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September 11, 2016, 02:56:02 PM
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What is causing the spike in price of ION ? but the volume is quite low



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September 11, 2016, 03:11:16 PM
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what about all those promises matlack & his team made for paycoin? they never materialized + theres a series of failed crypto attempts from them and their circle

Again nothing to do with ION

But lets drill into the detail what promises did Mattlack make show me what you have and lets have a debate. 

Before you share remember I'm a nice guy who just wants to build a puzzle  Smiley

Honestly though i agree yes xpy doesn't have anything to do with ion from the project point of view but don't you think progress made on xpy projects is indicitive of matlacks ability for any crypto project? A coat of paint or a new name doesn't make his ability any different and this is what i think people are saying. Whether its ion, xpy, <insert new coin name here> matlacks ability is still his ability. His progress on projects in the past is however an indication on his current project.

Thats the concern. The difference here is he now has $300k or so but there is no mention of how thats being used. The cash doesn't seem to have a direction only those ion as bounties. The warchest to quote garza should be used to make the project advance... money makes money. $300k can become a lot more if he were to use it and their reluctance to use said funds to me says they don't want that project advanced. In IT time is valuable and waiting for the when its done is often a detriment for progress as time moves fast.

I request you ask team ion direct where the funds are going the USD and why they haven't actually a plan for it thats public knowledge. Its a pretty big concern in my opinion.


Honestly though i agree yes xpy doesn't have anything to do with ion from the project point of view but don't you think progress made on xpy projects is indicitive of matlacks ability for any crypto project? A coat of paint or a new name doesn't make his ability any different and this is what i think people are saying. Whether its ion, xpy, <insert new coin name here> matlacks ability is still his ability. His progress on projects in the past is however an indication on his current project.


I honestly don't and it’s not a coat of paint

I cannot stress enough Garza is an unprincipled narcissist a very clever man who walked away with millions, this is no easy thing to do.
I think when KNC screwed him over that was when he began planning, many people don't give him enough credit and position him as a dumb ass which is so wrong....

Think about it. He goes from zero to a market cap higher than LTC, loads of hype, fly's to Florida for a big LTC face off it doesn't happen, again loads of hype. Back at the office orders are flowing in for haslets. He shows up and…..  fires his dev team Huh

I do not agree with your assumption

Thats the concern. The difference here is he now has $300k or so but there is no mention of how thats being used. The cash doesn't seem to have a direction only those ion as bounties. The warchest to quote garza should be used to make the project advance... money makes money. $300k can become a lot more if he were to use it and their reluctance to use said funds to me says they don't want that project advanced. In IT time is valuable and waiting for the when its done is often a detriment for progress as time moves fast.


This is something that would have to come directly from ION. I don’t need to know so I won’t ask as I’ve already ticked that box. Anyway even if I was able to pull that data that data would be tainted because I've provided it

As a whale I could answer but that would be pure speculation so not worth listening too.



You keep putting the whole thing on Garza's narcissism and cleverness while ignoring HOW he was able to screw so many people over. Now, you say you got out before the paycoin shenanigans really started, so this may be news to you, but I see similarities with the way GAW ran that lead to losses, and the way that ION is running that may lead to losses.

GAW refused to show proof on the blockchain that hashlets existed, this allowed them to take in more money than he should have. Similarly, team ION is not using the blockchain to show where all the funds that you guys gave them are, or what funds they contributed themselves, which makes it impossible to keep track of what is actually going on. Did they actually put any money in to get their ION, did they even turn in their XPY that was supposed to get burned (and still hasn't as far as i know)?

The other problem that lead to lots of losses as GAW went into paycoinland, is the insane number of coins that Garza got for nothing (from the premine and prime controllers) and the damage he did to the price dumping those coins. Do you know how many IONS the team has? what about the free coins that they get from stakers? Since the stakers are not coded into the coin like they were with paycoin, the only way stakers make sense is that when a customer "puts" 2000 coins in a staker, team ION puts those coins into one of their masternodes to generate more than the 15%apr. So more free coins for the team. And what exactly are they going to do with those coins? Do they need them to play the games they are making? Or are they just going to dump them onto others? You trust them not to dump those free coins onto your head, but why even get into a situation where they have the ability to amass so many free coins?

You never know someone's true intentions so it's impossible to be 100% sure you aren't going to get robbed, but you can reduce your odds of getting robbed by staying out of certain situations. This just has too many ways for it go wrong.
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September 11, 2016, 03:14:41 PM
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What is causing the spike in price of ION ? but the volume is quite low

Could you please provide a little data to support your question/statement? what do you define as "spike" or "quite low"?

