Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments

[Malek17]

Today, we are launching a Telegram bot that allows to pass a small quiz and get a $5.00 worth reward in Bytes.  It is paid from the undistributed funds.

Full story: https://medium.com/byteball/money-for-knowledge-distribution-via-telegram-quiz-bot-2dd400e22997

Telegram bot: @ByteballQuizBot

About 500 users have passed the quiz since launch (despite frequent offs due to bugs, running out of money, running out of daily quota, etc) but I observe some share of fraud too.  It is not very large but concerning.  To reduce the incentive for fraud, the reward will now be reduced to $2.50.

Unfortunately we are getting more cheaters.  Starting now, the reward is further reduced to $0.35.

could you please tell us how you find the cheaters. if i remember it right you wrote that because telegram needs a phonenumber you found a way to reduce cheating.
is there a way to use telegram with fake phonenumbers? or how did they cheat you?

I see that multiple textcoins are claimed to the same address.  
They probably buy telegram accounts or virtual phone numbers.

if you want telegram account they are for sale 1000 for $37 (not need to mention where)and the more you buy the cheaper you ca get them

Doubt that is even legit. Any telegram account logged in from a new location requires the code. Do you think the seller logs into each account to give you that code when you ask? lol no. Scrap the telegram and host it on byteball.org site (the quiz) that way you can add your own security measures @TonyCh

Otherwise - quit worrying about cheaters because there will be somebody always here to try and exploit any system. No matter what kind of distribution technique you use, somebody is going to try and find a way to exploit that and claim more then they are allowed. Obviously they can't with a drop to BTC holders but you've stopped that.

there is not doubt in that absolutely you can have portable telegram accounts and you don't need to sign in at all you want to buy i can sell it for you but my ones are not 1000 for $37 the more expensive than that,you probably talking about mobile telegram i am talking about desktop telegram

[sailthor]

Today, we are launching a Telegram bot that allows to pass a small quiz and get a $5.00 worth reward in Bytes.  It is paid from the undistributed funds.

Full story: https://medium.com/byteball/money-for-knowledge-distribution-via-telegram-quiz-bot-2dd400e22997

Telegram bot: @ByteballQuizBot

About 500 users have passed the quiz since launch (despite frequent offs due to bugs, running out of money, running out of daily quota, etc) but I observe some share of fraud too.  It is not very large but concerning.  To reduce the incentive for fraud, the reward will now be reduced to $2.50.

Unfortunately we are getting more cheaters.  Starting now, the reward is further reduced to $0.35.

could you please tell us how you find the cheaters. if i remember it right you wrote that because telegram needs a phonenumber you found a way to reduce cheating.
is there a way to use telegram with fake phonenumbers? or how did they cheat you?

I see that multiple textcoins are claimed to the same address.  
They probably buy telegram accounts or virtual phone numbers.

if you want telegram account they are for sale 1000 for $37 (not need to mention where)and the more you buy the cheaper you ca get them

Doubt that is even legit. Any telegram account logged in from a new location requires the code. Do you think the seller logs into each account to give you that code when you ask? lol no. Scrap the telegram and host it on byteball.org site (the quiz) that way you can add your own security measures @TonyCh

Otherwise - quit worrying about cheaters because there will be somebody always here to try and exploit any system. No matter what kind of distribution technique you use, somebody is going to try and find a way to exploit that and claim more then they are allowed. Obviously they can't with a drop to BTC holders but you've stopped that.

there is not doubt in that absolutely you can have portable telegram accounts and you don't need to sign in at all you want to buy i can sell it for you but my ones are not 1000 for $37 the more expensive than that,you probably talking about mobile telegram i am talking about desktop telegram

Sure. And how do you suppose I login to the desktop telegram accounts? They require a phone number to login - if you login new location a code is sent to the telegram accounts chat

[jhenfelipe]

On my mobile wallet, I checked chat > Bot Store > SilentNotary ICO

I was surprised seeing that the ICO is active until 15 March 2018 only which I knew to be until April. I double checked it on Silent Notary website plus telegram and the ICO is still on going, confirmed to end on April 12th. Therefore, it was a mistake in the Byteball wallet.

Just letting you know.  ~

[tbct_mt2]

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Hello guy,

I have small recommendation, which might be useful for your and for forum users, for you. Your thread is annoying one due to you over-quoted in the thread.
Next time, you should delete all unnecessary stuffs, which you don't really want to quote them, just let them in the thread due to you were a little bit lazy.
If you don't know how to do it, please look at my attached images.
Deleting all stuffs that are highlighted from first image to second image
The first



The second


Then put snip in between quote for the last thread which you would like to discuss with, before writing your thread.

