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Author Topic: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com  (Read 3012390 times)
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November 26, 2013, 06:19:52 PM
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Does KNC ship after having paid? Or are they another BFL?

Reading, a useful skill I can highly recommend.

Pointless trolling here is a waste of time, we all have 1st hand experience that KNC deliver and the products are good.

We're past that "will they" stage, now into "will it pay again next time" stage.

We all seem to have a view on that, but it's  a gamble we'd probably all agree would be better taken with KNC than most other manufacturers.

Hope your ebay sale goes well Pheonix, that would be just about the ideal scenario ..buy rigs, mine them at their peak then dump them for a large enough profit to pay for the upgrade to gen2 and still keep the BTC mined Smiley  If you'd been told you could do this 2 months ago you'd not have believed it I bet Smiley
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November 26, 2013, 06:20:58 PM
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Does KNC ship after having paid? Or are they another BFL?

Reading, a useful skill I can highly recommend.

Pointless trolling here is a waste of time, we all have 1st hand experience that KNC deliver and the products are good.

We're past that "will they" stage, now into "will it pay again next time" stage.

We all seem to have a view on that, but it's  a gamble we'd probably all agree would be better taken with KNC than most other manufacturers.

Hope your ebay sale goes well Pheonix, that would be just about the ideal scenario ..buy rigs, mine them at their peak then dump them for a large enough profit to pay for the upgrade to gen2 and still keep the BTC mined Smiley  If you'd been told you could do this 2 months ago you'd not have believed it I bet Smiley

I told him and others.. nobody listens to me lol.

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November 26, 2013, 06:31:20 PM
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Does KNC ship after having paid? Or are they another BFL?

Reading, a useful skill I can highly recommend.

Pointless trolling here is a waste of time, we all have 1st hand experience that KNC deliver and the products are good.

We're past that "will they" stage, now into "will it pay again next time" stage.

We all seem to have a view on that, but it's  a gamble we'd probably all agree would be better taken with KNC than most other manufacturers.

Hope your ebay sale goes well Pheonix, that would be just about the ideal scenario ..buy rigs, mine them at their peak then dump them for a large enough profit to pay for the upgrade to gen2 and still keep the BTC mined Smiley  If you'd been told you could do this 2 months ago you'd not have believed it I bet Smiley

I told him and others.. nobody listens to me lol.
Josh is bored today man......quit feeding him! lol

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November 26, 2013, 06:40:36 PM
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anyone paid with bank transfer before? this will be my first time doing so....seems complex. do i have to call them to see if they got the funds etc?

last time it was a pain in the a**

why did you again havent had the bitcoins at reach? the same issue like the upgrade-sale where you complained afterwards...

how about you fuck off? maybe its not that easy for me....jesus christ. i didn't come here to fight, so please stop.
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November 26, 2013, 06:52:08 PM
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from  http://www.coindesk.com/kncminer-pre-orders-next-asic

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The 20nm chips will be fabricated by the firm’s current ASIC fabrication partner, TSMC. He

said that the non-recurring engineering (NRE) cost for the chips would be around three

times
that of the 28nm device (this came in with a total NRE of $4.7m, although not all

of those costs were attributable to TSMC).

so (guesstimate) NRE costs for 20nm are about $12 mln, devided by 1200 units of first batch = $ 10000 / per unit

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November 26, 2013, 06:56:12 PM
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ordered 20 Neptunes...
Go big or go home motherfucker.....


You have to explain us how you did it because there is currently a 10 units limit per customer, at least for me (I tried too).

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November 26, 2013, 06:59:30 PM
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anyone paid with bank transfer before? this will be my first time doing so....seems complex. do i have to call them to see if they got the funds etc?

last time it was a pain in the a**

why did you again havent had the bitcoins at reach? the same issue like the upgrade-sale where you complained afterwards...

how about you fuck off? maybe its not that easy for me....jesus christ. i didn't come here to fight, so please stop.

no intention to "fight" here...

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last time it was a pain in the a**

was my experience with the bank transfer to sweden that i had. after 6 (!) weeks and two banks searching for it it finally arrived back at the original bank account

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November 26, 2013, 07:00:59 PM
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anyone paid with bank transfer before? this will be my first time doing so....seems complex. do i have to call them to see if they got the funds etc?

I bought my jup with this method and as long as you follow knc instructions everything will be ok.

if you've already placed the order you'll find the instructions at the bottom "PROFORMA INVOICE" you should have received via email.



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November 26, 2013, 07:02:32 PM
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ordered 20 Neptunes...
Go big or go home motherfucker.....


You have to explain us how you did it because there is currently a 10 units limit per customer, at least for me (I tried too).

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bitpop long time no see.

good to see you again @kncminer thread.

I was starting to miss your avatar  Grin




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November 26, 2013, 07:04:15 PM
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anyone paid with bank transfer before? this will be my first time doing so....seems complex. do i have to call them to see if they got the funds etc?

I bought my jup with this method and as long as you follow knc instructions everything will be ok.

if you've already placed the order you'll find the instructions at the bottom "PROFORMA INVOICE" you should have received via email.




Do you know how long the order will go unpaid before it is auto-canceled?

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November 26, 2013, 07:05:21 PM
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Man I was really hoping for more concrete info about gen2 before they opened the order-book and while I have a lot of faith in KNC, my spidey senses are starting to tingle a bit. They've turned this into a big gamble once again.