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what about all those promises matlack & his team made for paycoin? they never materialized + theres a series of failed crypto attempts from them and their circle

Again nothing to do with ION

But lets drill into the detail what promises did Mattlack make show me what you have and lets have a debate. 

Before you share remember I'm a nice guy who just wants to build a puzzle  Smiley

Honestly though i agree yes xpy doesn't have anything to do with ion from the project point of view but don't you think progress made on xpy projects is indicitive of matlacks ability for any crypto project? A coat of paint or a new name doesn't make his ability any different and this is what i think people are saying. Whether its ion, xpy, <insert new coin name here> matlacks ability is still his ability. His progress on projects in the past is however an indication on his current project.

Thats the concern. The difference here is he now has $300k or so but there is no mention of how thats being used. The cash doesn't seem to have a direction only those ion as bounties. The warchest to quote garza should be used to make the project advance... money makes money. $300k can become a lot more if he were to use it and their reluctance to use said funds to me says they don't want that project advanced. In IT time is valuable and waiting for the when its done is often a detriment for progress as time moves fast.

I request you ask team ion direct where the funds are going the USD and why they haven't actually a plan for it thats public knowledge. Its a pretty big concern in my opinion.


Honestly though i agree yes xpy doesn't have anything to do with ion from the project point of view but don't you think progress made on xpy projects is indicitive of matlacks ability for any crypto project? A coat of paint or a new name doesn't make his ability any different and this is what i think people are saying. Whether its ion, xpy, <insert new coin name here> matlacks ability is still his ability. His progress on projects in the past is however an indication on his current project.


I honestly don't and it’s not a coat of paint

I cannot stress enough Garza is an unprincipled narcissist a very clever man who walked away with millions, this is no easy thing to do.
I think when KNC screwed him over that was when he began planning, many people don't give him enough credit and position him as a dumb ass which is so wrong....

Think about it. He goes from zero to a market cap higher than LTC, loads of hype, fly's to Florida for a big LTC face off it doesn't happen, again loads of hype. Back at the office orders are flowing in for haslets. He shows up and…..  fires his dev team Huh

I do not agree with your assumption

Thats the concern. The difference here is he now has $300k or so but there is no mention of how thats being used. The cash doesn't seem to have a direction only those ion as bounties. The warchest to quote garza should be used to make the project advance... money makes money. $300k can become a lot more if he were to use it and their reluctance to use said funds to me says they don't want that project advanced. In IT time is valuable and waiting for the when its done is often a detriment for progress as time moves fast.


This is something that would have to come directly from ION. I don’t need to know so I won’t ask as I’ve already ticked that box. Anyway even if I was able to pull that data that data would be tainted because I've provided it

As a whale I could answer but that would be pure speculation so not worth listening too.



You keep putting the whole thing on Garza's narcissism and cleverness while ignoring HOW he was able to screw so many people over. Now, you say you got out before the paycoin shenanigans really started, so this may be news to you, but I see similarities with the way GAW ran that lead to losses, and the way that ION is running that may lead to losses.

GAW refused to show proof on the blockchain that hashlets existed, this allowed them to take in more money than he should have. Similarly, team ION is not using the blockchain to show where all the funds that you guys gave them are, or what funds they contributed themselves, which makes it impossible to keep track of what is actually going on. Did they actually put any money in to get their ION, did they even turn in their XPY that was supposed to get burned (and still hasn't as far as i know)?

The other problem that lead to lots of losses as GAW went into paycoinland, is the insane number of coins that Garza got for nothing (from the premine and prime controllers) and the damage he did to the price dumping those coins. Do you know how many IONS the team has? what about the free coins that they get from stakers? Since the stakers are not coded into the coin like they were with paycoin, the only way stakers make sense is that when a customer "puts" 2000 coins in a staker, team ION puts those coins into one of their masternodes to generate more than the 15%apr. So more free coins for the team. And what exactly are they going to do with those coins? Do they need them to play the games they are making? Or are they just going to dump them onto others? You trust them not to dump those free coins onto your head, but why even get into a situation where they have the ability to amass so many free coins?

You never know someone's true intentions so it's impossible to be 100% sure you aren't going to get robbed, but you can reduce your odds of getting robbed by staying out of certain situations. This just has too many ways for it go wrong.

