Jens Steyaert No but as mentioned above we will have a yearly goal o growing the company revenue with more than 20% and then the inflation doesn't matter. Also don't forget that we will have other revenue streams which can be used to control the rate of inflation and all advertising sales are locked for 12 months. I do'nt see how a fixed inflation percentage will hurt the value of ADZ in the long run, and I definately don't see how that would matter for people that bought ADZ for pennies.
-INFLATION DOESN'T MATTER??? what do you call a dev that doesn't believe on inflation? idiot right???
I like to discuss that with you.
Please debunk these reasons of me explaining why inflation does't matter with a reply at a decent level (and don't be surprised if it's deleted when you fail to do so):
1. ADZcoin is not a crypto in the sense you think. It's not backed by the assumption it has value, it will actually have value because people will pay for it when ordering a real product (ad space). Online advertising is kind of a billion dollar business in case you haven't noticed and Facebook rakes in billions of dollars every month...
This system will self-control the price of ADZcoin and actually create a pretty stable price that grows along with the growth of ADZbuzz.
In fact, the intrinsic value after a succesful launch (with pretty high budget and viral system) will be $5.75 per coin! (Find the detailed calculation here:
http://adzcoindesk.com/adzcoin-intrinsic-value/).
Now you say Inflation matters a lot and even call me an idiot for this (in poor English and without any argument but hey, what's to be expected?)...
Let's do the same calculation after 10 years (!) with the 20% inflation at half the growth rate of Facebook! (let's be humble and 10 years is basically ages online)
-> 15 billion page views per day x 3 = 45 billion ad views per day (based on 2012 FB stats so not even 10 years)
-> 309 million coins by then
-> CTR of 0,015 (very low assumption with high level targeting)
-> Cost per click = $0.5 (pretty low too)
-> Calculation: 1 / 309,000,000 (total coins) X 15,000,000,000 (total ad views) X 365 (12 month lock) = 17,718 page views per ADZ
-> At a CTR of 0.015 and CPC of $0.5
the intrinsic value of ADZ = $132.885So in 10 years time, the value of ADZ will have grown more than 2300%.
So please, try to use your best explanation to refute this simple logic and explain why inflation will matter for ADZcoin, you seem to be pretty hard-headed so i'm sure you have the perfect explantion and "warn" people with your honest beliefs.
2. No inflation would create a huge bubble.
This one speaks for itself, because if we limit the amount of coins in existence the value of ADZ will skyrocket after launch and is bound to be hit by a huge crash the moment some people decide to cash out. Our system will provide solid growth and the price will adjust according to the intrinsic value calculation, NOT specualtion that feeds trolls who try to scam other people.
ADZcoin won't allow this, so please explain in the best words you have (if any) what is wrong with this?
ADZcoin will have a double purpose, investors get daily rewards and will try to make a ROI on their initial deposit, this will create a entirely different paradigm of investing in cryptocurrencies...
3. Inflation is basically necessary for growth.
ADZcoin will not solely have the purpose of backing the ADZbuzz ad space. We really want to make ADZbuzzPay, our own in-house payment processor and marketplace a success and for that, inflation is needed.
If people think the value of their coins will triple in a month, the won't spend coins in ADZcoin stores. We want to stimulate the ADZcoin economy as it will give us a lot more options to reward publishers, the other main element of the ADZcoin project.
Again, please explain why we would want to attract hoarders and pump an dump scammers? You are one yourself so good riddence I would say...
Our system will keep the low-level investors at a distance, so go ahead and spread more nonsense, it's quite beneficial for us and we are happyme's, all of us! (fe: you don't see Ethereum affected by the dozens of scam accusations now do you? Proof no serious investor listens to crap and only cares about facts...)
Oh an in addition to this, just about every economist agrees that inflation is needed for the economy, just saying...
4. Growth of ADZbuzz is unlimited
If we don't allow more coins to be created this would basically send out a message to potential investors that we don't believe in our project.
