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November 30, 2013, 02:21:31 AM
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November tracking numbers?

November deliveries?


Last time I checked I was at 'paid' again after being at 'in progress' yesterday.  Huh

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November 30, 2013, 02:32:05 AM
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Shoot! Neptune sold out? I never got to initiate my bank wire due to silly holiday rush. Sad


ditto sat down to order and blam...so sorry all gone

again with the china site in Chinese language they have...they probably will sell out the 2nd batch in 1 hour

(I'm not kidding there are a lot of people over there who are probably hanging on every word)

I mean KNC sold out in what 72hrs from just PREVIOUS CUSTOMERS whats gonna happen when you make a better mousetrap and the world shows up

(at least it will be a fair fight giant web server crashes)

oh well there is always my 900gh of monarch forced to update (no refunds) bfl orders...they will come thru right (falls off chair lmao I crack myself up)

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Yeah I'm very upset. We were talking one day last week about how awesome the next KNC miners will be but doubted anything will come out till late december. The next day, orders are up for neptune. I can't do wire transfers from my savings account so I had to quickly move funds to checking. 10 grand doesn't move fast. Especially with Thanksgiving being stuck right in the middle.
Terrible timing. They didn't give many a chance. Sad even if I were to pay in BTC, I don't have 10 grand ready at fire haha

So it's KnCs fault because you do not have your financial situation in order? lulz

My financial situation is perfectly in order. How suddenly out of nowhere opening $10,000 preorders for something on 2 days before Thanksgiving here in the US is something you can say is "not having my financial situation in order" is beyond comprehension. Who are you to judge? Hell, if you just have 10 grand ready to spend at a moment's notice, I'd say your financial situation is pretty terrible myself. But again, who am I to make such a statement about someone's personal financial situation.

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November 30, 2013, 02:33:08 AM
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Rumor goes there has been sabotage at the production facility
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November 30, 2013, 02:47:52 AM
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Rumor goes there has been sabotage at the production facility

Avenger avenging, being helped by the Avenger Initiative?

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Rumor goes there has been sabotage at the production facility

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Don't play innocent Cyper, we all know about your life of crime:
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November 30, 2013, 03:06:05 AM
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Shoot! Neptune sold out? I never got to initiate my bank wire due to silly holiday rush. Sad


ditto sat down to order and blam...so sorry all gone

again with the china site in Chinese language they have...they probably will sell out the 2nd batch in 1 hour

(I'm not kidding there are a lot of people over there who are probably hanging on every word)

I mean KNC sold out in what 72hrs from just PREVIOUS CUSTOMERS whats gonna happen when you make a better mousetrap and the world shows up

(at least it will be a fair fight giant web server crashes)

oh well there is always my 900gh of monarch forced to update (no refunds) bfl orders...they will come thru right (falls off chair lmao I crack myself up)

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Yeah I'm very upset. We were talking one day last week about how awesome the next KNC miners will be but doubted anything will come out till late december. The next day, orders are up for neptune. I can't do wire transfers from my savings account so I had to quickly move funds to checking. 10 grand doesn't move fast. Especially with Thanksgiving being stuck right in the middle.
Terrible timing. They didn't give many a chance. Sad even if I were to pay in BTC, I don't have 10 grand ready at fire haha

So it's KnCs fault because you do not have your financial situation in order? lulz

My financial situation is perfectly in order. How suddenly out of nowhere opening $10,000 preorders for something on 2 days before Thanksgiving here in the US is something you can say is "not having my financial situation in order" is beyond comprehension. Who are you to judge? Hell, if you just have 10 grand ready to spend at a moment's notice, I'd say your financial situation is pretty terrible myself. But again, who am I to make such a statement about someone's personal financial situation.