The other problem that lead to lots of losses as GAW went into paycoinland, is the insane number of coins that Garza got for nothing (from the premine and prime controllers) and the damage he did to the price dumping those coins.

The difference is thousands of dollars daily in the marketcap. $.16 to $20 dollars is a massive difference and no comparison. According to people here there is zero activity on the exchange? How are the team dumping and making any money? With that POS Garza it was painfully clear who was dumping coins.

You never know someone's true intentions so it's impossible to be 100% sure you aren't going to get robbed, but you can reduce your odds of getting robbed by staying out of certain situations. This just has too many ways for it go wrong.
Everybody differs in what risks they are willing to take in everything and thats fine that we all have different opinions on that. Should ion not be given a chance and be a scam because of it? Not at all.
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September 11, 2016, 04:25:12 PM
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what about all those promises matlack & his team made for paycoin? they never materialized + theres a series of failed crypto attempts from them and their circle

Again nothing to do with ION

But lets drill into the detail what promises did Mattlack make show me what you have and lets have a debate. 

Before you share remember I'm a nice guy who just wants to build a puzzle  Smiley

Honestly though i agree yes xpy doesn't have anything to do with ion from the project point of view but don't you think progress made on xpy projects is indicitive of matlacks ability for any crypto project? A coat of paint or a new name doesn't make his ability any different and this is what i think people are saying. Whether its ion, xpy, <insert new coin name here> matlacks ability is still his ability. His progress on projects in the past is however an indication on his current project.

Thats the concern. The difference here is he now has $300k or so but there is no mention of how thats being used. The cash doesn't seem to have a direction only those ion as bounties. The warchest to quote garza should be used to make the project advance... money makes money. $300k can become a lot more if he were to use it and their reluctance to use said funds to me says they don't want that project advanced. In IT time is valuable and waiting for the when its done is often a detriment for progress as time moves fast.

I request you ask team ion direct where the funds are going the USD and why they haven't actually a plan for it thats public knowledge. Its a pretty big concern in my opinion.


Honestly though i agree yes xpy doesn't have anything to do with ion from the project point of view but don't you think progress made on xpy projects is indicitive of matlacks ability for any crypto project? A coat of paint or a new name doesn't make his ability any different and this is what i think people are saying. Whether its ion, xpy, <insert new coin name here> matlacks ability is still his ability. His progress on projects in the past is however an indication on his current project.


I honestly don't and it’s not a coat of paint

I cannot stress enough Garza is an unprincipled narcissist a very clever man who walked away with millions, this is no easy thing to do.
I think when KNC screwed him over that was when he began planning, many people don't give him enough credit and position him as a dumb ass which is so wrong....

Think about it. He goes from zero to a market cap higher than LTC, loads of hype, fly's to Florida for a big LTC face off it doesn't happen, again loads of hype. Back at the office orders are flowing in for haslets. He shows up and…..  fires his dev team Huh

I do not agree with your assumption

Thats the concern. The difference here is he now has $300k or so but there is no mention of how thats being used. The cash doesn't seem to have a direction only those ion as bounties. The warchest to quote garza should be used to make the project advance... money makes money. $300k can become a lot more if he were to use it and their reluctance to use said funds to me says they don't want that project advanced. In IT time is valuable and waiting for the when its done is often a detriment for progress as time moves fast.


This is something that would have to come directly from ION. I don’t need to know so I won’t ask as I’ve already ticked that box. Anyway even if I was able to pull that data that data would be tainted because I've provided it

As a whale I could answer but that would be pure speculation so not worth listening too.



You keep putting the whole thing on Garza's narcissism and cleverness while ignoring HOW he was able to screw so many people over. Now, you say you got out before the paycoin shenanigans really started, so this may be news to you, but I see similarities with the way GAW ran that lead to losses, and the way that ION is running that may lead to losses.

GAW refused to show proof on the blockchain that hashlets existed, this allowed them to take in more money than he should have. Similarly, team ION is not using the blockchain to show where all the funds that you guys gave them are, or what funds they contributed themselves, which makes it impossible to keep track of what is actually going on. Did they actually put any money in to get their ION, did they even turn in their XPY that was supposed to get burned (and still hasn't as far as i know)?