Best regards,

[oHnK]

Your thread is annoying one due to you over-quoted in the thread.

Annoying? I find that very normal in altcoin section. This is a public forum and not everyone care about it. Some people just quote and reply without even trying to make it looks good. Anyway the discussion in this thread is among members however important news can be find in the OP so people could still easily find it

[tbct_mt2]

Agree! It is normal, popular in altcoin child boards, but it is really annoying

Annoying? I find that very normal in altcoin section.

Wrong! I think lots of users don't like it. They just don't show their ideas. You are Hero, so I guess you can see the fact that in Meta boards and other serious boards, there are less annoying (just let I called like this) threads. Honestly, do you agree with me that you feel better when reading threads in those boards?

This is a public forum and not everyone care about it. Some people just quote and reply without even trying to make it looks good.

No need to do this, but it's will be easier th find important, constructive threads if spammers stop making shitty posts most of the time, don't over-quote all the time.

Anyway the discussion in this thread is among members however important news can be find in the OP so people could still easily find it

[European Central Bank]

That's the least of my concern.

good job you're not a campaign manager then. it's not their job to get sentimental about things. it's their job to select posters who won't be a total disgrace to what they're representing and spread the word.

and those posters should be people who are all over the forum. a byteball sig in a byteball thread is an absolute waste of money.

[xlcus]

That's the least of my concern.

good job you're not a campaign manager then. it's not their job to get sentimental about things. it's their job to select posters who won't be a total disgrace to what they're representing and spread the word.

and those posters should be people who are all over the forum. a byteball sig in a byteball thread is an absolute waste of money.

You are paid for "protect" the signature campaign? You did a good job.
I think at least one point is right: the Byteball campaign is a waste of money.

[afbitcoins]

In my view the best distribution method of the fund left is airdrop to all byteball holders  in inverse proportion to Gbytes they have, providing they were  kept for at least a month ( to avoid massive dump). The less Gbytes you have the more you get. And it has to be done in one round of airdrop. After this  I expect a market  will soon warm it up.

Mike works and saves, so he has 10 apples.
John doesn't care and wastes, so he has 1 apple.

Let's distribute apples.   Ok Mike, you have 10, so you only get 1 for your hard work and planning.  John, you only have 1, but although you're wasteful and willing to dump, you get 10 apples.  Now you both have 11 (again?).

How is this fair?
The person that actually saves and believes in the system gets less because he HODLed, while the person that may even have received the same amount initially and dump some/most of it gets more?

By spendings his apples (GBytes)  John  stimulated demand thus pushing economy ( Byteball) forward.
By holding his apples (Gbytes) Mike did nothing for economy (Byteball).
Economy  (Byteball) is stimulated by spenders  but not by savers.
To get it, please, read about Keynesian model of economy.

People in the crypto space believe in that Keynesian crap!?

[galyna]

The Byteball is highly ambitious project that hold vast promise and even considering as a new Blockchain Alternative (as this article says: https://perfectial.com/blog/dag-vs-blockchain/). But technology it's using is still very young and untested, however, and in my opinion, there’s still a lot of improving to do.

[StandingTall]

Byteball allows anybody to upload arbitrary data (like docs, pdf, pictures or whatever) on the dag chain which makes it permanently part of the database stored by all full nodes. Now - what if somebody posts criminal stuff like child porn or something and suddenly all full nodes will store this shit forever? I think we need some safeguards against such abuse. Maybe only real ID verified users should be allowed to upload data? Any ideas or thoughts on this? How to ensure legality without censorship?

[Bannedseller]

What's the difference between these two differents and great projects: BYTEBALL and Nano?
In other words will it be faster and cheaper to use BYTEBALL or Nano for mass adoption?

[cryptohunter]

That's the least of my concern.

good job you're not a campaign manager then. it's not their job to get sentimental about things. it's their job to select posters who won't be a total disgrace to what they're representing and spread the word.

and those posters should be people who are all over the forum. a byteball sig in a byteball thread is an absolute waste of money.

that's why i said getting sentimental was the least of my concern.

please read and comprehend before wasting time cluttering the board with more nonsense.