yeah its the sold out to "existing customers" in around 72hrs that is unnerving to me ..what about when they open the doors to "everybody" (NPR had a deal on bitcoin this am...now suddenly I'm not quite  the nut everyone assumed 1 week ago) ...and they have that full Chinese language www site  in place for a few months all ready to go....if china is nuts for btc they are going to go lunatic on mining machines imho (although with 2nd batch being in that 2nd batch with all that PH hitting the network....not sure I will buy...it is starting to look like an elephant doing a cannon ball in the pool difficulty rise wise...all at once all this PH hitting the network from everyone (assuming others ship) could have a miner "toasted" very quick from rising difiiculty not make ROI)

it is likely that they will sell out the 2nd batch in less then 72hrs imho assuming the web site can keep up at least if the past is any consideration ...if they took say paypal it probably would be 1 day sold out and/or credit cards (not sure if they will take cc or paypal when they open it to the masses anyone?)

but yeah thanksgiving and 72hr sold out to existing customers....I sure was blindsided by it...and under NORMAL conditions it takes usually 24hrs to have a wire xfer complete overseas or at least that is what my bank told me in the USA....so that cut the knees time wise off for a lot of folks ie get funds ready (my bank that may take a day from another bank or check) and then 1 day to wire xfer and of course have to wait till the main branch of the bank is open and the main guy is there (not likely say on day before thanksgiving or if you could wire xfer on the day after...wire xfer is not too common it seems...and solemnly tell you to use a credit card for protection..the bank people that is) all a real pain  for a lot of folk ..especially say if you had to have a line of credit approved by a higher up.. ...so yeah people we're diligent etc I think but considering they announced this TUES and the above bank open times and other issues  and Thurs banks we're closed...a lot of people like me expected to get more units on Friday after thanksgiving .....a bad thing in 20/20 hindsight....I was set to pull the trigger on 2 more for a total of 3 ....

in the future gonna have to play "survivalist" in ordering from KNC ....1) have $$$ or btc set aside if $$$ in the right account ready to go ..in cash in case you have to go to another bank to dig up someone who knows or has the power to do a wire xfer overseas..(yeah there really is only 1 person knows how at my bank and it took her 45 min to figure it out and get it done ..that is not an exaggeration)

2) stalk the KNC site for their flash announcements *usually like 8am usa time  3) bribe bitcoinrama for advance notice in forums with praise and bribes if possible 4)be  first in line to hit the trigger RUN to your bank to get the wire xfer thru with cash in a proper account ready to go with no holds on checks etc on the account..... if they are open or when they open...the bank that is

its always gonna be a "black Friday" sale at KNC from now on imho.... just saying  (the old build a better mousetrap and the world will beat a path to your door) boy is that apt

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November 30, 2013, 03:59:16 AM
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Wow Searing...that sucks...
I knew playing "Survivalist" was necessary when the upgrade boards went so fast...
what was it... three minutes...seven?
3 days for 1200 units was a-ot longer than I thought they would last...
KNC machines are like "unobtainium" now...
Stay @ the sharp & ready if you want a KNC machine...
The general public slots are most likely going to go just as fast...
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November 30, 2013, 04:10:43 AM
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Wow Searing...that sucks...
I knew playing "Survivalist" was necessary when the upgrade boards went so fast...
what was it... three minutes...seven?
3 days for 1200 units was a-ot longer than I thought they would last...
KNC machines are like "unobtainium" now...
Stay @ the sharp & ready if you want a KNC machine...
The general public slots are most likely going to go just as fast...
 Wink

and if BTC flies up before the public sale, no doubt the first batch customers will avg down and buy more Neptunes   Wink

That would probably push me to grab a couple too (just not looking forward to dealing with all that heat in the summer, more power lines, and gasp, become a full fledged miner)

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November 30, 2013, 04:20:21 AM
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Wow Searing...that sucks...
I knew playing "Survivalist" was necessary when the upgrade boards went so fast...
what was it... three minutes...seven?
3 days for 1200 units was a-ot longer than I thought they would last...
KNC machines are like "unobtainium" now...
Stay @ the sharp & ready if you want a KNC machine...
The general public slots are most likely going to go just as fast...
 Wink

ah well 1/3 the risk instead of 3 units with the 2 other brothers...just 1 unit split 3 ways

by the by how do you know it was 1200 units? or just a guess?