The other problem that lead to lots of losses as GAW went into paycoinland, is the insane number of coins that Garza got for nothing (from the premine and prime controllers) and the damage he did to the price dumping those coins. Do you know how many IONS the team has? what about the free coins that they get from stakers? Since the stakers are not coded into the coin like they were with paycoin, the only way stakers make sense is that when a customer "puts" 2000 coins in a staker, team ION puts those coins into one of their masternodes to generate more than the 15%apr. So more free coins for the team. And what exactly are they going to do with those coins? Do they need them to play the games they are making? Or are they just going to dump them onto others? You trust them not to dump those free coins onto your head, but why even get into a situation where they have the ability to amass so many free coins?

You never know someone's true intentions so it's impossible to be 100% sure you aren't going to get robbed, but you can reduce your odds of getting robbed by staying out of certain situations. This just has too many ways for it go wrong.

What you see as a negative I see as a positive.

If they were part of a group defending Garza I would agree,

If there they were part of a group that started this process but made no head way I would agree.

But if what eyeballer says is true and this is now in the hands of the lawyers this is great news!! right

It means the engine has kicked in so irrelevant of money a chance exists he could go to jail being denied all the materialistic shit he loves  and then given an opportunity to be able to find new sensual ways for him to express his love for humanity… priceless

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/3hg5m8/sec_vs_carlos_slimy_brother_of_josh_garza_the/

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September 11, 2016, 04:37:06 PM
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What is causing the spike in price of ION ? but the volume is quite low

As a whale living in Ionomy things are starting to happen people are getting excited and the little volume available on YoBit is being snapped up, think of it as a pulse.

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The other problem that lead to lots of losses as GAW went into paycoinland, is the insane number of coins that Garza got for nothing (from the premine and prime controllers) and the damage he did to the price dumping those coins.

The difference is thousands of dollars daily in the marketcap. $.16 to $20 dollars is a massive difference and no comparison. According to people here there is zero activity on the exchange? How are the team dumping and making any money? With that POS Garza it was painfully clear who was dumping coins.

You never know someone's true intentions so it's impossible to be 100% sure you aren't going to get robbed, but you can reduce your odds of getting robbed by staying out of certain situations. This just has too many ways for it go wrong.
Everybody differs in what risks they are willing to take in everything and thats fine that we all have different opinions on that. Should ion not be given a chance and be a scam because of it? Not at all.

They are not dumping at the moment, but the fact that they can would scare the shit out of me. remember the damage done instant that Garza dumped a zillion coins in order to get the actual usable money to make the 3 purchases that were made in coinstand beta? That was possible because no one cared that he had a zillion coins that he paid nothing for. I don't know what will happen (if anything) to cause team ION to do something like that, but that doesn't change the fact that they have the possibility to do that. The stakers give them literally free ions. What are they going to do with them? Why do they need them? How do they benefit you?
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The other problem that lead to lots of losses as GAW went into paycoinland, is the insane number of coins that Garza got for nothing (from the premine and prime controllers) and the damage he did to the price dumping those coins.

The difference is thousands of dollars daily in the marketcap. $.16 to $20 dollars is a massive difference and no comparison. According to people here there is zero activity on the exchange? How are the team dumping and making any money? With that POS Garza it was painfully clear who was dumping coins.

You never know someone's true intentions so it's impossible to be 100% sure you aren't going to get robbed, but you can reduce your odds of getting robbed by staying out of certain situations. This just has too many ways for it go wrong.
Everybody differs in what risks they are willing to take in everything and thats fine that we all have different opinions on that. Should ion not be given a chance and be a scam because of it? Not at all.

They are not dumping at the moment, but the fact that they can would scare the shit out of me. remember the damage done instant that Garza dumped a zillion coins in order to get the actual usable money to make the 3 purchases that were made in coinstand beta? That was possible because no one cared that he had a zillion coins that he paid nothing for. I don't know what will happen (if anything) to cause team ION to do something like that, but that doesn't change the fact that they have the possibility to do that. The stakers give them literally free ions. What are they going to do with them? Why do they need them? How do they benefit you?

Wait for the Gravity beta launch?? From what I know we’ll have a good datapoint to better eval this red flag until we play and see it's just more speculation

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Wait for the Gravity beta launch?? From what I know we’ll have a good datapoint to better eval this red flag until we play and see it's just more speculation


Missing their self imposed deadline by months while also promising a game EVERY FUCKING MONTH isnt a red flag to you?

Seriously they claimed they could pump out a new game every month yet months later they dont even have the first game out.

Not to mention what little info we have on the game appears to suggest it may be competitive with the sort of game released 20 years ago.  I mean it looks like Prince of Persia crossed with Donkey Kong...

Seriously we see better looking games by single dev teams on the play store every day available for free....

