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February 26, 2012, 03:41:15 PM
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Actually, the correct answer is to watch your hash rate after an LP (get a good cgminer monitoring tool)
If the rate isn't dropping, then it doesn't matter, cgminer is expecting more than it needs.
If the rate drops at all, yes blame the pool for "not providing work fast enough"

Well, see that's why it throws a tantrum.  CGMiner can/should differentiate between the two distinct problems and provide a different message. 

Additionally why do you need a separate tool to do that?  Isn't that built into the display already?

If you're searching these lines for a point, you've probably missed it.  There was never anything there in the first place.
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February 26, 2012, 09:05:28 PM
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Actually, the correct answer is to watch your hash rate after an LP (get a good cgminer monitoring tool)
If the rate isn't dropping, then it doesn't matter, cgminer is expecting more than it needs.
If the rate drops at all, yes blame the pool for "not providing work fast enough"

Well, see that's why it throws a tantrum.  CGMiner can/should differentiate between the two distinct problems and provide a different message. 

Additionally why do you need a separate tool to do that?  Isn't that built into the display already?
Unless you are really bored and like watching numbers while waiting hours for many LPs to happen, a reliable graph of that is going to show if a pattern exists.

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February 26, 2012, 09:16:18 PM
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I've been experimenting with the Eclipse pool and noticed something funny.  The FAQ says there are no fees but the "Cash Out" button on the Account part of the web site says, "A 10% fee has been already been deducted from the displayed total." when I hover over it.

Are there no fees or is there a 10% fee?  I'm not going to PayPal, just my BTC wallet.

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February 26, 2012, 10:00:47 PM
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I've been experimenting with the Eclipse pool and noticed something funny.  The FAQ says there are no fees but the "Cash Out" button on the Account part of the web site says, "A 10% fee has been already been deducted from the displayed total." when I hover over it.

Are there no fees or is there a 10% fee?  I'm not going to PayPal, just my BTC wallet.
There is no fee for using the pool, if you want your btc converted to usd with paypay there is a fee.
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February 26, 2012, 10:13:49 PM
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I've been experimenting with the Eclipse pool and noticed something funny.  The FAQ says there are no fees but the "Cash Out" button on the Account part of the web site says, "A 10% fee has been already been deducted from the displayed total." when I hover over it.

Are there no fees or is there a 10% fee?  I'm not going to PayPal, just my BTC wallet.
There is no fee for using the pool, if you want your btc converted to usd with paypay there is a fee.

The paypal fee just covers paypal costs. There is also a fee on any unconfirmed funds to give Inaba some protection against any of the unconfirmed funds being from a block that ends up being invalid.
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February 26, 2012, 10:27:01 PM
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So is there some point where I can take BTC payment to my wallet without the 10% fee?

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February 26, 2012, 10:27:48 PM
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So is there some point where I can take BTC payment to my wallet without the 10% fee?
After 120 confirmations.

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February 26, 2012, 11:11:38 PM
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OK, I was just being my usual impatient self.  I'll wait for the "Pay Me" button to appear when my balance becomes confirmed.

Having the "Pay Me" button visible but grayed out would be more intuitive than having it invisible like it is.  I was left wondering when/how to collect my mined BTC.

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February 27, 2012, 12:16:56 AM
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Err, it should be greyed out, not invisible.  Are you saying you don't see 4 grey buttons below the pay me option?

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February 27, 2012, 12:19:08 AM
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Err, it should be greyed out, not invisible.  Are you saying you don't see 4 grey buttons below the pay me option?

I think he's imagining that there is an actual "pay me" button which in fact does not exist.  Maybe he doesn't realize that the 4 different buttons offer 4 different payout options.
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February 27, 2012, 12:23:25 AM
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Err, it should be greyed out, not invisible.  Are you saying you don't see 4 grey buttons below the pay me option?
I don't see the words "pay me" anywhere on the web site.  The only button I see is "Cash Out"

I should say that I don't have any confirmed BTC yet, only unconfirmed since I only just started on this pool.

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February 27, 2012, 02:58:59 AM
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When I joined, the buttons didn't show up until 120 confirmations, but at that point I was doing merged and namecoins showed up faster so it didn't take too long.  The change to always show them had already been made, but I assumed the issue was with my browser and not the page itself.  As long as there were NMC or BTC, two buttons were grey and two were red.  When there were NMC and BTC, all four were red.  When I pulled out all NMC and BTC, they disappeared again (still happens, confirmed today).
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February 27, 2012, 04:43:14 AM
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Ah... yeah, looking at the code, I see that it will make the buttons go poof if there is no balance on either NMC or BTC. 

Hrmmm that bit of code is really ugly; you'd be surprised how hard it is to get the button to go grey or red depending on conditions.  I will see what I can do about rectifying that, though... if nothing else, I'll have it display a message informing you that you have to wait.

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March 01, 2012, 01:28:38 AM
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I am pointing my 5 Icarus test boards at your pool now via us2.eclipsemc.com. Ping times are about 220ms from over here in Hong Kong.

I noticed some old post talking about pacrim.eclipsemc.com, but it seems to resolve to the same IP address.

Do you still run a server for Asia?
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March 01, 2012, 02:05:44 AM
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Not currently ... there seems to be a serious lack of cheap webhosts that are reliable.  I'm still evaluating the options, but its' taken a back burner to other issues lately.

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March 01, 2012, 02:12:46 AM
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I also wouldn't know any web hoster around here, I always used US hosters. Local hosters are mostly GoDaddy's with rip off prices. And dedicated lines are cheap and reliable in HK, many companies host in-house.

Would a cheap EC2 instance in Singapore or Tokyo work, or is this overkill for the few miners in Asia?

My setup seems to work fine now.

Edit: Not that EC2 would change anything probably, a ping to one of my EC2 instances in Singapore is also around 200ms, same as for your servers in the US.
Correction (seems I need another coffee): A ping round trip from HK to SG to my EC2 instance is 43ms right now.
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March 01, 2012, 04:57:24 PM
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I tried EC2 a long time ago and had a lot of stability issues.  I have, however, made a lot of changes to the backend since then, and perhaps it's time to revisit the possibilities there.

I will try to look into that this week.

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March 01, 2012, 11:55:34 PM
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Thought you guys might want to see this.  http://www.chiphell.com/thread-333027-1-1.html
7990 pics, not sure if its real. It looks real to me though.
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March 01, 2012, 11:58:08 PM
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Looks kinda fake and/or pre-rendered to me.  Seems the placement of the two GPUs would be problematical from a heat perspective as well, but maybe not.

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March 02, 2012, 05:17:18 PM
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Hey Inaba! You did an huge improvement from the 50GH/s we were getting time ago and the 422GH/s we have now!

I've been inactive in the Bitcoin scene Tongue

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