Really byteball supporters are all zealots that never venture outside of the byteball thread? so they are a waste of time on the sig campaign?

why are you on the sig campaign then???  are you saying you are the only bb supporter who posts outside of the bb thread?  Please remove yourself now if that is what you believe.


Let me make it real simple so that you have no need to reply further.


getting sentimental is the least of my concern = im not concerned so much with him being sentimental. Get it now?

Although I question even your definition of sentimental as being anywhere near a correct representation of what i was saying.


In fact even entering discussion with you seems pointless since if I need to spoon feed every single sentence to you several times just for you to misrepresent or stumble over every reply i make then even convincing you to my point of pov (incidentally it was simply a statement providing observable events) is unimportant to me. What can I possibly gain by wasting my energy assisting you.

You continue  eating yahoo's ass to ensure you get on the next sig campaign he runs.

[Malek17]

Otherwise - quit worrying about cheaters because there will be somebody always here to try and exploit any system. No matter what kind of distribution technique you use, somebody is going to try and find a way to exploit that and claim more then they are allowed. Obviously they can't with a drop to BTC holders but you've stopped that.
[/quote] there is not doubt in that absolutely you can have portable telegram accounts and you don't need to sign in at all you want to buy i can sell it for you but my ones are not 1000 for $37 the more expensive than that,you probably talking about mobile telegram i am talking about desktop telegram
[/quote]Sure. And how do you suppose I login to the desktop telegram accounts? They require a phone number to login - if you login new location a code is sent to the telegram accounts chat
[/quote]
you only log in when you create the account the first time,you won't need to log in again in portable version as long s you don't log out

[bobq]

Unfortunately we are getting more cheaters.  Starting now, the reward is further reduced to $0.35.

That more or less ends this giveaway. Isn't there any other way to ensure accounts are real?
I've suggested it before (and I'm not sure if you've seen it): how about an airdrop to existing Bitcointalk user accounts? You risk airdropping on account farmers, but if it's related to Merit received and account Rank, you can exclude many spammers.

It would be sufficient to take into consideration only accounts with some rank and at least one acquired merit to exclude most account farmers. If too many acquired merits will be required, you'd end up doing an airdrop for just a few, which wouldn't make much sense. However, I'm not sure this all would change adoption rate so much. After all, people on BCT who are owning BTCs would have probably already applied to the airdrop one year ago.

[sailthor]

you only log in when you create the account the first time,you won't need to log in again in portable version as long s you don't log out

You've got no idea what you're talking about.

[Malek17]

you only log in when you create the account the first time,you won't need to log in again in portable version as long s you don't log out

You've got no idea what you're talking about.

i know exactly what i am talking about and i am not going to say anything again it up to you if you want to beliee or not

[ekoja]

Your thread is annoying one due to you over-quoted in the thread.

Annoying? I find that very normal in altcoin section. This is a public forum and not everyone care about it. Some people just quote and reply without even trying to make it looks good. Anyway the discussion in this thread is among members however important news can be find in the OP so people could still easily find it

What is the point of your conversation?
Just to increase the number of your posts in order to both get your Byteball sig campaign bounty?
You both win!

[scambust]

It is good news for Byteball community. Byteball platform and its services have become more popular and used by more projects (maybe due to its convenience).

A new ICO on BB Platform : Worldopoly

I also look at Worldopoly, that is likely potential project which can change the gaming industry based on taking advantage of powerful blockchain hashrates). However, I will discover about the project more when I have spare time.

Worldopoly is the world’s first mobile game combining AR, AI, Geolocationing, Blockchain, and DAG.

Again, Bot Store shows us its amazing functions.

Wordopoly ICO Bot is already added to the Bot Store.

Congratulations!

I don't get how Worldopoly will use Byteball. As far as I read from their official website, Worldpoly will be using ERC-20 ETH tokens. Maybe in-game transactions? Then why get into the trouble of using ETH tokens?

[ilcapitano]

You are paid for "protect" the signature campaign? You did a good job.
I think at least one point is right: the Byteball campaign is a waste of money.

That guy complained all the time about Byteball signature campaigns (maybe he implied all campaigns of Byteball projects, which have been operated concurrently). Why is that?
If signature campaigns are not powerful, efficient tool to spread projects information out, no projects' founders, managers will do it in the forum.
It's simple fact.
Moreover, as someone said in previous pages, this guys mainly posted shits. I have spent my precious minutes to look at hist post history and I can not disagree with this point.