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[clownius]

Thank you suchmoon, that's the nicest thing your have said about my ION promotional campaign effort!

That's true, I'm so nice, invest with confidence.

Nice be damned just call it what it is shameless shilling and attempting to find people to hold his bags as he dumps them

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[o0o0]

Why would the "other stuff" need to be offchain?

I dunno the US legal priorities but in Europe I dont think anyone cares if the ingame purchased tokens are backed by a blockchain or not. Tokens are just tokens. It's important too have this clear before releasing anything ofcourse. I dont know the current state.

Got the feeling Ive been speculating too much, let me remind it is just my idea of how thing could work.

Also Ionomy is not the only crypto project that's monetizing ingame tokens backed by crypto blockchain.

The blockchain itself is not so much the issue, except they're not really using it for anything. I don't know if it needs to be off-chain, just stating the fact that it IS almost entirely off-chain - ionomy, electrons, etc - nothing to do with the blockchain AFAICT.

Fair point. It is an ultimate goal to move everything to the blockchain, but because of too little resources (for example time or devs) current version is not. This way the concept can move forward in the interest of endusers.

Blockchain and decentralisation would add a lot of awesomeness and trust to that, i agree.

The point is, they collected funds (converted into USD apparently), they call the bagholders "investors", they encourage to keep the funds on their website, they solicit (or at least their surrogates do) investments promising "profits", and they expect to make it big. Something's gotta give. They will have to start KYC-ing the bagholders and filing paperwork with the SEC, or they will have to cut the "investment" part off completely and become just a points/rewards system of some sort. Or stay irrelevant forever, I guess that's always an option.

I never heard someone from team ion promising profitability, especially not in short term. Ofcourse everybody wishes so. Thing I did hear directly is that they want to be around longterm (vs rushing, hyping and pumping).

I would say that complying with the rules would be preferrable. I know the team is keen on rules at least in the area where the company is based. I know too little to discuss on it. Hopefully others can as it is a very relevant subject to the project indeed, and to all crypto. I think you should take into account how other succesfull projects handled this.

Don't they have a bunch of ico money they can use to pay to have the vision come to life or is the collected ico a pension fund for them to slowly draw from as a weekly wage?

[owlcatz]

Don't they have a bunch of ico money they can use to pay to have the vision come to life or is the collected ico a pension fund for them to slowly draw from as a weekly wage?

Yes, and this is what we have all been demanding transparency about. Where is the address? Where did the coins go? How many were raised? Show the proof wildshark, not your stupid ion blockchain genesis block. 

This coin/project is nothing but a scam to rob people of their BTC so former XPY morons can feel whole again, that part is 100% clear at this point, at least to me, as I've just seen this over and over now. 

Wildshark - Post the ICO BTC addresses, please, or just shut your "shilling campaign" down here, because you are clearly failing 100%.

Thanks

[rdewilde]

I never heard someone from team ion promising profitability, especially not in short term. Ofcourse everybody wishes so. Thing I did hear directly is that they want to be longterm (vs rushing, hyping and pumping).

I would say that complying with the rules would be preferrable. I know the team is keen on rules at least in the area where the company is based. I know too little to discuss on it. Hopefully others can as it is a very relevant subject to the project indeed, and to all crypto. I think you should take into account how other succesfull projects handled this

I was referring to WildShark, who is obviously a clown but sadly at the same time the most vocal ionomy representative here and is pumping like there is no tomorrow.

I don't think being registered offshore is a legitimate way to bypass AML or securities laws. Long story short, in the US you can offer securities only to "accredited investors" (if you remember Garza's e-mails he was desperately trying to become one but didn't meet the assets/income requirements) or you have to go through a shitload of disclosures if you want to offer it to the general public. And AML requirements are a whole new can of worms.

As for other projects, I would guess that they fall into three major categories - carefully avoid any contact with fiat and don't mention "investment" anywhere; naively try to comply with all rules and get buried in paperwork; or just wing it and hope for the best. We all know how that last one works out :-)

I think I need to mention that I'm not a lawyer even if I may seem to be playing one on the intertubes.

Would be great to have an entity that is legally authorized to process the transaction without every game dev having to go thru that process and do all the same validations on their customers.....

[WildShark]

Thank you suchmoon, that's the nicest thing your have said about my ION promotional campaign effort!

That's true, I'm so nice, invest with confidence.

My ION promotional campaign effort here at Bitcoin Talk is in full swing. I now have the Bitcoin Talk gang shilling for ION and keeping the thread at the top of queue with them asking me to provide more ICO information from the ION, Bitcoin or Dollar addresses!!! I have promised many times that when the ICO data is released by the Ionomy Team, I have/would make it available here on Bitcoin Talk.

Wildshark - Post the ICO BTC addresses, please

In the meantime be a smart investor and do your homework, please inquire/ask your ICO, ION or Gaming questions on Ionomy Slack where the Ionomy community can assist with your ION investment questions. POS is the wave of the future...

