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February 08, 2018, 01:58:48 AM
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Thanks Michail, but I was referring to the ID verification for the referral system, as mentioned in this thread:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ByteBall/comments/7rtixn/byteball_id_verification_program_tutorial/

I don't remember all details of this initiative, this is why my post was not so precise, but I remember that when it was launched time ago I was at first VERY enthusiastic of it but then something in the technical process didn't work out properly and I've started to read of all the complains of people who were just losing their 8$ for the failed verification and I've postponed to deal with the issue until I forgot about it.

Thanks.
I agree with you.  I didn't realize there was such a big issue and that people are so willing to submit passports and drivers licenses.

Personally, I wouldn't sell my identification for $12.


Yeah, that's another good point, this is why I have skipped the Polymath airdrop, which I've heard was not bad as value, because they were requiring passport identification etc, which I had found very annoying. But I remember that with the Byteball issue is was not too annoying, since you basically would have to have just one wallet address linked to your identity, and not necessarily the one that you would usually use.

Yup, what's the use of cryptocurrencies when you have to voluntarily provide identification to authorities. Isn't PGP keys or crypto itself means to verify you're you.


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February 08, 2018, 08:36:24 AM
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Here is a possible list of exchanges we should contact together to list GBYTE. I, myself am fortunate enough to have a Bittrex account at the moment but others are not.

- YoBit
- Mercatox
- Kucoin
- Binance
- Coinexchange
- Upcoin
- Bitpaya
- Okex
- Huobi
- BitHumb
- GDAX
- Poloniex
- HitBtc
- Tidex
- Kuna
- ShapeShift
- CryptoBridge

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February 08, 2018, 08:48:02 AM
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Thanks Michail, but I was referring to the ID verification for the referral system, as mentioned in this thread:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ByteBall/comments/7rtixn/byteball_id_verification_program_tutorial/

I don't remember all details of this initiative, this is why my post was not so precise, but I remember that when it was launched time ago I was at first VERY enthusiastic of it but then something in the technical process didn't work out properly and I've started to read of all the complains of people who were just losing their 8$ for the failed verification and I've postponed to deal with the issue until I forgot about it.

Thanks.
I agree with you.  I didn't realize there was such a big issue and that people are so willing to submit passports and drivers licenses.

Personally, I wouldn't sell my identification for $12.


Yeah, that's another good point, this is why I have skipped the Polymath airdrop, which I've heard was not bad as value, because they were requiring passport identification etc, which I had found very annoying. But I remember that with the Byteball issue is was not too annoying, since you basically would have to have just one wallet address linked to your identity, and not necessarily the one that you would usually use.

Yup, what's the use of cryptocurrencies when you have to voluntarily provide identification to authorities. Isn't PGP keys or crypto itself means to verify you're you.
My take on Tony implementing Jumio ID verification is that he might be considering byteball to become a major platform for ICO's in the future. Implementing a KYC within Byteball allows new ICO's to ensure that consumers meet their specific ICO regulations/rules.

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February 08, 2018, 01:47:37 PM
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Michail1, you're right everything is perfect and nothing should be improved. I finally realized it after all of your whining about every suggestion and reality bending.

Let me jog your memory of when you said verification is a gamble.

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Your response is akin to saying... Why shouldn't I be refunded by the casino if the ball lands on Red when I put my money on Black?   I mean, I intended to bet on Black, so it should be considered a win even though it was my mistake for physically putting it on Red.   Just like all the people investing on known Ponzi scams working out great until it fails and then complain that they lost their money and want it back.  LOL.  If someone invests in something and it makes money, they are happy.  If they invest and it goes down, it's everyone's fault but their own and they feel entitled to get everything back.
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February 08, 2018, 02:00:35 PM
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If you read through the instructions fully you should have noticed the warning that this process has to be performed from a single address wallet. It's not a scam, but it certainly doesn't suffer fools. No offence.
Michail1 have you read this post or would you suggest Hhugh is lying? This community is incredibly toxic and that's why it barely grows. The person who failed the verification process that is simultaneously necessary and unnecessary to do with a single address wallet is both a kid and a fool according to posters here.

"See my procedure for verification that has failed many times due to users not doing the right thing is very user friendly because if you're intelligent you would have got it right and we only want technical people but we also want everyday users". If verification is so user friendly then why haven't we gotten more than ~250 Jumio attestations and why are there so many complaining about failure here and on Reddit?

