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December 05, 2013, 03:00:50 PM
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I understand that the first batch of Jupiters had to make over 70 coins to break even in BTC and that was going to be tough...  but how can you look at a Neptune and say that it will produce less than 10 coins.    My two jupiters today still create 1 coin a day (combined).      The risk is very different than it was with purchasing Jupiters when BTC was at $100.  


unless you've got 2 November Jupiters pushing 700GH/s each I find it had to believe you can mine 1 BTC a day.

please explain how you're doing this if it's true.
or is it a mistake and you're calculations are incorrect.

I have less than 200gh pointed to slush right now, and I'm making .25btc/day. I have no doubt he's making 1btc/day.

I've just checked slush pool luck:



so for the last week we had 103%, so you should have slightly more btc than whatsoever profit calculator will tell you, 3% more on avg to precise. So in the last week a 200GH/s machine should have minted 0.1422 * 1.03 = 0.1464 BTC a day.


My merc made 1.008 over that period. 142GH =/- a couple of GH constant. That's actual, not calculated. On Slush.

on a 7 days period? good for you.

142 GH/s eq 0.1010/day avg. so 0.1010 * 7 * 1.03 = 0.7282

so maybe slush pool luck calculation is not  as accurate as one might think.

ps: I've just noticed that slush is currently experiencing a very bad round 13.5hs without a solving block....

As long as we are comparing pool luck Cheesy, I switched to P2Pool about a week ago, and the luck has been awesome:

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Pool Luck (7 days, 30 days, 90 days): 174.9%137.5%123.1%

I have made 1 BTC +/- 0.1 BTC with a single Jupiter every day during this past week Cheesy

P2Pool rocks.

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December 05, 2013, 03:03:24 PM
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november jupiter

cgminer fail

why that happen?


also can we used enabled cores

at november jupiter?HuhHuh?
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December 05, 2013, 03:05:16 PM
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Is anyone else as surprised as me that the second batch of Neptunes hasn't sold out yet?  People must be low on funds while waiting for their preorders from other companies.
Not at all. Someone who bought Jupiters early will have a lot of BTC stuck in hardware that hasn't paid them back yet by some way. Loads of people aren't close to break even in BTC terms. Selling a Jup for 28 BTC may seem wicked now to a person who paid for it in  flat but to a BTC buyer it's a loss even if you chuck in BTC mined to date.

Less payment options, crucially Paypal.

What the chinese bank did to ban BTC in some areas ..that's got to hurt demand over there to some extent. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-12-05/china-s-pboc-bans-financial-companies-from-bitcoin-transactions.html

Lack of details ..asking people to chuck 10k at a rig with so little info, especially about power consumption which may be a factor for some.
3TH seems a lot now and I think  they will be more like 4 or 5 even..but it may not be so hot in the 2/3/4/5/6 months they get delivered...there's another reason, time is critical yet seemingly not so much for KNC customers to get a realistic estimate.
Reason for that being that we may hold them to it, and they'd get tired again due to their piss poor management of staff and resources which leads to weeks of insomnia. Laughable. Manufacturers use a schedule. Not dice.

Not even touched the reasons I won't, poor communications and respect for customers, lying flat out, and quit while I got lucky thanks to an unexpected spot of good fortune without which I'd be losing big time ..which was nothing to do with KNC. If BTC were 100 dollars now we'd all be in a darker place.

Loads of reasons why, despite being better than other suppliers so far, people may not jump into a long uncertain game with KNC again.

You touched many reasons. Main reason is imho uncertainty - again lock money for many month without a known outcome. From business point of view they made quite a perfect pricing. Batch 2 Neptunes are still selling - slow and steady - but compared to batch 1 they are a really bad deal  Cool

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December 05, 2013, 03:06:06 PM
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november jupiter

cgminer fail

why that happen?

I hope you don't seriously expect help with so few details. Can you elaborate on exactly what you're experiencing?

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December 05, 2013, 03:07:55 PM
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november jupiter

cgminer fail

why that happen?

Jelin, try saying the problem in your own language, im sure someone on this forum can help you out, but yeah we need more detail.
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December 05, 2013, 03:11:32 PM
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hahhahaha

also

can we used
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at november jupiter???
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December 05, 2013, 03:26:09 PM
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hahhahaha

also

can we used
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at november jupiter???

don't think so. to stay on the secure side do not change the firmware until we received a statement of KnC about this.
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December 05, 2013, 03:32:21 PM
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Ok let's wait knc news
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December 05, 2013, 03:33:10 PM
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hahhahaha

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can we used
enbles cores paths

at november jupiter???

don't think so. to stay on the secure side do not change the firmware until we received a statement of KnC about this.

If you look on the KnC support page, it already says very clearly, in red type for emphasis, to NOT use any of the 'troubleshooting tools' for November units:

From https://www.kncminer.com/pages/troubleshooting

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December 05, 2013, 04:12:40 PM
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November Jupiter owner here:

I just wanted to say, per my mining partner's suggestion, I upgraded the bronze Rosewill RBR1000-M 1000-Watt Bronze Series 80 Plus Bronze Certified Power Supply powering 2 ASIC modules to a Gold v850 and my power at the wall dropped ~50W to 860W.
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December 05, 2013, 04:15:39 PM
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My Aussie friend has a November Jupiter he ordered, and got notice...for "Stockholm Pickup"...OMG!
OOPS  someone made a boo-boo! Don"t kno which.....