True. If you really want answers, ask directly on slack and you'll probably will succeed

Join/visit the Ionomy today @ https://ionomy.slack.com/messages/general/details/

[clownius]

So Sharkie your recommending people ask questions on the ION slack that appears to have been chosen specifically so that data is not retained for any meaningful length of time because your scam shitcoin team doesnt want a repeat of what happened to GAW when their own words were used to prove the fraud?

[CryptoBuds]

Thank you suchmoon, that's the nicest thing your have said about my ION promotional campaign effort!

That's true, I'm so nice, invest with confidence.

My ION promotional campaign effort here at Bitcoin Talk is in full swing. I now have the Bitcoin Talk gang shilling for ION and keeping the thread at the top of queue with them asking me to provide more ICO information from the ION, Bitcoin or Dollar addresses!!! I have promised many times that when the ICO data is released by the Ionomy Team, I have/would make it available here on Bitcoin Talk.

Wildshark - Post the ICO BTC addresses, please

In the meantime be a smart investor and do your homework, please inquire/ask your ICO, ION or Gaming questions on Ionomy Slack where the Ionomy community can assist with your ION investment questions. POS is the wave of the future...

True. If you really want answers, ask directly on slack and you'll probably will succeed

Join/visit the Ionomy today @ https://ionomy.slack.com/messages/general/details/

No need. You personally guaranteed profit.

[CryptoBuds]

So Sharkie your recommending people ask questions on the ION slack that appears to have been chosen specifically so that data is not retained for any meaningful length of time because your scam shitcoin team doesnt want a repeat of what happened to GAW when their own words were used to prove the fraud?

And then the regulars on Slack piss and moan when the same questions are asked over and over again. Quite a comical situation. Just as funny as them demanding proof of my MN, yet they won't release any information.

[suchmoon]

Don't they have a bunch of ico money they can use to pay to have the vision come to life or is the collected ico a pension fund for them to slowly draw from as a weekly wage?

Yes, and this is what we have all been demanding transparency about. Where is the address? Where did the coins go? How many were raised? Show the proof wildshark, not your stupid ion blockchain genesis block. 

This coin/project is nothing but a scam to rob people of their BTC so former XPY morons can feel whole again, that part is 100% clear at this point, at least to me, as I've just seen this over and over now. 

Wildshark - Post the ICO BTC addresses, please, or just shut your "shilling campaign" down here, because you are clearly failing 100%.

Thanks

According to sharkie the ICO BTC has been converted to USD so there is no address to post. Quite convenient when you think of it. The best of two worlds, crypto and fiat - irreversible transactions and no public ledger.

[CryptoBuds]

Don't they have a bunch of ico money they can use to pay to have the vision come to life or is the collected ico a pension fund for them to slowly draw from as a weekly wage?

Yes, and this is what we have all been demanding transparency about. Where is the address? Where did the coins go? How many were raised? Show the proof wildshark, not your stupid ion blockchain genesis block. 

This coin/project is nothing but a scam to rob people of their BTC so former XPY morons can feel whole again, that part is 100% clear at this point, at least to me, as I've just seen this over and over now. 

Wildshark - Post the ICO BTC addresses, please, or just shut your "shilling campaign" down here, because you are clearly failing 100%.

Thanks

According to sharkie the ICO BTC has been converted to USD so there is no address to post. Quite convenient when you think of it. The best of two worlds, crypto and fiat - irreversible transactions and no public ledger.

If only Garza would have thought of this trick.

[CryptoBuds]

WildShark, you keep ignoring this question that I have asked you at least 3 times:

How did you "ear " the whale status when everyone else "paid" to be a whale?

[WildShark]

Thank you suchmoon, that's the nicest thing your have said about my ION promotional campaign effort!

That's true, I'm so nice, invest with confidence.

My ION promotional campaign effort here at Bitcoin Talk is in full swing. I now have the Bitcoin Talk gang shilling for ION and keeping the thread at the top of queue with them asking me to provide more ICO information from the ION, Bitcoin or Dollar addresses!!! I have promised many times that when the ICO data is released by the Ionomy Team, I have/would make it available here on Bitcoin Talk.

Wildshark - Post the ICO BTC addresses, please

In the meantime be a smart investor and do your homework, please inquire/ask your ICO, ION or Gaming questions on Ionomy Slack where the Ionomy community can assist with your ION investment questions. POS is the wave of the future...

True. If you really want answers, ask directly on slack and you'll probably will succeed

Join/visit the Ionomy today @ https://ionomy.slack.com/messages/general/details/

No need. You personally guaranteed profit.

Do your homework and you will make a profit...

According to sharkie the ICO BTC has been converted to USD so there is no address to post.

I provided the address for the funds of the Bitcoin that was converted to dollars... Not all the IOC funds in Bitcoin were converted

[WildShark]

WildShark, you keep ignoring this question that I have asked you at least 3 times:

How did you "ear " the whale status when everyone else "paid" to be a whale?

Here's the text and version for "earned"

First off you are incapable of forming and writing your own thoughts. You just manipulate someone else's post

It is easier to correct your post with the right information to get my view/comment on the many topics you ask me to answer


Here is a good example of topic you want to discuss:

<CyptoBuds shilling for ION>

Ladies and gentleman, here we have the face of ION ^^^^^^^

This person paid to have influence on the platform and also get information sooner than other investors. (He refuses to acknowledge its insider information, that is why I worded it so.) he wants you to invest so you buy the IONs he is dumping so he can get whole from his XPY loses.

