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June 01, 2013, 10:12:59 AM |
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To all people complaining Batch #2 will have a negative roi remember that you always have the option of selling it for more than 10k$. This way you will instantly get your money back then you can go buy some BFL shit or go and spend them on hookers in order to be more relaxed.But IMO Batch #2 will get a positive roi very fast.
Edit: SolarSilver i don't know how you got 2.3 BTC per day. My calculator tells me 2.81 BTC per day right now (there are some Batch #2 units hashing as we speak). At 13.5 mil diff you get 2.5 BTC per day. I get 2.3 BTC per day at 14.5 mil diff.
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DrG
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June 01, 2013, 10:13:12 AM |
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I'll happily pay any Batch 2 owner their BTC cost + 10 BTC + shipping cost for their unit. I tried repeatedly to get a Batch 2 and failed (either thanks to Walletbit's failures or having to be at work). Eventually had to settle for Batch 3.
Yes the difficulty will be much higher than what was promised but it still supports the BTC network. Look at the other options - pricey ASICMiner or BFL backlog.
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SolarSilver
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June 01, 2013, 10:47:19 AM |
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Edit: SolarSilver i don't know how you got 2.3 BTC per day. My calculator tells me 2.81 BTC per day right now (there are some Batch #2 units hashing as we speak). At 13.5 mil diff you get 2.5 BTC per day. I get 2.3 BTC per day at 14.5 mil diff.
Well, as the owner of 3 Avalons batch #1 that are running in various configurations I just looked at the real life stats and that is how much 1 Avalon running @ 71 GH/s brought in yesterday. This is real life, with network delays, pool variance and DDOS, full moon, the whole works. Not your theoretical hypothetical model. As for the prices of the Batch #2.1 and Batch #2.2, I have several units of each on order. I also have a batch #3 unit on order. No guesswork, but real figures.
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RoadStress
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June 01, 2013, 12:30:38 PM |
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Edit: SolarSilver i don't know how you got 2.3 BTC per day. My calculator tells me 2.81 BTC per day right now (there are some Batch #2 units hashing as we speak). At 13.5 mil diff you get 2.5 BTC per day. I get 2.3 BTC per day at 14.5 mil diff.
Well, as the owner of 3 Avalons batch #1 that are running in various configurations I just looked at the real life stats and that is how much 1 Avalon running @ 71 GH/s brought in yesterday. This is real life, with network delays, pool variance and DDOS, full moon, the whole works. Not your theoretical hypothetical model. As for the prices of the Batch #2.1 and Batch #2.2, I have several units of each on order. I also have a batch #3 unit on order. No guesswork, but real figures. All i can say is grats and happy mining! Send me a PM when your Batch #2.1 and #2.2 get you your so desired roi.
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SolarSilver
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June 01, 2013, 12:46:22 PM |
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All i can say is grats and happy mining! Send me a PM when your Batch #2.1 and #2.2 get you your so desired roi.
You can be sure I'll post pictures and report on the progress ;-) So far, the bet on Batch #1 has been a success, that will largely compensate for any loss of future batches (if any). But let's not forget that we are in here mostly to add value (security) to the bitcoin network to to secure it, and in order to keep hosting affordable in the future for everybody, the break even calculations after hosting and such are an important factor. After having mined with CPU, GPU, FPGA and now ASIC, I can only tell that any projections you make are assumptions and pose a maximum level, but due to real life events, the return is always lower, up to a point that for some people mine at a loss. Mining at a loss, while noble as it is, is in a way subsidizing Bitcoin, but it's not affordable in the long run. ASICs have lowered the price of mining a lot and will put it into the hands of many more, once prices will drop considerably
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neotrix
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June 02, 2013, 04:59:23 AM |
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Great News! Received DHL tracking for my Feb 17th order. Bad News! I have heard nothing about my Feb 3rd order's. Feb 17th order I did receive an order number for. Feb 3rd is the Walletbit purchase issue.
I am not sure how they are going to let people know about Walletbit orders. DHL tracking and all since they where never entered into the Avalon Store.
Yes I did open a support ticket on both Feb 3rd orders on Feb 4th. However, I received no reply.
All my orders where purchased as Guest.
Nice! That's great news. Btw -- sweet bike, what is that? Happy to hear you will receive the one of 17 th. My 2 avalons was ordered 2 feb with wallet bit prob...has been confirmed in past that it was ok...we are in June and no News. Now I'm seeing people who ordered 15 days after me get delivered... I feel lucky I got a reply 4 feb by avalon and walletbit...but since... As someone said we have no way to compaint, we can just wait... and cry
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June 02, 2013, 05:34:00 AM |
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Exactly my thought. This is a man that makes other people rich. Appreciate that and let us give him the time to make it happen.
Actually, batch 2 and 3 roi will be negative. I fail to see how they make other people rich. Themselves, maybe, with our money. It's impossible for batch 2 to have a negative roi! Batch 2 was paid 75 btc. Care to share your genius? Really simple math! With the difficulty going up around 30% a month, let's see... your 75 btc Avalon is likely to produce some 3btc/day on average in June so 3*30=90btc. That's your return plus 15 btc positive in one month! It really doesn't take a genius! What's wrong with you?
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vandordeak
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June 02, 2013, 12:14:52 PM |
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How can I contact Avalon? I'm moving in a few weeks and I am not sure my ordered batch3 miner will get here in time.
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SolarSilver
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June 02, 2013, 12:25:59 PM |
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How can I contact Avalon? I'm moving in a few weeks and I am not sure my ordered batch3 miner will get here in time.
