Bitcoin Forum
November 22, 2017, 01:13:25 PM *
News: Latest stable version of Bitcoin Core: 0.15.1  [Torrent].
 
   Home   Help Search Donate Login Register  
Pages: « 1 ... 1124 1125 1126 1127 1128 1129 1130 1131 1132 1133 1134 1135 1136 1137 1138 1139 1140 1141 1142 1143 1144 1145 1146 1147 1148 1149 1150 1151 1152 1153 1154 1155 1156 1157 1158 1159 1160 1161 1162 1163 1164 1165 1166 1167 1168 1169 1170 1171 1172 1173 [1174] 1175 1176 1177 1178 1179 1180 1181 1182 1183 1184 1185 1186 1187 1188 1189 1190 1191 1192 1193 1194 1195 1196 1197 1198 1199 1200 1201 1202 1203 1204 1205 1206 1207 1208 1209 1210 1211 1212 1213 1214 1215 1216 1217 1218 1219 1220 1221 1222 1223 1224 ... 2138 »
  Print  
Author Topic: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com  (Read 3011571 times)
blastbob
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 588



View Profile
November 26, 2013, 03:03:46 PM
 #23461

Sorry guys but this is a crappy deal all over, but please feed the Swedish industry, they don't have the oil Smiley



* Possible data input errors Smiley

Psst.. Got Ether?
Join ICO Now Coinlancer is Disrupting the Freelance marketplace!
Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction. Advertise here.
sickpig
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1218


View Profile
November 26, 2013, 03:06:34 PM
 #23462

how many coins do you guys think it will generate overall for 1 Neptune and how long will it take to break even when it delivers

Suppose you'll be able to start hashing the first of april (*) and taking into account the estimate made here by D&T (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=283820.0)
we should have almost 30 PH/s network hash rate. that means a difficulty of circa 4.285 billion, let say 5 billion just to be sure. At that diff level will produce 0.3017 a day.

I leave the rest as exercise for the readers Tongue

(*) first of april it's quite optimistic estimate.

Bitcoin is a participatory system which ought to respect the right of self determinism of all of its users - Gregory Maxwell.
PenAndPaper
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 252


View Profile
November 26, 2013, 03:06:43 PM
 #23463

Is this the mother of all preorders?  Roll Eyes
I 'm stunned by the amount of people that rushed to click the order button, like it's just a cinema ticket or something...
murraypaul
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 476


View Profile
November 26, 2013, 03:08:06 PM
 #23464

Got to be in it to Win it.

Quote
Joshua: A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.

BTC: 16TgAGdiTSsTWSsBDphebNJCFr1NT78xFW
SRC: scefi1XMhq91n3oF5FrE3HqddVvvCZP9KB
vesperwillow
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 616


View Profile
November 26, 2013, 03:09:47 PM
 #23465

how many coins do you guys think it will generate overall for 1 Neptune and how long will it take to break even when it delivers

Suppose you'll be able to start hashing the first of april (*) and taking into account the estimate made here by D&T (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=283820.0)
we should have almost 30 PH/s network hash rate. that means a difficulty of circa 4.285 billion, let say 5 billion just to be sure. At that diff level will produce 0.3017 a day.

I leave the rest as exercise for the readers Tongue

(*) first of april it's quite optimistic estimate.

Here's the estimate thread I've been a part of, particularly the first round results (I was nearly to the penny on the estimate): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=272768.msg3409229#msg3409229

And my next projection: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=272768.msg3442350#msg3442350

And for anyone who can do basic math, yeah April is going to be a shitfest for difficulty. This is why I don't understand folks are thinking first month mining will be 12.. 15.. 20 btc.

bbxx
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 728


cryptoshark


View Profile WWW
November 26, 2013, 03:09:54 PM
 #23466

very bad deal imho.

for knc product september delivery is half october

Q2 is half june

what for pay so much and pray for the next 6 months ? or more ?

to be first in the line ?
to have miner one month sooner (but maybe 5x more expensive like it was in jupiter 1/2)

ridiculous.

vesperwillow
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 616


View Profile
November 26, 2013, 03:12:00 PM
 #23467

The best method is to do exactly what folks on ebay are doing.. ebay/resell for 2..3...7x the original cost.

