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February 09, 2018, 01:23:37 AM
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Okay now I am confused a bit, I thought textcoin and this Jumio thing were the same process, but it sounds like it is not? Because I sent my friend a little bit in textcoin and he received it super quick without doing anything. Could somebody please explain to me how these two are different, cause I thought they were in the same until I saw this discussion now Grin. Thanks in advance
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February 09, 2018, 03:03:07 AM
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Okay now I am confused a bit, I thought textcoin and this Jumio thing were the same process, but it sounds like it is not? Because I sent my friend a little bit in textcoin and he received it super quick without doing anything. Could somebody please explain to me how these two are different, cause I thought they were in the same until I saw this discussion now Grin. Thanks in advance

From my Understanding, Textcoin came before Jumio, textcoin allows you to send coins via email to anyone, hence textcoin (you already know  having used it) - Jumio deal, from my understanding, is strictly for KYC verification, the idea is that ICO's would use the GBYTE network cuz its KYC compliant, and that verified Gbyte users would have access to less spammy/scammy ICOs.

so this whole Jumio verification is so that Gbyte users can have KYC compliant ICOs... (something along those lines)

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February 09, 2018, 05:25:48 AM
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Okay now I am confused a bit, I thought textcoin and this Jumio thing were the same process, but it sounds like it is not? Because I sent my friend a little bit in textcoin and he received it super quick without doing anything. Could somebody please explain to me how these two are different, cause I thought they were in the same until I saw this discussion now Grin. Thanks in advance

From my Understanding, Textcoin came before Jumio, textcoin allows you to send coins via email to anyone, hence textcoin (you already know  having used it) - Jumio deal, from my understanding, is strictly for KYC verification, the idea is that ICO's would use the GBYTE network cuz its KYC compliant, and that verified Gbyte users would have access to less spammy/scammy ICOs.

so this whole Jumio verification is so that Gbyte users can have KYC compliant ICOs... (something along those lines)

if anyone wants to clear up any confusion...

That is correct. I would also add that verification by Jumio is one of the new distribution methods. Once you are verified, you get a small amount of bytes ($20 worth, which should cover the $8 required for Jumio verification). If you refer somebody and they complete verification, you get $20 worth of byteball as well.


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February 09, 2018, 06:22:15 AM
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City of Taipei Confirms It's Testing IOTA Tech for ID


https://www.coindesk.com/city-of-taipei-confirms-its-testing-iota-blockchain-for-id/

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February 09, 2018, 08:40:07 AM
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Suirelav (Byteball subreddit moderator) released his new recap article on Medium yesterday.
Most of you probably already know everything in it, still worth a read in my opinion.

https://medium.com/@Suirelav/byteball-whats-happening-february-2018-b764dd7b776c

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A person's reaction to the Jumio issue may depend on whether they have already encountered Jumio. For example, anyone who has a verified account on Bittrex or Uphold has already taken the plunge and given Jumio their identity details. Like some other commenters, I find the notion of centralized ID-proving to be at odds with the goals of crypto. It's a process that is easily exploited by would-be totalitarian entities. However, it has become a fact of modern life. Whether it will become "normal for everyone" or be "rejected by the masses" remains to be seen.

You may know the name John Perry Barlow, who died yesterday. He spent much of his life trying to keep Big Brother's hands off the Net. "Barlow’s lasting legacy is that he devoted his life to making the Internet into “a world that all may enter without privilege or prejudice accorded by race, economic power, military force, or station of birth . . . a world where anyone, anywhere may express his or her beliefs, no matter how singular, without fear of being coerced into silence or conformity.”"

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/02/john-perry-barlow-internet-pioneer-1947-2018

Yet here we are.

I can see both sides of the Jumio issue. Tony's (and Jumio's) notion of proving identity to strangers without giving them identity details has some appeal, but it requires a trusted third party (Jumio, in this case) which can potentially leak or be hacked. So far, I'm not persuaded to link any Byteball account(s) I may or may not have with Jumio, but I'm watching with interest.              Smiley
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February 09, 2018, 03:10:22 PM
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A person's reaction to the Jumio issue may depend on whether they have already encountered Jumio. For example, anyone who has a verified account on Bittrex or Uphold has already taken the plunge and given Jumio their identity details. Like some other commenters, I find the notion of centralized ID-proving to be at odds with the goals of crypto. It's a process that is easily exploited by would-be totalitarian entities. However, it has become a fact of modern life. Whether it will become "normal for everyone" or be "rejected by the masses" remains to be seen.