I will add here again for you: I am not asking for an airdrop, I am asking for clear and comprehensive information about the future distribution as it should not be in limbo this long. I do not want more airdrops unless it is a proportional airdrop or burn. While there has been some money contributed to marketing, the community fund is vastly smaller than the undistributed fund and some of the undistributed fund should be utilized for development and marketing going forward. Marketing has been almost entirely done by community members and not by the project itself.
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February 08, 2018, 02:23:55 PM
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Here is a possible list of exchanges we should contact together to list GBYTE. I, myself am fortunate enough to have a Bittrex account at the moment but others are not.

- YoBit
- Mercatox
- Kucoin
- Binance
- Coinexchange
- Upcoin
- Bitpaya
- Okex
- Huobi
- BitHumb
- GDAX
- Poloniex
- HitBtc
- Tidex
- Kuna
- ShapeShift
- CryptoBridge

Most of them if not all will require the Dev or one of the Devs team to apply for the exchange not a community member.
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February 08, 2018, 02:49:52 PM
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Any news on the march airdrop, I could really do with some good news!
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February 08, 2018, 03:02:36 PM
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Here is a possible list of exchanges we should contact together to list GBYTE. I, myself am fortunate enough to have a Bittrex account at the moment but others are not.

- YoBit
- Mercatox
- Kucoin
- Binance
- Coinexchange
- Upcoin
- Bitpaya
- Okex
- Huobi
- BitHumb
- GDAX
- Poloniex
- HitBtc
- Tidex
- Kuna
- ShapeShift
- CryptoBridge

Most of them if not all will require the Dev or one of the Devs team to apply for the exchange not a community member.
Which the dev team will not do because exchanges are bad and we want normal people to get bytes (only $12 of them though) through completing the verification that's only for technical people.
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February 08, 2018, 03:26:52 PM
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Any news on the march airdrop, I could really do with some good news!

AFAIK news about march airdrop will be released next week.

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February 08, 2018, 04:20:30 PM
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Any news on the march airdrop, I could really do with some good news!

AFAIK news about march airdrop will be released next week.

That's good news. Many are waiting anxiously for the next airdrop since it has been a long time from the last airdrop, November as I recall? The strategy for some of the big investors is to wait out the completion of the free distribution before making any serious investment.

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February 08, 2018, 04:54:04 PM
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Unfortunately the Byteball market @Cryptopia is still in the doldrums. So no Airdrop on my Byteballs locked there.

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February 08, 2018, 05:55:29 PM
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Byteball live stress test result:

https://byteball.slack.com/messages/C94JA33HD/
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February 08, 2018, 09:10:13 PM
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"See my procedure for verification that has failed many times due to users not doing the right thing is very user friendly because if you're intelligent you would have got it right and we only want technical people but we also want everyday users". If verification is so user friendly then why haven't we gotten more than ~250 Jumio attestations and why are there so many complaining about failure here and on Reddit?

Just 250 attestations? Where did you get that number? It is a dismally low figure and would indicate a failure in this method of distribution.
The air drop might be expensive, but it creates a buzz around the coin and definitely increases awareness.


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February 08, 2018, 09:22:53 PM
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any wallet for win 32 dev?
I have already download but win 64.
its not compatibel for 32bits.  Angry

Try this: https[Suspicious link removed].
This 32bit version works on my win64, you will be the first to try it in win32.

This project seems to have potential.
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February 08, 2018, 09:29:06 PM
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"See my procedure for verification that has failed many times due to users not doing the right thing is very user friendly because if you're intelligent you would have got it right and we only want technical people but we also want everyday users". If verification is so user friendly then why haven't we gotten more than ~250 Jumio attestations and why are there so many complaining about failure here and on Reddit?

Just 250 attestations? Where did you get that number? It is a dismally low figure and would indicate a failure in this method of distribution.
The air drop might be expensive, but it creates a buzz around the coin and definitely increases awareness.

I think you judge it too quickly. At the moment there is no real incentive to do the attestation, most people don't want to expose their ID for a few $. Once there is an interesting ICO on the platform that requires KYC to participate you can actually evaluate it. Perhaps Titan Coin will be it, perhaps not. Besides, as you can conclude from many posts here and on Reddit the process is far from streamlined and can be improved a lot to make it more user friendly.

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February 08, 2018, 10:39:21 PM
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"See my procedure for verification that has failed many times due to users not doing the right thing is very user friendly because if you're intelligent you would have got it right and we only want technical people but we also want everyday users". If verification is so user friendly then why haven't we gotten more than ~250 Jumio attestations and why are there so many complaining about failure here and on Reddit?

Just 250 attestations? Where did you get that number? It is a dismally low figure and would indicate a failure in this method of distribution.
The air drop might be expensive, but it creates a buzz around the coin and definitely increases awareness.

