chrono030
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November 26, 2013, 03:54:04 PM |
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This is a really tough decision to make... The first unit was a slam dunk for people wanting to get into BTC. Take a look at black arrow - they actually delivered FPGA's and their offering is going to be leaps and bounds cheaper than a KNC unit. is the fact that they delivered worth the ~240% or thereabouts premium (assuming 1.49 per GH/s)
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markm
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November 26, 2013, 03:54:15 PM |
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How do you remove an item from your KnC shopping cart?
I still have a november Jupiter in my cart and there does not seem to be any way to remove it.
The checkout button does not work either, presumably because that no longer available item is in the cart.
-MarkM-
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bobsag3
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November 26, 2013, 03:56:49 PM |
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How do you remove an item from your KnC shopping cart?
I still have a november Jupiter in my cart and there does not seem to be any way to remove it.
The checkout button does not work either, presumably because that no longer available item is in the cart.
-MarkM-
I was able to deleted my 10 jups in my cart left over... but every time I log in they are still there.
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madsusies
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November 26, 2013, 03:57:12 PM |
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Who care about the points, if you got Jupiter you can afford pay 12btc and till March. April mine another bitcoins and ask refund, you will get 10 000$, it just about lurking btc to 20nm project
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FeedbackLoop
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November 26, 2013, 03:57:25 PM |
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fwiw I've sent an email about this 30mins ago, let see what we get. Did you already try to contact them?
Nope, was hoping a generous soul like you would figure it out for me in the heat of the moment. 
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vesperwillow
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November 26, 2013, 03:57:44 PM |
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What the fuck are you talking about? So you're just accusing them of lying then, it's explicitly stated they will refund the 10,000$ price in USD
Or are you agreeing with me?
Misread the refund line, that's my bad.
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Biffa
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November 26, 2013, 04:01:28 PM |
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How do you remove an item from your KnC shopping cart?
I still have a november Jupiter in my cart and there does not seem to be any way to remove it.
The checkout button does not work either, presumably because that no longer available item is in the cart.
-MarkM-
I was able to deleted my 10 jups in my cart left over... but every time I log in they are still there. Do they show as paid? 
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markm
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November 26, 2013, 04:01:53 PM Last edit: November 26, 2013, 04:15:06 PM by markm |
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In fact if you bought BTC with what you paid for your miner, you would be much better off, except everyone seems to ignore this.
And folks that say this over and over always ignore the bigger elephant which is what is your target sell price? So, right now, say how much BTC you will buy today and how high you will wait to sell. I don't remember anyone saying they were buying $14000 worth of BTC in June and holding until they were $800 each What matters is how much more $$$ you end up with. If you end up with more $$$ after only mining 60-80% of your BTC back since you end up selling at a later time than if you just bought btc and then had your weak hands shook, and only gained half of what you would of if you bought miners and mined.. talk about that side of reality.. the human element so in summary, the people who keep repeating this dogma of just buy btc instead of mining are the people that don't want anyone else to mine... game theory 101 Since there is hardly ever anything else that appreciates as well as bitcoins do, why would you sell at all unless forced to? Sure if you lack cash for food clothing or shelter you'll be forced to sell a bitcoin or few at $800 or $8000 or $80000 or whatever value they have when that time of desperation comes around, but until then where the heck would you put your stash if not in bitcoins? Altcoins you can get by merged mining alongside your bitcoin mining, or using GPUs left over from the GPU era of bitcoin mining, or using the CPUs that came with the motherboards you used to plug GPUs into. So what else? You going to sell bitcoins to buy APPLE or IBM or FACEBOOK or something? -MarkM-
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helmax
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November 26, 2013, 04:02:19 PM |
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wht is better pay with bitcoin or bank?
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looking job
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Rampion
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November 26, 2013, 04:02:50 PM |
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Guys, you are already paying the miners... But really, what's the delivery date? Q1/Q2? So you are signing up to a miner that could be delivered in June (Q2) and be ok with it? Or am I missing something?
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Rampion
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November 26, 2013, 04:03:14 PM |
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wht is better pay with bitcoin or bank?
Always bank, getting rid of your BTC has historically been a mistake.
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Biffa
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November 26, 2013, 04:03:38 PM |
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November 26, 2013, 04:03:53 PM |
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Ordered 2 Neptunes but not sure this is gonna go as well as the batch 1 Jupiters. They better not screw this up.
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Wesly
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November 26, 2013, 04:05:18 PM |
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I think 30PH/s is a good estimate and it will be much harder to double the network at that point, so Neptune will mine at least 0.15 /day for a while, probably 90 days to ROI.
Hard to double the network? All they have to do is ship more units. Keep track with the preorders and shipped batches much lately? Sounds like you haven't. I said "much harder", not impossible. Another 30PH = 10,000 3TH Neptune = $100 million?!? Okay kind of ridiculous, but I already taken that into consideration. My estimate is based on 30PH when delivered and tripling to 90PH 3 month later with an average network of 60PH ~ 0.15 BTC /day * 90 days = 13.5 BTC.
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der_meister
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November 26, 2013, 04:05:24 PM |
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3TH and 30% more effective...does it mean 6 chips @ ~400W each? D:
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Moving on is a simple thing, what it leaves behind is hard...
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Phoenix1969
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November 26, 2013, 04:06:28 PM |
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markm
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November 26, 2013, 04:07:30 PM |
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Like any good investment you dollar cost average in, and do the same going out.
When you have a basis for your BTC of about $100 per (assuming you bought some) and its $850 today, if you don't start slowly getting out then you are just a greedy bitch who doesn't know what they are doing.
I have X in cold storage and now I just start selling when the price is favorable every few days.
You don't get the "R" in ROI unless you take some profit.
What you seem to be missing is that bitcoin IS profit. It is money, yes? What are you counting as profit, the endless streams of (waste)paper being printed by governments? Or good hard cryptocoin? -MarkM-
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vesperwillow
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November 26, 2013, 04:08:03 PM |
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You're going to make bank 
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allinvain
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November 26, 2013, 04:15:31 PM |
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Does anyone have any details regarding power consumption. The genesis block calculator says expected power usage per unit to be 2100 watts. I am afraid for me that's not going to work. To be honest I was expecting something that would work on a residential 120v circuit. They also do not offer any hosting yet unfortunately.
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bobsag3
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November 26, 2013, 04:17:51 PM |
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Does anyone have any details regarding power consumption. The genesis block calculator says expected power usage per unit to be 2100 watts. I am afraid for me that's not going to work. To be honest I was expecting something that would work on a residential 120v circuit. They also do not offer any hosting yet unfortunately.
I got ya covered  But yeah that is kind of silly. Im glad when I put my new facility together I decided to say fuck it and got all 240v
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