KNC should've kept a "home user" product line along with the "commercial" model. The latter will most assuredly hash more than 4TH, I bet 6TH.. but most home-users can't power that.

Doing another NRE allows them to pad the cost as well.

It's good to be the shovel retailer in a gold rush.

FeedbackLoop
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 742



View Profile
November 26, 2013, 03:12:41 PM
 #23468

Lol i get 255$ for UPS in EU, how many gets USA folks
 
And yes there is only btc payment, no way

There is bank transfer but they provide no re-assurance that you will keep your place in line with that option. One would assume from the last time that it is the case though.


 
Phoenix1969
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 938


LIR DEV


View Profile
November 26, 2013, 03:15:26 PM
 #23469

Yes folks, the Neptine is a terrible deal.... Don't do it!
You are better off buying my October Jupiter for 12k right now,
and letting Me take the risk!......     Grin
Going for much more on EBay


                     ▀▀█████████▀████████████████▄
                        ████▄      ▄████████████████
                     ▄██████▀  ▄  ███████████████████
                  ▄█████████▄████▄███████████████████
                ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀▀████████
                                               ▀▀███▀
    ▄█▀█       ▄▀  ▄▀▀█  ▄▀   █████████████████▄ ██▀         ▄▀█
   ▄█ ▄▀      ▀█▀ █▀ █▀ ▀█▀  ███████████████████ █▀ ▀▀      ▄▀▄▀
  ▄█    ▄███  █     █   █   ████████████████████  ▄█     ▄▀▀██▀ ▄███
███▄▄▄  █▄▄▄ █▄▄ ▄▄▀   █▄▄ ██████████████████▀▀   █▄▄ ▄▄ █▄▄█▄▄▄█▄▄▄
                           ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄
                            ▀▀█████████████▄
                                █████████████▄
                                  █████████████▄
                                    ▀███████▀▀▀▀▀
                                      ▀████▀
                                        ▀█▀
LetItRide
                        ▄███████████▄
                       ██  ██████████▄
                     ▄█████████████  ██▄
            ▄▄▀█▄▄▄▄▄████████████████████▄
        ▄▄█▀   ███████████  █████  ████  █
    ▄██████ ▄▄███████████████████████████▀
 ▄▀▀ ██████████████████████████  ████  █
█  ▄███████████▀▀▀█████████████████████
██████████████    ████████▀▀██████  █▀
██████████████▄▄▄██████████   ▀▀▀▀▀▀▀
███▀ ▀██████████████████████
██    ███████████████████████
██▄▄██████████████████████████
██████████████▀   ██████████
  █████████████   ▄██████▀▀
     ▀▀██████████████▀▀
         ▀▀██████▀▀
[BTC]▄█████████████▀ ▄█
██            ▄█▀
██          ▄██ ▄█
██ ▄█▄    ▄███  ██
██ ▀███▄ ▄███   ██
██  ▀███████    ██
██    █████     ██
██     ███      ██
██      ▀       ██
██              ██
▀████████████████▀
sickpig
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1218


View Profile
November 26, 2013, 03:18:38 PM
 #23470

how many coins do you guys think it will generate overall for 1 Neptune and how long will it take to break even when it delivers

Suppose you'll be able to start hashing the first of april (*) and taking into account the estimate made here by D&T (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=283820.0)
we should have almost 30 PH/s network hash rate. that means a difficulty of circa 4.285 billion, let say 5 billion just to be sure. At that diff level will produce 0.3017 a day.

I leave the rest as exercise for the readers Tongue

(*) first of april it's quite optimistic estimate.

Here's the estimate thread I've been a part of, particularly the first round results (I was nearly to the penny on the estimate): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=272768.msg3409229#msg3409229

And my next projection: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=272768.msg3442350#msg3442350

And for anyone who can do basic math, yeah April is going to be a shitfest for difficulty. This is why I don't understand folks are thinking first month mining will be 12.. 15.. 20 btc.

what do you about 30 PH/s estimate for the end of March 2014?

Bitcoin is a participatory system which ought to respect the right of self determinism of all of its users - Gregory Maxwell.
sickpig
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1218


View Profile
November 26, 2013, 03:19:26 PM
 #23471

Lol i get 255$ for UPS in EU, how many gets USA folks
 
And yes there is only btc payment, no way

There is bank transfer but they provide no re-assurance that you will keep your place in line with that option. One would assume from the last time that it is the case though.

