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February 05, 2018, 10:54:23 AM
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The question for Byteball is: should we try and make this process kid-proof? My opinion is that we should not. Working with contracts is something for adults. Of course the process should be as easy as possible and the explanation of the terms and conditions should be clear, but totally kid-proofing it seems near impossible and not necessary.


There is no way to block 'kids' from investing or even trying to claim free tokens.  'Kids' can also be mentally slow adults.  I see a bunch of people complain about Byteball (and all other projects as well), simply because they have no damn clue as to what they're doing.  They read what they want and ignore everything else.  So, when they can't figure out how they just spent $8, they complain the project is at fault and ignore what the transition bot said.  It's simply amazing how many of those 'kids' have no idea what a change address is or how to move coins but actually have coins to even move (without having lost them).  Almost as amazing is how many of those people have $100 worth of coin and willing to pay an $8 transaction, but complain that they haven't received $1000 worth of free coin.  They just simply have no clue and almost no amount of coaching will every help them or even change their mind that something is good or bad, because they've already made the decision in their head that it can't be their fault for having not followed directions.


From what I see surfing around the crypto world is that "having no clue" of what this is all about is becoming a general rule.
A few know what this is about while the vast majority still sees the crypto world as the get rich quick scheme they love. At the end of the day they rather get poor quick.

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February 05, 2018, 11:07:31 AM
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Tell me where to find information to restore access to your wallet? if it was crashing Windows?
Your app directory "byteball" is located in "%appdata%/../Local" save it but it is better to use the backup-function in the wallet.

if I kept Byteball folder in Program files x86, then your wallet with tokens will not restore?

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February 05, 2018, 11:23:43 AM
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Tell me where to find information to restore access to your wallet? if it was crashing Windows?
Your app directory "byteball" is located in "%appdata%/../Local" save it but it is better to use the backup-function in the wallet.

if I kept Byteball folder in Program files x86, then your wallet with tokens will not restore?

%appdata%/../Local  is location  where info on your personal "funds" is. Program files directory keeps common files nessesary to launch client. So all you need to keep you funds safe is to backup that  byteball folder in "%appdata%/../Local", nothing else
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February 05, 2018, 11:23:54 AM
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I was not aware of the Byteball wallet on Cyptopia being offline. How long has it been offline already?

As far as I am aware, more than a month already. They upgraded the wallet to 2.0 (it was still 1.7 when they started to look into the withdrawal issues) but apparently the issues have still not been resolved yet. Hopefully Tony can lend a hand.

Cryptopia is having a few problems lately, it seems, also as it regards its relations with New Zealand banks, let's hope this exchange will not crumble. But Byteball would absolutely benefit of being in least another major exchange.

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February 05, 2018, 11:24:04 AM
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what's the discord of byteball?
or slack?
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February 05, 2018, 12:07:27 PM
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what's the discord of byteball?
or slack?

http://slack.byteball.org/

Byteball payment gateway for web merchants https://byteball-for-merchants.com/ - BEEB  (Blackbytes Exchange Bot): https://www.beeb-bot.com/ (closed)
Network map, stats, Top Richests and Byteball world map at https://byteball.fr/ (closed) - Hub operator featuring the cashback witness https://byteball-cashback-witness.com (closed)
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February 05, 2018, 12:16:31 PM
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It's a shame that I lost all my money, couldn't properly save your wallet ((( sad

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February 05, 2018, 12:25:50 PM
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thanks.
no discord ?
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February 05, 2018, 12:41:27 PM
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Vote for the byteball on the new exchange. It has not started yet, but it will start soon, it will poll users. https://bitindia.co/vote.html
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February 05, 2018, 02:38:52 PM
Last edit: February 05, 2018, 02:56:59 PM by Alcibiades Agnes
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Definitely Babe will be a good and attractive name for the coin,how many Babes do you have Smiley? Nano was a good rebrand for RailBlocks

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"Tony's Balls" sounds even better  Grin or

"Giga Ball" or
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"Ball Coin" or
"Dag Ball" or "_____ ball"

it is about balls  Grin

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February 05, 2018, 02:59:40 PM
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Definitely Babe will be a good and attractive name for the coin,how many Babes do you have Smiley? Nano was a good rebrand for RailBlocks

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"Tony's Balls" sounds even better  Grin or

"Giga Ball" or
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"Ball Coin" or
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it is about balls  Grin



babeball  best
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February 05, 2018, 05:31:45 PM
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No there is no.

