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o noes bitcoin is down a fair chunk. @wildshark does that mean ion lost a lot of value since exchanges use usd or is ion now being rated by satoshi until btc rises again? @korvas maybe you can chime in too since you insist on using usd too.
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June 15, 2017, 02:51:23 PM Last edit: June 15, 2017, 05:00:58 PM by WildShark |
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o noes bitcoin is down a fair chunk. @wildshark does that mean ion lost a lot of value since exchanges use usd or is ion now being rated by satoshi until btc rises again? @korvas maybe you can chime in too since you insist on using usd too.
@o0o0 I'm having a hard time with figuring out what question you ask me. The Bitcoin coin being down effects the satoshi rate for all alt coins (ION coin) that are being valued at the Bittrex exchange. At the Coinbase exchange the Bitcoin is being valued with dollars... This will change when BTC balloon bursts, the exchanges will support use of ETH for the value to compare. Coinbase exchange all ready supports the market with ETH/USD trading. See the chart below for the Bitcoin down a fair chunk. Current snapshot of History of ION Market ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.gyazo.com%2F21152e4ce71fdad7eb59cc9240ec5294.png&t=665&c=SSduWi_76KuoYg) All I see is heavy ION volume over last month... signs of a healthy market Current snapshot of Brittrex exchange ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.gyazo.com%2F982f9a8c586e37d77f1ed34dd10ba803.png&t=665&c=iD24FPzvK8WcrQ)
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June 15, 2017, 03:27:05 PM Last edit: November 29, 2020, 05:16:08 AM by suchmoon |
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o noes bitcoin is down a fair chunk. @wildshark does that mean ion lost a lot of value since exchanges use usd or is ion now being rated by satoshi until btc rises again? @korvas maybe you can chime in too since you insist on using usd too.
@o0o0 I'm having a hard time with figuring out what question you ask me. The Bitcoin coin being down effects the satoshi rate for all alt coins (ION coin) that are being valued at the Bittrex exchange. At the Coinbase exchange the Bitcoin is being valued with dollars... This will change when BTC balloon bursts, the exchanges will support use of ETH for the value to compare. Coinbase exchange all ready supports the market with ETH/USD trading. ETH dropped more than BTC today... larger "balloon", larger drop. Now tell us why Bittrex disabled the ION wallet. Could that have something to do with this latest "moar coining" fuckup? https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-ION Edited 2020-11-29 to fix a broken image
Here is an interesting node: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ion/address.dws?ipstNyLXmTeUL8mrbrEm3T2SJHaDACMSbh.htmExtremely lucky it seems... one thing I noticed is the out-of-order timestamps. Some others like that: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ion/address.dws?icDiiVXie5t9wTEkE3YeGeMuGNocAjxz7Q.htmhttps://chainz.cryptoid.info/ion/address.dws?iiZGYodMh8dRW2tdsN2LRcjfu5VbXxzYEy.htmAppear to be significantly more lucky than other nodes during the same time period. But I'm sure the crack team of ION developers have all the data at their disposal and will get to the bottom of this. j/k of course, they'll just come up with some bullshit excuse as usual.
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June 15, 2017, 09:27:07 PM |
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Nice catch! Also, someone is moving the 20k from one address to the other, creating a new master node.
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June 15, 2017, 09:46:44 PM Last edit: November 29, 2020, 05:16:31 AM by suchmoon |
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Nice catch! Also, someone is moving the 20k from one address to the other, creating a new master node.
Probably trying to avoid detection although the address is very clearly at the top of the staking list, nowhere to hide: https://archive.is/NkIjY#selection-1921.0-1965.5 Edited 2020-11-29 to fix a broken imageSo a single 20k node is getting more rewards than any other node, even more than the two multimillion bounty addresses. Looks like an exploit of some sort. The only other explanation I can think of is that the block explorer is borked and this is some kind of optical illusion...
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June 15, 2017, 11:33:55 PM Last edit: November 29, 2020, 05:17:40 AM by suchmoon |
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One masternode has receive 21% of the last 100 blocks, am I reading that right? That doesn't look too good.
Edit: Oh, never mind. The number 1 on the rich list got 21.2% of the last 1000 blocks. That means they got 210+ blocks today. I'd say that's a tad more than luck, just an opinion though. The top 2 on the rich list got ~40% of the last 1000 blocks. Wonder how the Ionites feel about that? I'd guess they are excited about that...that the team may more than likely getting even moar free coins.