If you do the calculations yourself, you can easily see the yearly growth of ADZcoin value, all we need to do is make ADZbuzz a success. We will do that, period.
The intrinsic value calculation is ALL that matters for ADZcoin. If we grow ADZbuzz, attract advertisers and grow the economy, ADZcoin will become one of the top coins in the world by market cap very soon.
-> We have a viral system
-> We have a decent sized budget to do some major promo's when developments are ready
-> We have a dedicated team of 15 developers and numerous volunteers
-> Our system genuinly helps people
-> Our system helps people that will help us grow!
So pretty please, with sugar on top, give me your final argument as to why you think inflation is bad for ADZcoin?
I'm sure real investors will do just a little research so you owe them at least that I guess.
Jens
PS: I'm really curious about your reply.
NOTE :THIS COMMENT MAY ERASE ANYTIME. CONSIDER YOUR SELF LUCKY IF YOU READ THIS MESSAGE.
You are erasing my post coz you're afraid that everyone knows the truth. Being optimistic must be balance from reality. Your calculation is just a mere imagination. that's what you've promise during ADZ ver. 1. without traders like us who catch the dumps, the value of your coin is like a shit like what is happening right now.
1. ADZcoin is not a crypto in the sense you think.
-this is one of the most stupid explanation you ever said. it's not a crypto? why bother adding it on crypto platform? you see how stupid you are???
2. This system will self-control the price of ADZcoin and actually create a pretty stable price.
-this is what you've promise during ADZ ver.1. you can't even stabilize a limited supply coin how much more unlimited supply forever.
3. No inflation would create a huge bubble.
-Dont kid your self 50M already made a huge inflation. what do you expect if it's more than 50M ADZ.
4. Inflation is basically necessary for growth.
-dude you already said you don't believe in inflation. make up your mind.
5. Growth of ADZbuzz is unlimited
If we don't allow more coins to be created this would basically send out a message to potential investors that we don't believe in our project.
-Growth of coin supply is unlimited, that is reality. grow of ADZBUZZ , i don't think so.another promise before that never met.
Adding more coins every year is just for your own gain but never on the investors side. how is that for a reality check.
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before i forgot you haven't answer my questions before and delete it. i just summarize it.
1. why 5:1 ratio? is it fair for the investors?
2. why swapping is not announced in YOBIT and CCEX but Announced in LIVECOIN where only few volume made?
3. 3 days swap??? only scammers do that. if you have no intention to scam people, you will give them ample of time to make a swap and it should be 1:1. you already said you blocked ADZ addresses that has MILLIONS of ADZ that exploit ADZBUZZ. fish caught on their mouth dude.
4. you are accusing me of exploiting ADZBUZZ, i don't even register on that fuckin site. by the way that's already been used by a lot of scammers to come up for another scam coin version. swap is a good accomplish.
No arguments huh? Wow i'm surprised
Or you consider this one:
"3. No inflation would create a huge bubble.
-Dont kid your self 50M already made a huge inflation. what do you expect if it's more than 50M ADZ."
Thanks for replying though you just confirmed what everybody else is thinking, we all had a good laugh.
I'll just give my basic views on your ramblings and ellaborate on things you (willingly?) don't seem to understand again, even though it's an exercise in futility (I like our concept so much so I can't resist, it's not because I think anybody here believes a word you say though don't get excited...):
1. ADZcoin is not a crypto in the sense you think.
-this is one of the most stupid explanation you ever said. it's not a crypto? why bother adding it on crypto platform? you see how stupid you are???
It will be added here in the asset section:
https://coinmarketcap.com/assets/views/all/ These are pretty much all added here...
If you have any understanding of my previous debunking answer you would understand what this means and why ADZcoin is not a crypto in the sense you think...
Uhm... who looks stupid exactly?
2. This system will self-control the price of ADZcoin and actually create a pretty stable price.
-this is what you've promise during ADZ ver.1. you can't even stabilize a limited supply coin how much more unlimited supply forever.
