not telling anyone about it was certainly shady. The crime for which he was convicted (upon pleading guilty) is sensibly the same thing you're doing now: taking people's money for vague promises you don't actually keep. 2. Upon the public discovering your CEO was a convicted felon, you tried to cover it up. 3. Upon the cover-up not working, the CEO/board was secretly shuffled, and then you & sockpuppet bunch tried to pretend 1 never actually happened. 4. Your original product was a fraud, in the sense it wasn't something you developed, it was a high end, end of life product you bought on the cheap and sanded off. This was eventually discovered and publicly documented, but mum's the word from your side. This leaving to the side the fact it was late and out of spec - maybe you got lucky at the last minute and otherwise your scam would have ended last year, who knows. 5. Your business model, whereby you take money from idiots and call their contribution "pre-orders" when it's really equity is also fraudulent, and if you ever end up in court this will likely blow the lot of you to jail. You're not allowed to take "pre-orders" for products that at that time do not exist. 6. You have consistently been proven wrong about pretty much any statement involving time you made. We're counting North of a dozen occurrences by now. 7. Your logo is lifted off the Internet. The company registration is either bought off a bankrupt company or else an outright sham - nobody knows at this point. You make false claims of experience based on this bought off/stolen registration.
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January 11, 2013, 11:40:40 PM |
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This is so true .... But believers will continue to evengalize every shit that flows from BFL. As I mentioned before BFLism or Asicism is kind of a religion at the moment..... Never ever raid doubts in that:( I'm glad I didn't order and I'll never will (even if that results in not mining anymore)!
As a warning:
DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES SEND THEM MORE FIAT, BTC OR YOUR FPGA....
Ps:yes I'm a troll!:)
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PuertoLibre
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January 11, 2013, 11:47:25 PM |
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The lovely anti-semite "joke" he tried to tell me at the end of our encounter was also classy. I don't know if he thought I was Jewish or what?
No, he thought you were dumb. Which you are. He in fact is Jewish. Hence he can't make anti-semite jokes. Only funny jokes. Oh boy, the same guy who made the piracy issue with at least one subset of Asians and the other crack [to me] about moping floors (just because I was of Hispanic descent?) Cultural sensitivity? He's never heard of it apparently. What? Being Spanish means you should mop floors? Wow PuertoLibre, I think every Spanish person on the forum should now hate you for that racist comment ... I am not the one who made it. Josh did. He knew I was hispanic long before these posts. Don't believe that BS or his lying nature. I seriously hope you folks are not that gullible.
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PuertoLibre
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January 11, 2013, 11:48:43 PM |
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The scenario continues as expected!
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January 11, 2013, 11:49:53 PM |
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I am pretty sure he just wrote something laced with stereotypes just above me. Glad I cannot see it anymore.
I'm not convinced that his original post was ever "laced with stereotypes". It seems more like seeing what you expect to see. Since you already judged him as evil long ago, if a post of his includes the word china, it must be racist, right?
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January 11, 2013, 11:51:53 PM |
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I am pretty sure he just wrote something laced with stereotypes just above me. Glad I cannot see it anymore.
I'm not convinced that his original post was ever "laced with stereotypes". It seems more like seeing what you expect to see. Since you already judged him as evil long ago, if a post of his includes the word china, it must be racist, right? You are a BFL apologist and practically the only one who did agree with him. Moving on beyond that, you'd changed your signature and profile since then. I don't need to say much more.
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January 11, 2013, 11:53:27 PM |
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No, actually, the arsenal is this:
Who cares? I want my 65nm ASICs now.
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January 11, 2013, 11:56:18 PM |
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I want my 65nm ASICs now.
me too.
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nathanrees19
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January 11, 2013, 11:57:50 PM |
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You are a BFL apologist and practically the only one who did agree with him.
Moving o beyond that, you'd changed your signature and profile since then. I don't need to say much more.
Why would an actual "BFL apologist" put in in their profile? Why would an actual troll put it in their sig? practically the only one who did agree with him.
There's a post right here in this thread pointing out that IP issues in China are real.
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PuertoLibre
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January 12, 2013, 12:02:38 AM |
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If Avalon ships on the 19th, they will ship before us. If they are delayed at all, probably not.
I have an update package for everyone that I'm collating and as soon as I get enough time to sit down and make a proper post. https://forums.butterflylabs.com/bfl-forum-miscellaneous/662-btc-avalon-race-glory-2.html#post9986Drama scenario: ✓ BFL is siting on customer money with delayed ASIC chips. Now on their third or fourth delay. ✓ BFL's competitor takes a tail spin and sells out...and can't refund orders fast enough. ✓ BFL's competitor locks down their forum. ✓ BFL begins to ask their own customers to reconsider refunding their orders in the wake of the panic of their competitor. Confidence is at an all time low. Come mid-January: ✓ BFL announces yet another delay. Promises starting the deliveries by the end of the month. ✗ BFL customers assume they are pulling a bASIC scene on them. ✗ BFL customers have the final straw and begin the next (and possibly final) wave of cancellations. ✗ Avalon ships on time. (The turtle has now beat the hare to the finish line) ✓ The BFL customer reps having nothing to say for themselves other than it will be out "soon". ✓ They try to charm their customers by posting useless developments that in the end don't mean anything. ✓ BFL customers ask for more than they paid, BFL refuses (already have multiple times). ✗ Bad sentiments grow as their own customers see others getting their orders and start hashing like crazy. ✗ The bad sentiments and anger grow as pictures of Avalon units are posted and the difficulty increases. ✗ The post-wave cancellations come and BFL probably will do the same as bASIC. The final straw that broke the camels back: ✗ Avalon opens the second batch now accepting orders by the thousands. Taking in both bASIC and BFL customers from either company.
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January 12, 2013, 12:16:22 AM |
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Drama scenario:
✓
could you stop crapping in the BFL thread when your avatar is an avalon logo and you have nothing to contribute other then smearing BFL to make avalon look better?
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January 12, 2013, 12:30:29 AM |
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Avalon MAY be first,no news of thier 14th of Jan shipping being on time,no mention of a delay either though. But,from MY veiwpoint,thier products power consumption is very high,at least for the longterm calculations I've done................. IF BFL's power #'s are correct (they have been wrong before) they'll be worth waiting for,again IMO,we have to wait & see Or I will at least Josh is supposed to have an "update" very soon............soooo
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"If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day long, you are the asshole." -Raylan Givens Got GOXXED ?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KiqRpPiJAU&feature=youtu.be"An ASIC being late is perfectly normal, predictable, and legal..."Hashfast & BFL slogan
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