Your first conclusion was correct too... out of the last 100 blocks (at the time of the screenshot) one address that had 0.1% of the total coin supply (20k) received 21% of rewards. The only reason it's not showing a high percentage under 1000 blocks is that they keep moving the coins every few hours. Current one is https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ion/address.dws?iWyAM4KwHun9xDSnWa2qT7Lapr1CxLwHLL.htm - 3% of rewards, which by itself isn't too horrible (could be variance) but when you track the coins and find out that those coins have been earning way above average for hours or even days - doesn't seem right. Edited 2020-11-29 to fix a broken imageAs for the "team" - they likely get ~75% since that's their share of the ICO.
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June 16, 2017, 01:27:12 AM |
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so ion 3.0 soon? not transfercoin this time?
would be funny if bittrex is onto it and delist
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June 16, 2017, 02:22:14 AM Last edit: November 29, 2020, 05:18:16 AM by suchmoon |
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so ion 3.0 soon? not transfercoin this time?
would be funny if bittrex is onto it and delist
Bittrex probably doesn't give a shit. Although they did disable the wallet but it's "at dev request", so presumably they will re-enable it if the "team" submits a new clone or some other kind of remedy. Huey said on slack that an update is being tested but that could mean it's hours or months away. Meanwhile the hyperstaking address is back at it: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ion/address.dws?iWyAM4KwHun9xDSnWa2qT7Lapr1CxLwHLL.htmIP: 45.76.96.108
I guess everybody's so excited with extra coins that they forgot to play Gravity... only 17 players this week, 16 really because that last one probably just started and quit immediately: Edited 2020-11-29 to fix a broken image
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June 16, 2017, 12:15:03 PM |
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before I laugh at these imbeciles again: is it more likely that someone orchestrated an attack vs just a randomly occurring bug? knowing these jokers it will take weeks to fix and they end up rolling back the chain ok, let the laughing commence inflation is on par with Venezuela. the economy is awesome there! incompetence at its finest once again also known as top notch quality assurance from ionomy ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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June 16, 2017, 02:24:02 PM Last edit: November 29, 2020, 05:18:48 AM by suchmoon |
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before I laugh at these imbeciles again: is it more likely that someone orchestrated an attack vs just a randomly occurring bug? knowing these jokers it will take weeks to fix and they end up rolling back the chain ok, let the laughing commence inflation is on par with Venezuela. the economy is awesome there! incompetence at its finest once again also known as top notch quality assurance from ionomy ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I thought it's a bug until I saw that address that defies my (admittedly limited) knowledge of probability. It looks like they - whoever that is - don't even hide anymore: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ion/address.dws?iWyAM4KwHun9xDSnWa2qT7Lapr1CxLwHLL.htm140% staked in ~12 hours or so. 28k coins from a single masternode. The average for a typical masternode would be is ~300 coins during the same period, or ~30 coins on a normal day. Difficulty has completed flatlined now. https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ion/#@diff Edited 2020-11-29 to fix a broken image11k blocks, 1400 orphans, 200k new coins in just over 14 hours today. Usual numbers are 1240, 50, 21k per 24 hours.
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June 16, 2017, 03:26:00 PM |
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Hello, ppl!
Are there any releases on ION?
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June 16, 2017, 03:32:59 PM Last edit: June 16, 2017, 03:57:57 PM by WildShark |
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I thought it's a bug until I saw that address that defies my (admittedly limited) knowledge of probability. It looks like they - whoever that is - don't even hide anymore: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ion/address.dws?iWyAM4KwHun9xDSnWa2qT7Lapr1CxLwHLL.htm140% staked in ~12 hours or so. 28k coins from a single masternode. The average for a typical masternode would be is ~300 coins during the same period, or ~30 coins on a normal day. Difficulty has completed flatlined now. https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ion/#@diff![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.snag.gy%2FaAtoxq.jpg&t=665&c=j24rBqoBEB7Tgw) 11k blocks, 1400 orphans, 200k new coins in just over 14 hours today. Usual numbers are 1240, 50, 21k per 24 hours. @suchmoon You could always ask the team on Ionomy Slack "what the details of this defect are from a "unbiased" source?" Is it a bug or an attack ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) or the team setting the stage for a big pump ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) or scheduled upgrade of the wallet that has been moved forward ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) I have confidence in Huey that the team will get a handle on this defect and implement a solution ASAP when all the facts are in...