Checkout the stats here - https://byteball.fr/heartbeat.php
The number is 267 now, and it hasn't moved in a few days.

I must admit that it has been a failure. I had anticipated much more buzz and participation. Hopefully, we can keep this going and see if things improve closer to an ICO, but I guess it is time for the next experiment/distribution method, if any.
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"See my procedure for verification that has failed many times due to users not doing the right thing is very user friendly because if you're intelligent you would have got it right and we only want technical people but we also want everyday users". If verification is so user friendly then why haven't we gotten more than ~250 Jumio attestations and why are there so many complaining about failure here and on Reddit?

Just 250 attestations? Where did you get that number? It is a dismally low figure and would indicate a failure in this method of distribution.
The air drop might be expensive, but it creates a buzz around the coin and definitely increases awareness.

Checkout the stats here - https://byteball.fr/heartbeat.php
The number is 267 now, and it hasn't moved in a few days.

I must admit that it has been a failure. I had anticipated much more buzz and participation. Hopefully, we can keep this going and see if things improve closer to an ICO, but I guess it is time for the next experiment/distribution method, if any.

I didn't realise this was supposed to be a way of distributing bytes? I thought it was a new feature to increase the amount of use cases in which byteball is useful.. in which case its a nice feature that may (or may not) grow to be useful.

The thing is there has to be a reason to verify your ID. Many especially I guess in the crypto sphere value privacy so there has to be good reasons why you would do it and risk identidy fraud or whatever. For example I haven't yet trusted an exchange with copies of my passport..  So if you take the plunge. What can you do with it once you've done it? I'm not going to give my ID for 12 bucks unless it has further benefit to me. I guess I'm just asking what can you do with it once you've done it? 12 bucks is not an incentive.



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February 08, 2018, 11:36:43 PM
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Here is a possible list of exchanges we should contact together to list GBYTE. I, myself am fortunate enough to have a Bittrex account at the moment but others are not.

- YoBit
- Mercatox
- Kucoin
- Binance
- Coinexchange
- Upcoin
- Bitpaya
- Okex
- Huobi
- BitHumb
- GDAX
- Poloniex
- HitBtc
- Tidex
- Kuna
- ShapeShift
- CryptoBridge

Most of them if not all will require the Dev or one of the Devs team to apply for the exchange not a community member.

I don't understand the reluctance to get listed on more exchanges. Whats to lose?
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February 08, 2018, 11:42:08 PM
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Checkout the stats here - https://byteball.fr/heartbeat.php
The number is 267 now, and it hasn't moved in a few days.

I must admit that it has been a failure. I had anticipated much more buzz and participation. Hopefully, we can keep this going and see if things improve closer to an ICO, but I guess it is time for the next experiment/distribution method, if any.

man, that is bad but completely expected. you're asking people to hand over ID to total strangers and go through all that hassle for a few dollars' worth of byteball. to expect a decent number of people to want to do that, let alone go through with it, is risible. it would have to be several times more in value and even then i don't think most people would do it.

handing over ID is kryptonite here. it'll be done to get on the biggest exchanges. not for a tiny airdrop.

this is a resounding fail.

as a few posts above, if there was a super compelling project that required it then it might be considered worth it and it's great that a system like this is in place, but here and now if i were a newcomer to byteball i absolutely wouldn't do it for what's on offer.
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Thanks Michail, but I was referring to the ID verification for the referral system, as mentioned in this thread:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ByteBall/comments/7rtixn/byteball_id_verification_program_tutorial/

I don't remember all details of this initiative, this is why my post was not so precise, but I remember that when it was launched time ago I was at first VERY enthusiastic of it but then something in the technical process didn't work out properly and I've started to read of all the complains of people who were just losing their 8$ for the failed verification and I've postponed to deal with the issue until I forgot about it.

Thanks.
I agree with you.  I didn't realize there was such a big issue and that people are so willing to submit passports and drivers licenses.

Personally, I wouldn't sell my identification for $12.


Yeah, that's another good point, this is why I have skipped the Polymath airdrop, which I've heard was not bad as value, because they were requiring passport identification etc, which I had found very annoying. But I remember that with the Byteball issue is was not too annoying, since you basically would have to have just one wallet address linked to your identity, and not necessarily the one that you would usually use.

Yup, what's the use of cryptocurrencies when you have to voluntarily provide identification to authorities. Isn't PGP keys or crypto itself means to verify you're you.

It is a contradiction in our eyes, but of course not in the authorities' eyey, so we can expect that at some point new laws will make mandatory for people to associate their identity to their wallets in all cryptocurrencies.

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