Beware of individuals such as this when investing in a platform. Not everyone has good intentions and sharky is a greedy one. If you buy IONs, you are just giving you're BTC to this individual. Please research before making and investment decision and never listen to individuals such as WildShark.

Im not saying don't buy ION, I'm just saying to do you own research and beware of individuals such as this.

<Sharky promoting ION with added details>
Ladies and gentleman, here we have the face a non-paid promoter of ION ^^^^^^^

This person paid earned the privleage of Founder and currently Whale status to have major influence on the "direction of the ION platform" and also gets information and Ionomy products sooner than other investors. (He refuses to acknowledges its he does not get insider information for trading, that is why I worded it so.) he wants you to invest so you buy the IONs he is dumping selling so he can get whole from his XPY loses pay the bills for the Shark cave. Buying Bitcoin IONs at this low price like CyrtoBuds has is an excellent deal! POW POS is the wave of the future!!!

Beware of individuals such as this when investing in a platform. Not everyone has good intentions and Sharky is a greedy one wise investor in crypto. If you buy IONs, you are just giving you're BTC funds to this an individual making ION available in this limited ION market. Please research before making and investment decision and never listen to individuals such as WildShark.

Im not saying don't buy ION, I'm just saying to do you own research and beware of listen to individuals such as this from the ION community. Come chat with the Ionomy community on Ionomy slack at https://ionomy.slack.com/messages/general/details/

Join the Ionomy today!!!


We are both saying the same things, you Shill and I promote!

You actually provide absolutely ZERO value except that of a comedic role.

please read above, I add more to the value with details

[suchmoon]

I provide the dollar address of the Bitcoin that was converted to dollars...

What is a "dollar address"?

Here's the text and version for "earned"

You "earned" your status by shilling? Is that what you're trying to say?

[WildShark]

I provide the dollar address of the Bitcoin that was converted to dollars...

What is a "dollar address"?

I provided the address for the funds of the Bitcoin that was converted to dollars... 50 BTC of the IOC Bitcoin funds were not converted

[suchmoon]

I provide the dollar address of the Bitcoin that was converted to dollars...

What is a "dollar address"?

I provided the address for the funds of the Bitcoin that was converted to dollars... 50 BTC of the IOC Bitcoin funds were not converted

You provided an address that has 0 BTC in it. There is no proof of anything else you're saying here. In other words, utterly useless.

[WildShark]

I provide the dollar address of the Bitcoin that was converted to dollars...

What is a "dollar address"?

I provided the address for the funds of the Bitcoin that was converted to dollars... 50 BTC of the IOC Bitcoin funds were not converted

You provided an address that has 0 BTC in it. There is no proof of anything else you're saying here. In other words, utterly useless.

lol sorry U don't like my explaination of posting a "dollar address". Those type of address do not contain Bitcoin... lol

I promote ION. U shill ION and "prove" with Bitcoin. POS is the wave of the future

[suchmoon]

I provide the dollar address of the Bitcoin that was converted to dollars...

What is a "dollar address"?

I provided the address for the funds of the Bitcoin that was converted to dollars... 50 BTC of the IOC Bitcoin funds were not converted

You provided an address that has 0 BTC in it. There is no proof of anything else you're saying here. In other words, utterly useless.

lol sorry U don't like my explaination of posting a "dollar address". Those type of address do not contain Bitcoin... lol

I promote ION. U shill ION and "prove" with Bitcoin. POS is the wave of the future

I didn't mention anything about me liking something or not, you made that up. I stated a fact - the address you posted had 0 BTC in it. And 0 USD too if you keep insisting that it's a "dollar address".

I don't shill ION, you made that up as well.

But at least we have now established that in your vocabulary "promote" means "lie" so that's a positive outcome.

[WildShark]

I don't shill ION, you made that up as well.

8. Point 7 makes you to Nr.1 promoter of this thread, you and your buddies push it to Nr1 all the time.
9. Point 8 could bring a lot new users to invest, just because it is always in the tops.
10. Through point 10, you do promote ION and you say that they are scam. This means you and your buddies promote scam.

shill  [shil]   Slang.  
definition - to advertise or promote (a product) as or in the manner of a huckster; hustle:

I can not understand why the BCT gang is not calling yourself "a shiller of ION" There are 159 pages of you making this thread stay in the number 1 position for this chat Forum!!!

[kken01]

Would be great to have an entity that is legally authorized to process the transaction without every game dev having to go thru that process and do all the same validations on their customers.....

most game devs do just that... games. ion team is different. they are operating as a money transmitting business + games

apple/google stores provide a product/service(non-monetary) for that money and do not need to fulfill banking secrecy acts or other money transmitting regulations. i wonder how they will react to someone turning their payment processor into a money transmitting service with no kyc/aml. i dont know how other gaming coins evade this but to me it looks like you could turn legitimate funds into funding for illegal activities without a trace. very strong move in the day of increased terrorism