Byteball payment gateway for web merchants https://byteball-for-merchants.com/ - BEEB  (Blackbytes Exchange Bot): https://www.beeb-bot.com/ (closed)
Network map, stats, Top Richests and Byteball world map at https://byteball.fr/ (closed) - Hub operator featuring the cashback witness https://byteball-cashback-witness.com (closed)
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February 05, 2018, 06:07:59 PM
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The question for Byteball is: should we try and make this process kid-proof? My opinion is that we should not. Working with contracts is something for adults. Of course the process should be as easy as possible and the explanation of the terms and conditions should be clear, but totally kid-proofing it seems near impossible and not necessary.


There is no way to block 'kids' from investing or even trying to claim free tokens.  'Kids' can also be mentally slow adults.  I see a bunch of people complain about Byteball (and all other projects as well), simply because they have no damn clue as to what they're doing.  They read what they want and ignore everything else.  So, when they can't figure out how they just spent $8, they complain the project is at fault and ignore what the transition bot said.  It's simply amazing how many of those 'kids' have no idea what a change address is or how to move coins but actually have coins to even move (without having lost them).  Almost as amazing is how many of those people have $100 worth of coin and willing to pay an $8 transaction, but complain that they haven't received $1000 worth of free coin.  They just simply have no clue and almost no amount of coaching will every help them or even change their mind that something is good or bad, because they've already made the decision in their head that it can't be their fault for having not followed directions.

No, these are reasonable users that the project is driving away by being asinine. Why on earth should users not be refunded when a project-sponsored verification fails do to technical reasons? And why is it a goal of this project to make everything user-unfriendly as possible while making public no plans for improvement? The market's trust in this project is fading because of poor leadership attitudes and I say that as someone with a lot of GB. Tony doesn't seem to care about the price of GB nor the market perception, saying exchanges and "traders" are unnecessary.

Also, will there or will there not be an aidrop in March? What will happen with all the remaining bytes?
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February 05, 2018, 06:45:11 PM
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Why Tony should care about the price? Why is that relevant?
I think he has made a few mistakes regarding the distribution model but sure as hell I won't judge him. He created Byteball out of nothing and he asked nothing from us.
I don't get why you guys keep on whining about this.

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February 05, 2018, 07:26:33 PM
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So, the first mistake you made was to NOT make a full backup.  That is the biggest mistake you could make and negates everything else in terms of blaming someone else for your problem.

True.
I do not blame anybody but myself. I assumed that a SEED backup was enough.
It is, but not for blackbytes.

I have a lot of different cryptos, but most of them are stored on my ledger nano hardware wallets and the seed is protected with multiple cryptosteels.
All other are backed up with encrypted wallets on multiple devices and locations.

Byteball was the "only" special one -> SEED, but not enough to recover all assets.

Since you had your seed, you knew up front that a backup of a seed only would only restore bytes (not blackbytes), as it tells you exactly that during the seed backup (and recovery).

I store all my SEEDs within Keepass. And the byteball seed was created a long time ago -> e.g. I just forgot the disclaimer about blackbytes.

Why would you delete your appdata (wallet folder) just because of a one time error?  That's another mistake (second) in that even if the wallet has a problem, it can be fixed.  So, a backup (simply moving the folder) is preferred to deleting and then hoping to magically get the funds to reappear.

Why? Delete the appdata folder was to ensure that I can install the new version without old artifacts that could cause trouble and backup with the SEED.

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February 05, 2018, 08:45:47 PM
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The airdrop in march: will it be the last one? Or will more airdrops follow?

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February 05, 2018, 09:10:14 PM
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The airdrop in march: will it be the last one? Or will more airdrops follow?

No one knows.

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February 05, 2018, 09:39:10 PM
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The airdrop in march: will it be the last one? Or will more airdrops follow?

No one knows.

Guess Tony knows... Wink

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February 06, 2018, 06:39:30 AM
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The airdrop in march: will it be the last one? Or will more airdrops follow?

The decision about the next airdrop will be published soon.

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February 06, 2018, 08:41:45 AM
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Question regarding the Airdrop:
I've moved my BTC to a segwit address (starting with 3..). The chatbot gives me the following response:
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Only P2PKH addresses (those that start with 1) can sign messages. You can prove ownership of xyz only by microtransaction.
My question is: How can I make such a transaction? What is the address that I've to send to?
Has anyone successfully registered a segwit address with a micro transaction and can give me some guidance? I've checked the Byteball Wiki but couldn't find the answer there.
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