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December 05, 2013, 04:22:35 PM
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Ok let's wait knc news
Lol, there will be no news till the February, only make chips for developers take month not mentioned there is not even a model of miner there is no reason for news in December or January
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December 05, 2013, 04:27:17 PM
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i used one collermaster v1000
for november jupiter
seems ok
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December 05, 2013, 04:32:24 PM
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Is anyone else as surprised as me that the second batch of Neptunes hasn't sold out yet?  People must be low on funds while waiting for their preorders from other companies.
Not at all. Someone who bought Jupiters early will have a lot of BTC stuck in hardware that hasn't paid them back yet by some way. Loads of people aren't close to break even in BTC terms. Selling a Jup for 28 BTC may seem wicked now to a person who paid for it in  flat but to a BTC buyer it's a loss even if you chuck in BTC mined to date.

Less payment options, crucially Paypal.

What the chinese bank did to ban BTC in some areas ..that's got to hurt demand over there to some extent. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-12-05/china-s-pboc-bans-financial-companies-from-bitcoin-transactions.html

Lack of details ..asking people to chuck 10k at a rig with so little info, especially about power consumption which may be a factor for some.
3TH seems a lot now and I think  they will be more like 4 or 5 even..but it may not be so hot in the 2/3/4/5/6 months they get delivered...there's another reason, time is critical yet seemingly not so much for KNC customers to get a realistic estimate.
Reason for that being that we may hold them to it, and they'd get tired again due to their piss poor management of staff and resources which leads to weeks of insomnia. Laughable. Manufacturers use a schedule. Not dice.

Not even touched the reasons I won't, poor communications and respect for customers, lying flat out, and quit while I got lucky thanks to an unexpected spot of good fortune without which I'd be losing big time ..which was nothing to do with KNC. If BTC were 100 dollars now we'd all be in a darker place.

Loads of reasons why, despite being better than other suppliers so far, people may not jump into a long uncertain game with KNC again.

Timmers has quite a few good points here, but i'd like to point out the the very first people that got Jupiters (myself being one of them) have in fact made back the BTC back (those of you that paid VAT probably don't have the same story).  If I sold my unit now for around 15 BTC, i will have far surpassed BTC break even.  Id be amazed of 3TH didnt make back the 9 BTC i paid for it.
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December 05, 2013, 04:37:08 PM
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what diff at worker
to put for 680gh
jupiter?
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December 05, 2013, 04:38:19 PM
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what diff at worker
to put for 680gh
jupiter?
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December 05, 2013, 04:39:18 PM
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I think storm "Xaver" will be an issue for UPS delivery.....  Undecided
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December 05, 2013, 05:23:13 PM
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From http://p2pool.info/ :

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Pool Luck (7 days, 30 days, 90 days): 174.9%137.5%123.1%

I have made 1 BTC +/- 0.1 BTC with a single Jupiter every day during this past week Cheesy

P2Pool rocks.


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December 05, 2013, 06:05:10 PM
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We've got a 106xx order and we still don't have a tracking code.  Does anyone know the latest order number to have shipped today?
Well someone with 101xx got their shipping details last night, so hopefully we are at 102xx or 103xx tonight.
103XX.   Have tracking number but it is NOT moving.   just says the label was made, not picked up yet.

WTF?  102XX and nothing.  I guess they are just shipping them out at random?

101xx and still only status "paid" (Payment date 11/06). Got the same standard answer from support like posted here before, to contact them again on friday.
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December 05, 2013, 06:19:06 PM
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I understand that the first batch of Jupiters had to make over 70 coins to break even in BTC and that was going to be tough...  but how can you look at a Neptune and say that it will produce less than 10 coins.    My two jupiters today still create 1 coin a day (combined).      The risk is very different than it was with purchasing Jupiters when BTC was at $100.  


unless you've got 2 November Jupiters pushing 700GH/s each I find it had to believe you can mine 1 BTC a day.

please explain how you're doing this if it's true.
or is it a mistake and you're calculations are incorrect.

I have less than 200gh pointed to slush right now, and I'm making .25btc/day. I have no doubt he's making 1btc/day.

I've just checked slush pool luck:



so for the last week we had 103%, so you should have slightly more btc than whatsoever profit calculator will tell you, 3% more on avg to precise. So in the last week a 200GH/s machine should have minted 0.1422 * 1.03 = 0.1464 BTC a day.


My merc made 1.008 over that period. 142GH =/- a couple of GH constant. That's actual, not calculated. On Slush.

on a 7 days period? good for you.

142 GH/s eq 0.1010/day avg. so 0.1010 * 7 * 1.03 = 0.7282

so maybe slush pool luck calculation is not  as accurate as one might think.

ps: I've just noticed that slush is currently experiencing a very bad round 13.5hs without a solving block....

As long as we are comparing pool luck Cheesy, I switched to P2Pool about a week ago, and the luck has been awesome:

From http://p2pool.info/ :

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Pool Luck (7 days, 30 days, 90 days): 174.9%137.5%123.1%

I have made 1 BTC +/- 0.1 BTC with a single Jupiter every day during this past week Cheesy

P2Pool rocks.


Does p2pool hinder your Gh/s mine went down to 480Gh/s when I connected to Elizium a while ago seems it was affecting others also:
http://forum.kncminer.com/forum/kncminer-hosting/kncminer-pool/4246-p2pool-public-node
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