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June 16, 2017, 03:38:22 PM |
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According to Slack communications the team knows yet they haven't said anything about the issue other than they will announce something "soon". It's completely useless to go into Slack.
Edit: WildShill, please thoroughly think through your post before submitting it. I am tired of looking back at your post only to see it has been edited 4-5 times from its original state.
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June 16, 2017, 03:38:49 PM |
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WildShill, YOU could always ask on the Ionomy Slack channel. But you don't care, you're getting more free coins.
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June 16, 2017, 03:41:16 PM Last edit: November 29, 2020, 05:19:31 AM by suchmoon |
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@suchmoon You could always ask the team on Ionomy Slack "what the details of this defect are from a "unbiased" source? Is it a bug or an attack ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) or the team setting the stage for a big pump ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) or scheduled upgrade of the wallet ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Why don't you ask and report back. This "go ask on slack" meme is getting old. Nobody's saying shit there: Edited 2020-11-29 to fix a broken image
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June 16, 2017, 04:07:54 PM |
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Why don't you ask and report back. This "go ask on slack" meme is getting old. Nobody's saying shit there: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.snag.gy%2FL3Dga5.jpg&t=665&c=twq8VUoGaGEbRQ) @suchmoon You could always ask the team on Ionomy Slack "what the details of this defect are from a "unbiased" source?" Is it a bug or an attack ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) or the team setting the stage for a big pump ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) or scheduled upgrade of the wallet that has been moved forward ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) I have confidence in Huey that the team will get a handle on this defect and implement a solution ASAP when all the facts are in... Huey has implemented a News Blackout and the team will release information about when the defect is announced...
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June 16, 2017, 04:29:42 PM Last edit: June 16, 2017, 07:38:29 PM by suchmoon |
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Sharkie, it's been more than a week since the issue started. Your confidence is misplaced. The "facts" better come in 20 leather-bound volumes, otherwise I can't see what they were doing all this time. Speaking of facts, these blocks are funny: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ion/block.dws?189483.htmTimestamp: 1497625600 Previous block timestamp: 1497629456 (more than an hour LATER although the actual time between blocks was just a few seconds) Next block timestamp: 1497629456 (same as two blocks ago) Edit for readability - block timestamps go like this: 9456 --> 5600 (block number 189483) --> 9456, where 9456 is the ~ correct time. I can't think of any good reason why that middle block would have a timestamp of an hour ago. And of course it's "mined" by that super-lucky masternode, so there's that. I'm guessing this nonsense has something to do with fucking up the difficulty adjustments. Typically there are time drift restrictions in the code, AFAIK BTC checks the average timestamps of previous blocks as well as time reported by connected nodes but it only adjusts difficulty every 2016 blocks so any timestamp manipulation would be quite pointless. ION adjusts every block.
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June 16, 2017, 04:39:11 PM |
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Why don't you ask and report back. This "go ask on slack" meme is getting old. Nobody's saying shit there: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.snag.gy%2FL3Dga5.jpg&t=665&c=twq8VUoGaGEbRQ) @suchmoon You could always ask the team on Ionomy Slack "what the details of this defect are from a "unbiased" source?" Is it a bug or an attack ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) or the team setting the stage for a big pump ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) or scheduled upgrade of the wallet that has been moved forward ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) I have confidence in Huey that the team will get a handle on this defect and implement a solution ASAP when all the facts are in... Huey has implemented a News Blackout and the team will release information about when the defect is announced... Then why would you tell people to go ask in Slack if this is the case?
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June 16, 2017, 05:01:05 PM |
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Because he is an ignorant shill. Hoping that other people will see it and join them on slack instead of read through this thread. Smoke and mirrors, the GAW - Paycoin - now ION way.
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June 16, 2017, 07:06:23 PM |
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Yeah looks like an exploit. Nice catch! Also, someone is moving the 20k from one address to the other, creating a new master node.
Probably trying to avoid detection although the address is very clearly at the top of the staking list, nowhere to hide: https://archive.is/NkIjY#selection-1921.0-1965.5https://i.snag.gy/cSAC0x.jpgSo a single 20k node is getting more rewards than any other node, even more than the two multimillion bounty addresses. Looks like an exploit of some sort. The only other explanation I can think of is that the block explorer is borked and this is some kind of optical illusion...
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