We haven't launched yet so that's irrelevant, let's see what happens when the ADZbuzzer is actually ready shall we?
3. No inflation would create a huge bubble.
-Dont kid your self 50M already made a huge inflation. what do you expect if it's more than 50M ADZ.
That doesn't make any sense, my calculation is pretty logical and every intelligent human being can agree with it. You can even adjust the numbers if you're more pessimistic, so go ahead give and it a try and come back to us with your findings.
4. Inflation is basically necessary for growth.
-dude you already said you don't believe in inflation. make up your mind.
We made up our mind as we have finalized the system... read it here:
http://adzcoindesk.com/adzcoin-intrinsic-value/I don't believe in inflation when the coin isn't backed by anything, if it's backed by an asset that grows faster it's good for growth of the entire project. Or you weren't able to get that from my previous reply? It's pretty simple to understand to be honest, everybody else does.
5. Growth of ADZbuzz is unlimited
If we don't allow more coins to be created this would basically send out a message to potential investors that we don't believe in our project.
-Growth of coin supply is unlimited, that is reality. grow of ADZBUZZ , i don't think so.another promise before that never met.
Adding more coins every year is just for your own gain but never on the investors side. how is that for a reality check.
If you don't believe in the viral system of the ADZbuzzer (which hasn't launched by the way so nothing previous can compare with this event), then that's your right, everybody's entitled to an opinion. Nobody longs for you to become an active ADZbuzz member (a member anywhere for that matter) so goodbye and stay happy...
How exactly is it for our gain though if we give away the coins to advertisers and publishers and use the rest to grow the company?
We have a lot more to gain if we didn't do the swap (in your mind at least, quite the opposite from your way of thinking) so your reasoning is a bit off...
And so what if we make money to grow our company? You think our 15 devs work for free?
28 items being worked on this very moment, while you are wasting your time and life doing something that wil have zero effect on the outcome of ADZbuzz...
Good luck convincing people a business doesn't need cashflow to grow...
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To answer your questions:
1. why 5:1 ratio? is it fair for the investors?
The swap has been announced for many weeks so everybody had more than 10 days to swap at 1:1 ratio. We make the rules, if you don't follow them or care to read the updates then that's not our fault... The ratio 5:1 is an amazing deal by the way, we'll start selling the coins (read: ad space if you care to understand what our coins represent) at $0.50 so stop with your stupid nonsnese this is a bad deal, it's insulting and you look very ridiculous...Or you didn't notice yet that nobody else is complaining really if they understand this simple fact?
Kinda suspicious don't you think you are unable to comprehend this?
Everybody, try to grasp this: What the anonymous Happyme1818 is saying here is that swapping a coin for 2-5 cents that will be sold for 50 cents some weeks from now is bad for the investor that bought the coins at cents...
Nobody can be this stupid to think this is a bad deal right?
2. why swapping is not announced in YOBIT and CCEX but Announced in LIVECOIN where only few volume made?
Yobit support doesn't reply to our tickets, they have NO support, only Livecoin did so that's the simple reason. We did post frequently in the troll box though the week before the swap, I really doubt you didn't see that, you prety much live there right?
3. 3 days swap??? only scammers do that. if you have no intention to scam people, you will give them ample of time to make a swap and it should be 1:1. you already said you blocked ADZ addresses that has MILLIONS of ADZ that exploit ADZBUZZ. fish caught on their mouth dude.
Two weeks swap...Was announced and the fact you are so butthurt about this whole event just exposes you as one of the scammers and thieves who exploited our generosity early on and got his ADZ address blacklisted for the swap. In this case, you lost, nothing to gain here anymore...
4. you are accusing me of exploiting ADZBUZZ, i don't even register on that fuckin site. by the way that's already been used by a lot of scammers to come up for another scam coin version. swap is a good accomplish.
If you think anybody will believe that after your ridiculous ramblings in poor English, good luck...
I wish you a happy time in the Yobit Scambox, I think there's more to gain for you there were you can communicate at your own level.
Jens