You expect such games to make you a fortune just for owning ION?
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September 11, 2016, 08:13:22 PM
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Wait for the Gravity beta launch?? From what I know we’ll have a good datapoint to better eval this red flag until we play and see it's just more speculation


Missing their self imposed deadline by months while also promising a game EVERY FUCKING MONTH isnt a red flag to you?

Seriously they claimed they could pump out a new game every month yet months later they dont even have the first game out.

Not to mention what little info we have on the game appears to suggest it may be competitive with the sort of game released 20 years ago.  I mean it looks like Prince of Persia crossed with Donkey Kong...

Seriously we see better looking games by single dev teams on the play store every day available for free....

You expect such games to make you a fortune just for owning ION?

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September 11, 2016, 09:37:44 PM
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Project Still Alive ? Nice
thought it'll be abandoned by now.

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September 11, 2016, 10:34:16 PM
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Wait for the Gravity beta launch?? From what I know we’ll have a good datapoint to better eval this red flag until we play and see it's just more speculation


Missing their self imposed deadline by months while also promising a game EVERY FUCKING MONTH isnt a red flag to you?

Seriously they claimed they could pump out a new game every month yet months later they dont even have the first game out.

Not to mention what little info we have on the game appears to suggest it may be competitive with the sort of game released 20 years ago.  I mean it looks like Prince of Persia crossed with Donkey Kong...

Seriously we see better looking games by single dev teams on the play store every day available for free....

You expect such games to make you a fortune just for owning ION?

Missing their self imposed deadline by months while also promising a game EVERY FUCKING MONTH isnt a red flag to you?

True & No.

They told everyone in July Gravity was going to be late and they gave reasons, checkout the site.

This is crypto the land of hacks,cheats and liars I don't see they had a choice.

Seriously they claimed they could pump out a new game every month yet months later they dont even have the first game out.


They said first launch Gravity then more games would follow on a monthly schedule.

Not to mention what little info we have on the game appears to suggest it may be competitive with the sort of game released 20 years ago.  I mean it looks like Prince of Persia crossed with Donkey Kong...


When was the last time you bought a game based on a screen shot the 1990's

Seriously we see better looking games by single dev teams on the play store every day available for free....


Give me an example now and then when Gravity ships we compare   

You expect such games to make you a fortune just for owning ION?

Not a game Ionomy


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September 12, 2016, 02:30:31 AM
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Wait for the Gravity beta launch?? From what I know we’ll have a good datapoint to better eval this red flag until we play and see it's just more speculation


Missing their self imposed deadline by months while also promising a game EVERY FUCKING MONTH isnt a red flag to you?

Seriously they claimed they could pump out a new game every month yet months later they dont even have the first game out.

Not to mention what little info we have on the game appears to suggest it may be competitive with the sort of game released 20 years ago.  I mean it looks like Prince of Persia crossed with Donkey Kong...

Seriously we see better looking games by single dev teams on the play store every day available for free....

You expect such games to make you a fortune just for owning ION?

Missing their self imposed deadline by months while also promising a game EVERY FUCKING MONTH isnt a red flag to you?

True & No.

They told everyone in July Gravity was going to be late and they gave reasons, checkout the site.

This is crypto the land of hacks,cheats and liars I don't see they had a choice.

Seriously they claimed they could pump out a new game every month yet months later they dont even have the first game out.


They said first launch Gravity then more games would follow on a monthly schedule.

Not to mention what little info we have on the game appears to suggest it may be competitive with the sort of game released 20 years ago.  I mean it looks like Prince of Persia crossed with Donkey Kong...


When was the last time you bought a game based on a screen shot the 1990's

Seriously we see better looking games by single dev teams on the play store every day available for free....


Give me an example now and then when Gravity ships we compare  

You expect such games to make you a fortune just for owning ION?

Not a game Ionomy



Thanks for the tiny bit of summary. needed that.  Cool But as of now i will continue to stay cautious and continue watching this space.

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September 12, 2016, 12:00:03 PM
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what about all those promises matlack & his team made for paycoin? they never materialized + theres a series of failed crypto attempts from them and their circle

Again nothing to do with ION

But lets drill into the detail what promises did Mattlack make show me what you have and lets have a debate. 