You can open a ticket at http://support.avalon-asic.com/support/loginand in the subject make clear this is an urgent batch #3 issue, you are moving (not some other lame excuse) Perhaps make clear you have not sold your avalon to another party and that this is his new address as those kinds of requests are not honoured. Perhaps you can document the fact that you are moving? Good luck... not many have had a reply on their ticket though. But there is still enough time for them to catch up with the Batch #3 tickets... Still shipping Batch #2
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vandordeak
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June 02, 2013, 12:27:30 PM |
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How can I contact Avalon? I'm moving in a few weeks and I am not sure my ordered batch3 miner will get here in time.
You can open a ticket at http://support.avalon-asic.com/support/loginand in the subject make clear this is an urgent batch #3 issue, you are moving (not some other lame excuse) Perhaps make clear you have not sold your avalon to another party and that this is his new address as those kinds of requests are not honoured. Perhaps you can document the fact that you are moving? Good luck... not many have had a reply on their ticket though. But there is still enough time for them to catch up with the Batch #3 tickets... Still shipping Batch #2 thank you
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ailikun
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June 02, 2013, 12:31:51 PM |
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This is getting a little bit depressing. I have placed orders on avalon, bfl, and bitfury asic. But i believed in avalon the most. I hope they will atleast tell us something, in a few das time. This is what i was hoping for, a while ago.. I guess this, was just my dreams Ok guys, just relax. Yifu stated, that the trade-ins will be shipped before the 2-nd batch.
So heres the calculations:
1) 2 weeks is given to trade-in customers, so that people can send those fpga back.
2) Somewhere around 26april-5may, trade-in avalons will be shipped.
3) Somewhere around 5may-15may, second batch will be fully shipped.
4) 20may-1june, 3rd batch will be shipped.
it makes sense.
We are all in the same boat, so just relax, if youre gonna ask for 100 times, when will we receive our avalons, you wont receve them faster, you will just waste your nerves. -------------------------
And remember that bfl customers waited almost 1 year, and still didnt received anything.
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Komuto Herovato is definitely the chief engineer of bfl)
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iammagicmike
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June 03, 2013, 01:14:38 AM |
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I'd rather have my Avalon shipped sooner than have someone answering all of the support tickets. It sucks that the majority of support tickets are from people that constantly spam Avalon are preventing others from receiving the important support that they need, but there really is no easy way to fix this problem. I would just like to point you out that you have no evidence at all of what you are sayng, you only have yu fi's word. I have experience managing hundreds of tickets per day and i can assure you that a) it's not a problem b) you take as much as 2/3 seconds to detect "spammy" requests, or requests you would not lose time replying. The point is that they don't care, as simple as that. Anyway, how many units are they shipping? 3 per day? Just to keep the forum full of happy posts? Or what? Also, and this is a tricky question, where do these units comes from, since that their smt line is obliuvsly not online? (tadaaaa) and you have no evidence to counter. thanks for contributing.
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It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything.
LTC: LPGSryKuT2BaEcDBg6VWHwusXj5N8ynu3M
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June 03, 2013, 01:18:29 AM |
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Exactly my thought. This is a man that makes other people rich. Appreciate that and let us give him the time to make it happen.
Actually, batch 2 and 3 roi will be negative. I fail to see how they make other people rich. Themselves, maybe, with our money. It's impossible for batch 2 to have a negative roi! Batch 2 was paid 75 btc. Care to share your genius? I paid 52 btc for my batch 2. $1500 USD to BTC. I don't believe batch 2's roi will be negative.
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It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything.
LTC: LPGSryKuT2BaEcDBg6VWHwusXj5N8ynu3M
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June 03, 2013, 02:01:10 AM |
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Exactly my thought. This is a man that makes other people rich. Appreciate that and let us give him the time to make it happen.
Actually, batch 2 and 3 roi will be negative. I fail to see how they make other people rich. Themselves, maybe, with our money. It's impossible for batch 2 to have a negative roi! Batch 2 was paid 75 btc. Care to share your genius? I paid 52 btc for my batch 2. $1500 USD to BTC. I don't believe batch 2's roi will be negative. +1
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Wayne_Chang
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June 03, 2013, 02:28:49 AM |
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Exactly my thought. This is a man that makes other people rich. Appreciate that and let us give him the time to make it happen.
Actually, batch 2 and 3 roi will be negative. I fail to see how they make other people rich. Themselves, maybe, with our money. It's impossible for batch 2 to have a negative roi! Batch 2 was paid 75 btc. Care to share your genius? I paid 52 btc for my batch 2. $1500 USD to BTC. I don't believe batch 2's roi will be negative. +1 No matter whether the ROI is negative or positive. Can you accept a time sensitive product you bought delay again and again and again?
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Bowjob (OP)
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June 03, 2013, 08:16:46 AM |
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Perhaps, 2 more weeks™. A newsletter would be great.
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It seemed like a good idea at the time.
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June 03, 2013, 09:23:47 AM |
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Perhaps, 2 more weeks™. A newsletter would be great. This guy is so drunk now that he is about do die:
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Bowjob (OP)
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June 03, 2013, 10:24:16 AM |
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I'm a little tipsy at the moment. Wahh~ That is indeed me at the moment, lol.
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It seemed like a good idea at the time.
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Keninishna
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June 03, 2013, 11:59:34 AM |
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Hehe dhl is expecting to deliver my avalon but i wont be home for a few days to get it :/
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