Where did you read that? Did you call them ?

Bitcoin is a participatory system which ought to respect the right of self determinism of all of its users - Gregory Maxwell.
xstr8guy
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 784


Glow Stick Dance!


View Profile
November 26, 2013, 03:21:09 PM
 #23472

If you're on the fence, you'd better make up your mind quick!  I woke up just in time and got order #113xx.

And for those of you comparing early batch Cointerra and HashFast to this deal... those buyers paid a hell of a lot more than 12 BTC for their orders.

And I can guarantee that you could sell your KNC preorder on eBay this moment for double what you just paid, lol.
bobsag3
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 546

Owner, Minersource.net


View Profile
November 26, 2013, 03:21:29 PM
 #23473

Lol i get 255$ for UPS in EU, how many gets USA folks
 
And yes there is only btc payment, no way

There is bank transfer but they provide no re-assurance that you will keep your place in line with that option. One would assume from the last time that it is the case though.

Where did you read that? Did you call them ?
What? If I pay with a wire... they might not hold a place? Proof please...
Zaghomat
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 65


View Profile
November 26, 2013, 03:21:42 PM
 #23474

Very bad deal. Assuming 1 april delivery and 30% difficulty increase per jump  (might be less but not by much), this unit will never ROI. Maybe the diffuculty will be lower than that but you can't be sure of the delivery date

Wesly
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 185


View Profile WWW
November 26, 2013, 03:22:43 PM
 #23475

how many coins do you guys think it will generate overall for 1 Neptune and how long will it take to break even when it delivers

Suppose you'll be able to start hashing the first of april (*) and taking into account the estimate made here by D&T (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=283820.0)
we should have almost 30 PH/s network hash rate. that means a difficulty of circa 4.285 billion, let say 5 billion just to be sure. At that diff level will produce 0.3017 a day.

I leave the rest as exercise for the readers Tongue

(*) first of april it's quite optimistic estimate.

Here's the estimate thread I've been a part of, particularly the first round results (I was nearly to the penny on the estimate): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=272768.msg3409229#msg3409229

And my next projection: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=272768.msg3442350#msg3442350

And for anyone who can do basic math, yeah April is going to be a shitfest for difficulty. This is why I don't understand folks are thinking first month mining will be 12.. 15.. 20 btc.

what do you about 30 PH/s estimate for the end of March 2014?

I think 30PH/s is a good estimate and it will be much harder to double the network at that point (10,000 Neptune), so worse case at an average of 60PH total network a single Neptune will mine an average of 0.15 BTC/day for a while, probably 90 days to ROI.
Searing
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1554


Tips for help? 1BzbfMHCrTeLjc7eCGrYVhH3QXSRodSuke


View Profile
November 26, 2013, 03:23:05 PM
 #23476

they hold my spot in line for 7 days for bank transfer right?
I don't see how since it only shows BTC as payment, but good luck.....
bank to exchange for BTC?.... yes if there are some left...
I especially like the fact that new custies will pay more... Smiley
I know I'm near the first ones this time..... yahooo!
set the chime on the page monitor up so loud I flew out of bed when it went off at 4am!....hahahaha

er not sure what to make of this .but I paid with paypal from my account page....I cleared it with AMEX first because it was over 10k...they cleared it with Paypal and it went thru as paid by paypal and confirmation letter as paid email by knc...slick right thru the order page on the knc web site my account just scrolled down to paypal...no issues

so then I get on my email like 10min later and it says no paypal

I contacted KNC about this as to not to lose may place in line should it get jerked

but anyway....that option did work as of 10 min ago

(jeez story of my life half ass backing into stuff)

Searing


       ▀
   ▄▄▄   ▄▀
   ███ ▄▄▄▄  ██
       ████
    ▄  ▀▀▀▀
▄▄
      ██    ▀▀
██▄█▄▄▄████████
▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▀▀███▀▀▀
██████████████████
████▄▀▄▀▄▀███▀▀▀▀▀
████▄▀▄▀▄▀███ ▀
████▄▀▄▀▄▀████████
▀█████████████████
]
CoinPayments
█████
█████ ██
█████ ██
█████ ██
█████ ██
█████ ██
█████ ██
█████ ██
█████ ██
█████ ██
█████ ██
█████ ██
█████
█████
█████ ██
█████ ██
█████ ██
█████ ██
█████ ██
█████ ██
█████ ██
█████ ██
█████ ██
█████ ██
█████ ██
█████
█████
█████ ██
█████ ██
█████ ██
█████ ██
█████ ██
█████ ██
█████ ██
█████ ██
█████ ██
█████ ██
█████ ██
█████
lemonte
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 601