Before you share remember I'm a nice guy who just wants to build a puzzle  Smiley

Honestly though i agree yes xpy doesn't have anything to do with ion from the project point of view but don't you think progress made on xpy projects is indicitive of matlacks ability for any crypto project? A coat of paint or a new name doesn't make his ability any different and this is what i think people are saying. Whether its ion, xpy, <insert new coin name here> matlacks ability is still his ability. His progress on projects in the past is however an indication on his current project.

Thats the concern. The difference here is he now has $300k or so but there is no mention of how thats being used. The cash doesn't seem to have a direction only those ion as bounties. The warchest to quote garza should be used to make the project advance... money makes money. $300k can become a lot more if he were to use it and their reluctance to use said funds to me says they don't want that project advanced. In IT time is valuable and waiting for the when its done is often a detriment for progress as time moves fast.

I request you ask team ion direct where the funds are going the USD and why they haven't actually a plan for it thats public knowledge. Its a pretty big concern in my opinion.


Honestly though i agree yes xpy doesn't have anything to do with ion from the project point of view but don't you think progress made on xpy projects is indicitive of matlacks ability for any crypto project? A coat of paint or a new name doesn't make his ability any different and this is what i think people are saying. Whether its ion, xpy, <insert new coin name here> matlacks ability is still his ability. His progress on projects in the past is however an indication on his current project.


I honestly don't and it’s not a coat of paint

I cannot stress enough Garza is an unprincipled narcissist a very clever man who walked away with millions, this is no easy thing to do.
I think when KNC screwed him over that was when he began planning, many people don't give him enough credit and position him as a dumb ass which is so wrong....

Think about it. He goes from zero to a market cap higher than LTC, loads of hype, fly's to Florida for a big LTC face off it doesn't happen, again loads of hype. Back at the office orders are flowing in for haslets. He shows up and…..  fires his dev team Huh

I do not agree with your assumption

Thats the concern. The difference here is he now has $300k or so but there is no mention of how thats being used. The cash doesn't seem to have a direction only those ion as bounties. The warchest to quote garza should be used to make the project advance... money makes money. $300k can become a lot more if he were to use it and their reluctance to use said funds to me says they don't want that project advanced. In IT time is valuable and waiting for the when its done is often a detriment for progress as time moves fast.


This is something that would have to come directly from ION. I don’t need to know so I won’t ask as I’ve already ticked that box. Anyway even if I was able to pull that data that data would be tainted because I've provided it

As a whale I could answer but that would be pure speculation so not worth listening too.



You keep putting the whole thing on Garza's narcissism and cleverness while ignoring HOW he was able to screw so many people over. Now, you say you got out before the paycoin shenanigans really started, so this may be news to you, but I see similarities with the way GAW ran that lead to losses, and the way that ION is running that may lead to losses.

GAW refused to show proof on the blockchain that hashlets existed, this allowed them to take in more money than he should have. Similarly, team ION is not using the blockchain to show where all the funds that you guys gave them are, or what funds they contributed themselves, which makes it impossible to keep track of what is actually going on. Did they actually put any money in to get their ION, did they even turn in their XPY that was supposed to get burned (and still hasn't as far as i know)?

The other problem that lead to lots of losses as GAW went into paycoinland, is the insane number of coins that Garza got for nothing (from the premine and prime controllers) and the damage he did to the price dumping those coins. Do you know how many IONS the team has? what about the free coins that they get from stakers? Since the stakers are not coded into the coin like they were with paycoin, the only way stakers make sense is that when a customer "puts" 2000 coins in a staker, team ION puts those coins into one of their masternodes to generate more than the 15%apr. So more free coins for the team. And what exactly are they going to do with those coins? Do they need them to play the games they are making? Or are they just going to dump them onto others? You trust them not to dump those free coins onto your head, but why even get into a situation where they have the ability to amass so many free coins?

You never know someone's true intentions so it's impossible to be 100% sure you aren't going to get robbed, but you can reduce your odds of getting robbed by staying out of certain situations. This just has too many ways for it go wrong.

For me this is getting deep so I'll try on stay on track....

You keep putting the whole thing on Garza's narcissism and cleverness while ignoring HOW he was able to screw so many people over. Now, you say you got out before the paycoin shenanigans really started, so this may be news to you, but I see similarities with the way GAW ran that lead to losses, and the way that ION is running that may lead to losses.

Cause and effect. His narcissism caused this, his behavior shaped the environment. Everything was just a means to and end FACT

Machine & systems don't steal FACT, they break they change they evolve again this cycle is driven by people FACT.