as to the 2nd batch not sure with the entire bitcoin population of china trying to jump on knc's www site
that will not be a fun time assuming it stays up....also not sure if that much equip all going out in a 2wk
period is good for ROI options ...miner is like toast in a couple months ROI wise...may not be worth the risk if it is 12500 usd

correct me if I know squat.... but seems with stuff before coming out from other places cointerra/hashfast/blackarrow even (gasp) bfl may be able to get stuff out by april ..well that seems like a lot of stuff dumping in market at same time....look at knc and bfl etc this fall if the price for btc was still 150 when I got the unit more or less anyway oct 18th ..at 25 coins so far I'd still be under water..at that price ..anyway more or less

and that mainly was competing with BFL's dump (by the by the shipping blog today Thanksgiving Day shows BFL (except for some jallys going out Monday) all CAUGHT UP on their stuff ..at least to the point they can ship from stock from the factory....backlog is cleared....for all their old generation units....now when bbb or ftc calls they can say"what do you mean ..it took a year but they got a miner go away"

but anyway I digress. But think about it I "supposedly" have 900gh from BFL in jan (it won't show using this as an example) ...if the KNC miner is 3x more then that and all the stuff dumping in the spring..is it really gonna do any better then IF someone got 900gh cards from BFL (assuming they existed) in jan and mined as a Neptune minning beginning  of april?

..seems a pain to take that jump on batch 2...under those conditions...lot of bang bandwidth wise this spring let me tell you
 

anyway my concerns

on the other hand with LTC at 40 bucks ..and you can get the equip now...maybe the tail end of this carnival ride is better ...you can get...and just ride on BTC's coat tails.

just saying the happy sound of geeks digging their former mining rigs to now mine bitcoin is probably confusing the neighbors (and or the elec company)

anyway might consider that 400 bucks a month was a lot of money before my Jupiter added to my expecaton madness ...could go mine LTC also

anyway you do what you can

I think I heard batch 2 Neptune to the masses will be $12,500 ..wonder if they will raise it to 15k due to the mad demand?

my 2c worth of rambling

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damn shame im not previous customer

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Wow Searing...that sucks...
I knew playing "Survivalist" was necessary when the upgrade boards went so fast...
what was it... three minutes...seven?
3 days for 1200 units was a-ot longer than I thought they would last...
KNC machines are like "unobtainium" now...
Stay @ the sharp & ready if you want a KNC machine...
The general public slots are most likely going to go just as fast...
 Wink

The upgrade units were a bad joke, the fact that rigs were modular and we were told we could upgrade them was key to many, yet most people never even saw them available or knew they were on sale until too late. I came home and it was done and dusted. Didn't even get an email about it. Not upgradable for me at all simply because I couldn't have seen them in time and they won't be available again..the new rigs aren't compatible even if they have spares to sell. Looks like most of the Oct rigs aren't upgradeable now due to that.

All they had to do with any of these items was give us a heads up roughly when they'd be available...then someone who already funded them with batch 1 would have the chance to make sure they had that 10k ready to spend. People with their finances in order don't leave large amounts sitting doing fuck all when it should be earning interest or working for them no matter what that ignoramus just said.

Allowing people to buy 10 that they won't actually use while others can't order one ...that's bad too. With a little thought they could have limited numbers per customer for a few days to give more people that "loyalty reward" instead of people sidestepping the whole thing to supply them to new folk for a profit.

I wonder if there's a different list for Chinese orders, the batch split in some way? Going to be a case of when in the day they are announced to some degree if now, China gets 1st dibs and they may all be gone by the time the rest of us wake up. Smiley
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November 30, 2013, 04:32:13 AM
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damn shame im not previous customer

again not sure about 2nd batch in April or so with all the expected demand (ie china) if I am gonna get another Neptune miner..too much too quick with other stuff in the pipeline

still imho (again correct me if 'm full of it)  1th unit making coin in Jan would with difficulty rise could be same coin generation as a 3th unit in April ie more or less the same amount of coin being made.....may be a hard way to make ROI.

so looking at big dump in spring of equipment then a slow down summer then another everyone in the boat in fall dump of equipment (this could get old quick)

not quite sure what to think of all this ...the last time I saw this many geeks try to all get into something at the same time was when digital watches came out...like lemmings to the sea we all drank the kool_aid...should start the bitcoin anon meetings now I guess (will be useful in the great crash back to 500 usd coins (just saying)

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November 30, 2013, 05:07:49 AM
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People with their finances in order don't leave large amounts sitting doing fuck all when it should be earning interest or working for them no matter what that ignoramus just said.


most previous customers have mined more than 10BTC..  many well over that.   Many have kept their BTC in a wallet as BTC itself was 'working for them' or at least still $$ in an exchange so they can easily buy back BTC when need be.