View Profile
November 26, 2013, 03:23:25 PM
 #23477

Has anyone received a shipping notification for current batch stuff today?

vesperwillow
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 616


View Profile
November 26, 2013, 03:24:01 PM
 #23478

Yes folks, the Neptine is a terrible deal.... Don't do it!
You are better off buying my October Jupiter for 12k right now,
and letting Me take the risk!......     Grin

Haha.. I wish, I would love to do it.. $6k maybe, but not 12 lol..

For Neptune, BTC would have to be worth more than $5kUSD in April for it to be a good venture. Of course, simply holding your 10BTC now would put you ahead of the game.

I would be willing for a $5k product, but this is just too much, especially when the competition is planning to sell 100gh for less than $100 by first quarter, using 28nm technology.

Seems like KNC is leaning hard toward datacenter models, leaving other companies to deal with the individuals.

what do you about 30 PH/s estimate for the end of March 2014?

I haven't made my final projections for March yet (not till December), but I wouldn't be surprised. Cointerra's smallest first batch was over 2PH, they opened up 3 more batches since then for even more (i think 5PH each?). If ONLY Cointerra ships, we'll be close to that projection.

As it is, KNC's 2nd gen are about to kick the neighborhood difficulty square in the nuts within days..

And for those of you comparing early batch Cointerra and HashFast to this deal... those buyer paid a hell of a lot more than 12 BTC for there orders.

No.. $5k for January/Feb/March batches..

And I can guarantee that you could sell your KNC preorder on eBay this moment for double what you just paid, lol.

Yup.. Mercury's are going for $6k right now

I think 30PH/s is a good estimate and it will be much harder to double the network at that point, so Neptune will mine at least 0.15 /day for a while, probably 90 days to ROI.

Hard to double the network? All they have to do is ship more units. Keep track with the preorders and shipped batches much lately? Sounds like you haven't.

WastedLTC
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 555



View Profile
November 26, 2013, 03:24:14 PM
 #23479

just when I thought this thread would slow down...  HAHA.    Glad I came back after 2 weeks but now I just need to wait for Q1/Q2.

FeedbackLoop
Hero Member
*****
Offline Offline

Activity: 742



View Profile
November 26, 2013, 03:25:37 PM
 #23480

Lol i get 255$ for UPS in EU, how many gets USA folks
 
And yes there is only btc payment, no way

There is bank transfer but they provide no re-assurance that you will keep your place in line with that option. One would assume from the last time that it is the case though.

Where did you read that? Did you call them ?


page:
"Payment for this product is bitcoins and bank transfer only."

email:
"For Bank Transfers

In the reference please add your order number only (no product name) so we can track your payment
Payment must be in USD or EUR using the exchange rate found below. (Use correct IBAN).
Please use the following details:
Bank Name: SEB (Skandinaviska Enskilda Banken)

Account Name: KnCMiner AB

IBAN (USD): SE325000000..."


The place in line is like I said. I would assume so but they didn't state directly. A Fiat transfer takes longer than a BTC transfer.


Pages: « 1 ... 1124 1125 1126 1127 1128 1129 1130 1131 1132 1133 1134 1135 1136 1137 1138 1139 1140 1141 1142 1143 1144 1145 1146 1147 1148 1149 1150 1151 1152 1153 1154 1155 1156 1157 1158 1159 1160 1161 1162 1163 1164 1165 1166 1167 1168 1169 1170 1171 1172 1173 [1174] 1175 1176 1177 1178 1179 1180 1181 1182 1183 1184 1185 1186 1187 1188 1189 1190 1191 1192 1193 1194 1195 1196 1197 1198 1199 1200 1201 1202 1203 1204 1205 1206 1207 1208 1209 1210 1211 1212 1213 1214 1215 1216 1217 1218 1219 1220 1221 1222 1223 1224 ... 2138 »
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Sponsored by , a Bitcoin-accepting VPN.
Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!