I didn't get out of the paycoin shenanigans quite the opposite I just reduced my exposure. As a lurker I lived through everything warts and all  

GAW refused to show proof on the blockchain that hashlets existed, this allowed them to take in more money than he should have. Similarly, team ION is not using the blockchain to show where all the funds that you guys gave them are, or what funds they contributed themselves, which makes it impossible to keep track of what is actually going on. Did they actually put any money in to get their ION, did they even turn in their XPY that was supposed to get burned (and still hasn't as far as i know)?

GAW didn’t take they STOLE. ION are not GAW, ION are a million miles away from GAW

I don't care about XPY & I don't want to see ION waste a single second on XPY and I don't care where his war chest is. Does that make me reckless NO
 
If Mattlack shows proof that he's burnt his XPY and detailed where every cent of non blockchain  money is so what.Imagine he were like Garza I would have is a nice data point and he would have a useful tool.

 
Playing the supposition game IMAGINE. He hypes up Ionomy, rushes to launch a shallow Gravity. Everything is great

BUT

People start to reach a certain level and start to complain because last level’s were the same as the previous even though the spaceman is now a demigod.

People would start moaning and he would come up with lots of excuses.

Many more people though would start playing as word spreads and the games plays quite well showing lots of potential any anyway not everyone plays 24/7


DON'T WORRY


My favorite friend you rich early adopters. Son of Gravity is going to launch fix everything add more stuff and btw is going to be free

OH SHIT

We’ve lost everything someone has hacked into our API and taken the lot

DON'T WORRY


Military grade security experts have tracked the hack... oh dear.... it was MR.Robot's evil brother that took all the ION

GONE ALL GONE

For this scenario to happen the first step needs to happen. Will it happen NO

You never know someone's true intentions so it's impossible to be 100% sure you aren't going to get robbed, but you can reduce your odds of getting robbed by staying out of certain situations. This just has too many ways for it go wrong.


Agree but for me just using numbers for due diligence is not wrong it's just not enough.  








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https://news.ionomy.com/just-to-be-clear/
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September 12, 2016, 12:22:16 PM
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they collected millions and millions of paycoins and didnt burn the promised amount. matlack even admitted it - fact
if that is not a huge red flag for you... i dont know what is

another fully centralized and majority premined 'coin'... 10 of these pop daily to rob people with crappy promises
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September 12, 2016, 12:34:11 PM
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they collected millions and millions of paycoins and didnt burn the promised amount. matlack even admitted it - fact
if that is not a huge red flag for you... i dont know what is

another fully centralized and majority premined 'coin'... 10 of these pop daily to rob people with crappy promises

My red flag is step 1 in the scenario I've just posted Smiley the one you probably just read


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https://news.ionomy.com/just-to-be-clear/
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September 12, 2016, 12:37:40 PM
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Agree but for me just using numbers for due diligence is not wrong it's just not enough.  

You keep repeating "due diligence" and how what people are suggesting here is not good enough or not relevant, but what HAVE you actually done towards due diligence? Can you just lay out the bullet points for everyone to see?

So for example you stayed with Paycoin and xpy.io and just recently you asked here what were the promises that the "team" made with regards to XPY. Isn't that something you should be able to tell us?

Anyway, I was going to make a different point, which is the ionomy API, just the "due diligence" thing sticks out every time I read it in one of your posts.



So the API. The main reason for the game to be delayed for three months. Because the API integration needs to be secure etc. I think I even remember the DAO debacle being brought up as a scarecrow for what happens when APIs are not secure, although that has nothing to do with anything... but I digress. The API integration in Gravity is at 80%. Presumably that means the API has now existed for a while, at least I haven't seen anything being mentioned about the API itself still needing development. Is that the case? Does the API exist? Is there a spec for it? A test endpoint? Wouldn't the community have interest in providing feedback on the API because that seems to be the main thing that will generate revenue for ionomy, right?

The other somewhat related thought is that I can't remember any job I worked at or any job that anyone did for me where the following wouldn't result in someone being fired:

1) Someone is working on a 1-month project with a deadline of mid-June
2) mid-June comes and goes without so much as a squeak - this is where firing usually happens
3) Sometime in July the "someone" says "security, boo, scary, more months needed" - this is where firing definitely happens if it didn't happen above
4) Sometime in September people are still totally cool with "someone" still working on the project and no substantial updates on the status - yeah, I know, most IT projects miss their deadlines by miles, but we're talking about a "game every month" thing here and not Duke Nukem or an ERP system for a Fortune 500 company. Seriously.

Now I really wanna see that monstrous API that needs so much "integration".