You may know the name John Perry Barlow, who died yesterday. He spent much of his life trying to keep Big Brother's hands off the Net. "Barlow’s lasting legacy is that he devoted his life to making the Internet into “a world that all may enter without privilege or prejudice accorded by race, economic power, military force, or station of birth . . . a world where anyone, anywhere may express his or her beliefs, no matter how singular, without fear of being coerced into silence or conformity.”"

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/02/john-perry-barlow-internet-pioneer-1947-2018

Yet here we are.

I can see both sides of the Jumio issue. Tony's (and Jumio's) notion of proving identity to strangers without giving them identity details has some appeal, but it requires a trusted third party (Jumio, in this case) which can potentially leak or be hacked. So far, I'm not persuaded to link any Byteball account(s) I may or may not have with Jumio, but I'm watching with interest.              Smiley


Good points.

Identifying is voluntary and should stay that way. It's useful for people who want to interact with companies that require to know (certain aspects of) the identity of their customers, for whatever reason (could be legal, e.g. in the case of ICO's).

I agree tho that the fundamental strength of crypto is it's total independance of any regulatory agency.

Still there will be points where this free world and the regulated world meet. I for one have no issue with interacting with regulated entities (like Bittrex, where I have a verified account), so I welcome this option.

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February 09, 2018, 06:55:32 PM
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A person's reaction to the Jumio issue may depend on whether they have already encountered Jumio. For example, anyone who has a verified account on Bittrex or Uphold has already taken the plunge and given Jumio their identity details. Like some other commenters, I find the notion of centralized ID-proving to be at odds with the goals of crypto. It's a process that is easily exploited by would-be totalitarian entities. However, it has become a fact of modern life. Whether it will become "normal for everyone" or be "rejected by the masses" remains to be seen.

You may know the name John Perry Barlow, who died yesterday. He spent much of his life trying to keep Big Brother's hands off the Net. "Barlow’s lasting legacy is that he devoted his life to making the Internet into “a world that all may enter without privilege or prejudice accorded by race, economic power, military force, or station of birth . . . a world where anyone, anywhere may express his or her beliefs, no matter how singular, without fear of being coerced into silence or conformity.”"

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/02/john-perry-barlow-internet-pioneer-1947-2018

Yet here we are.

I can see both sides of the Jumio issue. Tony's (and Jumio's) notion of proving identity to strangers without giving them identity details has some appeal, but it requires a trusted third party (Jumio, in this case) which can potentially leak or be hacked. So far, I'm not persuaded to link any Byteball account(s) I may or may not have with Jumio, but I'm watching with interest.              Smiley


I'm having a similar position on the issue. I am not totally against of handling of my data to a reliable part for reasons of identification which could benefit ME in the future. I cannot see as a problem the fact that ONE of my Byteball addresses would be linked to my person, since I would never use it except in very specific cases in which I NEED to prove to be me. However, I am also not in a hurry to hand over my data until it is clear which convenience I have - the few dollars are not really such a compelling reason, especially for someone who already has a lot of Gigabytes. Moreover, if the Jumio procedure is likely to fail for technical problems, as so many have already reported, a fact which would make you even lose money, then you understand why only a couple od hundreds of people have successfuly gone though the process so far.

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February 09, 2018, 10:17:56 PM
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Cryptopia has been locking GBYTE for at least 2 months now.

Today I filed a 2nd ticket demanding that they release users' GBYTE.

I encourage you to do the same.

Stealing the time value of money is one thing, but if we get to the March distro and Cryptopia is still locking users' funds, it will be a massive financial crime. (Yes I know exchanges are scummy and steal from users all the time).
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February 09, 2018, 10:31:06 PM
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I would phrase it otherwise but the lockup (and market freeze) at Cryptopia is indeed becoming rather unfortunate.

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February 09, 2018, 11:19:59 PM
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Is there an easy way to convert BlackByteballs into Byteballs? I read about a bot directly in the client which let someone convert B to BB. But I could not find a tutorial how I do it. Any help on this?
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February 10, 2018, 12:26:53 AM
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Cryptopia has been locking GBYTE for at least 2 months now.

Today I filed a 2nd ticket demanding that they release users' GBYTE.

I encourage you to do the same.

Stealing the time value of money is one thing, but if we get to the March distro and Cryptopia is still locking users' funds, it will be a massive financial crime. (Yes I know exchanges are scummy and steal from users all the time).

Rule number one. Never trust an exchange as a safe place to store coins.
Rule number two. See rule number one. 
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February 10, 2018, 12:41:53 AM
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Cryptopia has been locking GBYTE for at least 2 months now.

Today I filed a 2nd ticket demanding that they release users' GBYTE.

I encourage you to do the same.

Stealing the time value of money is one thing, but if we get to the March distro and Cryptopia is still locking users' funds, it will be a massive financial crime. (Yes I know exchanges are scummy and steal from users all the time).