On your other point, you really wanted them to basically call up everyone one by one on the modules?? how long would that take?  Everyone was already a bit mad that they waited to make a few more and ship all at once instead of just ship what they had right away.

3 days on the Neptunes showed that KNC priced it a bit better than the modules so they didn't short change themselves. If they were $8000 they would of sold out in 10 mins


 

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November 30, 2013, 06:52:33 AM
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Had some pretty bad luck with my miner - found it offline with a smell of electric smoke in the air. After inspection, the smell originated from the control board's right fan - wtf? The fan fried and the control board won't power up, even after getting a new PSU/change of outlets.

A RMA was issued to be for two boards that previously wouldn't respond (three beagle flashes when they were hooked up), now it's the entire board. Shipped 6 boards and the control board out on the 29th for AM delivery on the 2th, hopefully they can turn it around quick.

Orama - Do they still have a good chunk of October RMA controller boards/modules available? I'd have absolutely loved to have an advance RMA program, where they could charge/auth a card or even hold some BTC while they process the RMA. Maybe they could also have some miners  running specifically for compensation due to lost time.

Sure sucks to not be mining with 6 boards  Sad

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Looks good I still don't know if they can compete with cointerra cosidering it was proven not a scam
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November 30, 2013, 07:13:35 AM
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Looks good I still don't know if they can compete with cointerra cosidering it was proven not a scam
For the love of god, your post makes me want to punch my screen.

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Looks good I still don't know if they can compete with cointerra cosidering it was proven not a scam
For the love of god, your post makes me want to punch my screen.
I got a good laugh...   so clueless...Knc has delivered two batches of merchandise, working at the tail of the third, and where is cointerra? I don't even see how you can call them "competition" at this point...


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November 30, 2013, 07:58:27 AM
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Don't tell them.  I regret telling a co-worker with a giant fucking ego.

why?  just rub his face into it and tell him he better go buy some HashCraps and ConTerras

or introduce him to Puppet and he will motherly tell him that thou shalt never ROI with miners

Was mostly referring to him just buying 5 btc @ $200.  Lucky sack of crap doesn't deserve to make a dime.  I'd like to scare him out somehow.  lol

There is something annoying about non-libertarians with giant ego's making money on something they don't understand.  Whereas I've mostly sunk my life into trying to learn about proper economics contrary to our currently accepted system.

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Don't tell them.  I regret telling a co-worker with a giant fucking ego.

why?  just rub his face into it and tell him he better go buy some HashCraps and ConTerras

or introduce him to Puppet and he will motherly tell him that thou shalt never ROI with miners

Was mostly referring to him just buying 5 btc @ $200.  Lucky sack of crap doesn't deserve to make a dime.  I'd like to scare him out somehow.  lol

There is something annoying about non-libertarians with giant ego's making money on something they don't understand.  Whereas I've mostly sunk my life into trying to learn about proper economics contrary to our currently accepted system.


Amen, brother. Economics is not such a dismal science when you read Menger and Von Mises Smiley But it does fail to factor for fortune favoring the foolish, which seems to be damn near universal.

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What I wonder is how can Phoenix keep his sanity when he spent what, about 40btcs, plus forwent probably another 20btcs that he could mine by selling his units and spending it already on neptunes. (Total 60*potential $40K = $2.4mil). And has pretty much nothing at the moment, with his november order being apparently delayed and uncertain future about neptunes and difficulty.
Kind of makes me glad that I don't have any more preorders and don't have to go through this.
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