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Agree but for me just using numbers for due diligence is not wrong it's just not enough.  

You keep repeating "due diligence" and how what people are suggesting here is not good enough or not relevant, but what HAVE you actually done towards due diligence? Can you just lay out the bullet points for everyone to see?

So for example you stayed with Paycoin and xpy.io and just recently you asked here what were the promises that the "team" made with regards to XPY. Isn't that something you should be able to tell us?

Anyway, I was going to make a different point, which is the ionomy API, just the "due diligence" thing sticks out every time I read it in one of your posts.



So the API. The main reason for the game to be delayed for three months. Because the API integration needs to be secure etc. I think I even remember the DAO debacle being brought up as a scarecrow for what happens when APIs are not secure, although that has nothing to do with anything... but I digress. The API integration in Gravity is at 80%. Presumably that means the API has now existed for a while, at least I haven't seen anything being mentioned about the API itself still needing development. Is that the case? Does the API exist? Is there a spec for it? A test endpoint? Wouldn't the community have interest in providing feedback on the API because that seems to be the main thing that will generate revenue for ionomy, right?

The other somewhat related thought is that I can't remember any job I worked at or any job that anyone did for me where the following wouldn't result in someone being fired:

1) Someone is working on a 1-month project with a deadline of mid-June
2) mid-June comes and goes without so much as a squeak - this is where firing usually happens
3) Sometime in July the "someone" says "security, boo, scary, more months needed" - this is where firing definitely happens if it didn't happen above
4) Sometime in September people are still totally cool with "someone" still working on the project and no substantial updates on the status - yeah, I know, most IT projects miss their deadlines by miles, but we're talking about a "game every month" thing here and not Duke Nukem or an ERP system for a Fortune 500 company. Seriously.

Now I really wanna see that monstrous API that needs so much "integration".

You keep repeating "due diligence" and how what people are suggesting here is not good enough or not relevant, but what HAVE you actually done towards due diligence? Can you just lay out the bullet points for everyone to see?

No

So for example you stayed with Paycoin and xpy.io and just recently you asked here what were the promises that the "team" made with regards to XPY. Isn't that something you should be able to tell us?

I don't understand your point, you need to give me some more context so I can  

Anyway, I was going to make a different point, which is the ionomy API, just the "due diligence" thing sticks out every time I read it in one of your posts.


This post looks like it's been doctored as it uses words and phrases that aren't in my vocabulary.... I never use the word digress sometimes digest but never digress so can't really comment










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https://ionomy.com/en/aff/46cbe5fa1d262e23665191a7c7864072


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https://news.ionomy.com/just-to-be-clear/
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September 12, 2016, 02:57:59 PM
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You keep repeating "due diligence" and how what people are suggesting here is not good enough or not relevant, but what HAVE you actually done towards due diligence? Can you just lay out the bullet points for everyone to see?

No

"No" meaning you haven't done any due dilligence, or "no" meaning you can't tell us? Why?

So for example you stayed with Paycoin and xpy.io and just recently you asked here what were the promises that the "team" made with regards to XPY. Isn't that something you should be able to tell us?

I don't understand your point, you need to give me some more context so I can  

You stayed with Paycoin all the way:

I didn't get out of the paycoin shenanigans quite the opposite I just reduced my exposure. As a lurker I lived through everything warts and all  
I've been with XPY.io since the start as loyal customer hence the whales status.

So why wouldn't you already know what promises were made:

what about all those promises matlack & his team made for paycoin? they never materialized + theres a series of failed crypto attempts from them and their circle

Again nothing to do with ION

But lets drill into the detail what promises did Mattlack make show me what you have and lets have a debate.  

Before you share remember I'm a nice guy who just wants to build a puzzle  Smiley

And I have absolutely no clue what you're saying below, what has been "doctored"?


Anyway, I was going to make a different point, which is the ionomy API, just the "due diligence" thing sticks out every time I read it in one of your posts.


This post looks like it's been doctored as it uses words and phrases that aren't in my vocabulary.... I never use the word digress sometimes digest but never digress so can't really comment

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 #3420

What is causing the spike in price of ION ? but the volume is quite low

Could you please provide a little data to support your question/statement? what do you define as "spike" or "quite low"?

Here is the data I think you were referring to:


Looks like the spike drove the price of ION to 30 cents...

As a whale living in Ionomy things are starting to happen people are getting excited and the little volume available on YoBit is being snapped up, think of it as a pulse.

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