Rule number one. Never trust an exchange as a safe place to store coins.
Rule number two. See rule number one. 
What if I wanted to purchase some GBYTE and Cryptopia doesn't let me withdraw. Tony really needs to begin sorting out exchange issues. The only reliable one we have is Bittrex and they are closed to newcomers.

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February 10, 2018, 01:15:40 AM
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Cryptopia has been locking GBYTE for at least 2 months now.

Today I filed a 2nd ticket demanding that they release users' GBYTE.

I encourage you to do the same.

Stealing the time value of money is one thing, but if we get to the March distro and Cryptopia is still locking users' funds, it will be a massive financial crime. (Yes I know exchanges are scummy and steal from users all the time).

Rule number one. Never trust an exchange as a safe place to store coins.
Rule number two. See rule number one. 
What if I wanted to purchase some GBYTE and Cryptopia doesn't let me withdraw. Tony really needs to begin sorting out exchange issues. The only reliable one we have is Bittrex and they are closed to newcomers.

Yes, this has been dragging on far too long. Will also raise a ticket.

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February 10, 2018, 01:28:14 AM
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Many people would like to see a name change so Byteball will be interesting to a broader audience of potential users. You can informally vote here (follow link in text post): https://www.reddit.com/r/ByteBall/comments/7we36c/should_the_byteball_name_be_changed_please_vote/
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February 10, 2018, 01:52:51 AM
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Quite an interesting idea of the project GBYTE itself, but on the principle of how they started and how high the price was before - I do not think that I will be able to return to the previous level

Unless a coin dies, which of course can happen, or history proves that at some point, sooner or later, limited supply and rising user base leads every coin to reach its ATH again. And Byteball is a very good coin, unique and for sure won't die. So...

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February 10, 2018, 05:10:20 AM
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Is there an easy way to convert BlackByteballs into Byteballs? I read about a bot directly in the client which let someone convert B to BB. But I could not find a tutorial how I do it. Any help on this?

http://www.beeb-bot.com/help.php
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February 10, 2018, 07:34:04 AM
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Cryptopia has been locking GBYTE for at least 2 months now.

Today I filed a 2nd ticket demanding that they release users' GBYTE.

I encourage you to do the same.

Stealing the time value of money is one thing, but if we get to the March distro and Cryptopia is still locking users' funds, it will be a massive financial crime. (Yes I know exchanges are scummy and steal from users all the time).

This is really worrying. If you fail to withdraw your coins in time for the airdrop and the exchange gets the airdrop, they might still find an excuse to retain your coins. But if they prevent you from withdrawing your coins in time for the airdrop, I would call that an outright scam.


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February 10, 2018, 01:25:53 PM
Last edit: February 10, 2018, 01:38:07 PM by julian071
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Cryptopia has been locking GBYTE for at least 2 months now.

Today I filed a 2nd ticket demanding that they release users' GBYTE.

I encourage you to do the same.

Stealing the time value of money is one thing, but if we get to the March distro and Cryptopia is still locking users' funds, it will be a massive financial crime. (Yes I know exchanges are scummy and steal from users all the time).

This is really worrying. If you fail to withdraw your coins in time for the airdrop and the exchange gets the airdrop, they might still find an excuse to retain your coins. But if they prevent you from withdrawing your coins in time for the airdrop, I would call that an outright scam.

IF there is another airdrop (which I doubt there will be, at least in that form), the exchange's Byteball-address will be excluded. So as the exchange has nothing to gain, calling it a scam is not correct. It's just negligence. Extremely stupid, because the reputation of an exchange is all important. I for one will never ever do business there again. Luckily I don't have any coins there anymore.

Edit: also opened a ticket there to help out.

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February 10, 2018, 05:19:48 PM
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IF there is another airdrop (which I doubt there will be, at least in that form), the exchange's Byteball-address will be excluded. So as the exchange has nothing to gain, calling it a scam is not correct. It's just negligence. Extremely stupid, because the reputation of an exchange is all important. I for one will never ever do business there again. Luckily I don't have any coins there anymore.

Edit: also opened a ticket there to help out.

Thanks for opening a ticket.

Each user on Cryptopia has their own Byteball deposit address. So in order to exclude them, Byteball would need a list of all of those addresses, or some successful investigative work to figure out exactly what those addresses are.

Also, exchanges have not been excluded from airdrops in the past, afaik.

In any case, stealing the time value of money IS a scam. Byteball is not an obscure coin or a coin with tech problems.

Exchanges are making money hand over fist, and yet they do everything possible to STEAL more. It's the height of greed and evil really.
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