I'm very surprised that they are taking pre-orders with a "Q1/Q2" ship date. Might was well say "first half of 2014" which is a HUGE 6 month variance making it close to impossible to estimate BTC yield. I personally believe that they didn't initially plan to start taking orders this early with so little gen2 info but were tempted by the record exchange rate knowing it would allow them to sell more at a higher price. This article, published a little over 10 hours ago, says "Cole is taking the same approach with the new box, saying that its 2TH performance is a minimum figure" yet their announcement shortly after says 3TH so I'm not feeling like they do not have a concrete plan for gen2 yet.

Next they are no longer accepting PayPal leaving only non-reversible payments which is slightly suspicious. What happens if BTC price crashes early next year and everybody starts asking for refund after they've spent a lot of funds on RND? Could be a nightmare...

I just sold $13k worth of Avalons and am SOOOOO tempted to order a Neptune but there's such a huge variance in the estimated BTC yield I can't really accurately compare to investing directly in BTC. While I'm happy with my Jupiter, my difficulty prediction was way off and I would have been better off investing directly in BTC and do not want to make that same mistake again. Decisions decisions...

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November 26, 2013, 07:05:29 PM
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ordered 20 Neptunes...
Go big or go home motherfucker.....


You have to explain us how you did it because there is currently a 10 units limit per customer, at least for me (I tried too).

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You can, and the way you do it is pay for one order and then repeat the process, but please use my reseller link, I'm gobsmacked no one ever does...

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November 26, 2013, 07:06:30 PM
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ordered 20 Neptunes...
Go big or go home motherfucker.....


You have to explain us how you did it because there is currently a 10 units limit per customer, at least for me (I tried too).

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You can, and the way you do it is pay for one order and then repeat the process, but please use my reseller link, I'm gobsmacked no one ever does...

Smiley indeed re-seller links work great
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November 26, 2013, 07:07:26 PM
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Knc listened! I dropped 12 btc on a machine so now I can actually spend some btc on toys and xmas presents. Hell, I could even pay my mortgage with my mining profits now! I bet we get our Neptunes before hashfast, cointerror or butt-f labs delivers a 28nm product.
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November 26, 2013, 07:09:07 PM
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Really unhappy about this not being open to new customers. What a clusterfuck Sad
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November 26, 2013, 07:09:47 PM
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anyone paid with bank transfer before? this will be my first time doing so....seems complex. do i have to call them to see if they got the funds etc?

I bought my jup with this method and as long as you follow knc instructions everything will be ok.

if you've already placed the order you'll find the instructions at the bottom "PROFORMA INVOICE" you should have received via email.


Do you know how long the order will go unpaid before it is auto-canceled?


This is what Liam (KnC customer service) sent me:

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Payments must be received as soon as possible as we only have a set amount of orders allocated.
Also, we ship on date of payment receipt as per previous batches.

plus there seems a window of two weeks to place an order (from news 66):

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These items will be on sale for two weeks at this price or until it has sold out.

fell free to email them to customerservice@kncminer.com if you have any requests

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November 26, 2013, 07:10:00 PM
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Really unhappy about this not being open to new customers. What a clusterfuck Sad

Two weeks it will be.
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November 26, 2013, 07:15:11 PM
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Really unhappy about this not being open to new customers. What a clusterfuck Sad
Two weeks it will be.

 I mean, I don't want to sound rude, but "two weeks" ? Seriously ?!

 And the only way to presently order this is to deal with resellers who I trust even less than KNC ?
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November 26, 2013, 07:16:27 PM
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Man I was really hoping for more concrete info about gen2 before they opened the order-book and while I have a lot of faith in KNC, my spidey senses are starting to tingle a bit. They've turned this into a big gamble once again.

I'm very surprised that they are taking pre-orders with a "Q1/Q2" ship date. Might was well say "first half of 2014" which is a HUGE 6 month variance making it close to impossible to estimate BTC yield. I personally believe that they didn't initially plan to start taking orders this early with so little gen2 info but were tempted by the record exchange rate knowing it would allow them to sell more at a higher price. This article, published a little over 10 hours ago, says "Cole is taking the same approach with the new box, saying that its 2TH performance is a minimum figure" yet their announcement shortly after says 3TH so I'm not feeling like they do not have a concrete plan for gen2 yet.

Next they are no longer accepting PayPal leaving only non-reversible payments which is slightly suspicious. What happens if BTC price crashes early next year and everybody starts asking for refund after they've spent a lot of funds on RND? Not going to happen...

I just sold $13k worth of Avalons and am SOOOOO tempted to order a Neptune but there's such a huge variance in the estimated BTC yield I can't really accurately compare to investing directly in BTC. While I'm happy with my Jupiter, my difficulty prediction was way off and I would have been better off investing directly in BTC and do not want to make that same mistake again. Decisions decisions...

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I can not and will not influence your decision, just that of course we want to underpromise and overdeliver, hence the statement in coinbase, and the fact this is 20nm we will allow for some ambiguity in timeline. This time round Sam has appeared to be generous enough to allow for the option of sleeping (except Marcus! he doesn't sleep, permanently hooked up to a caffeine intravenous drip). People have been burnt out, this is incredibly demanding, it's incredibly entertaining engineering working on the absolute edge, but one of the margins that has to be in place here is R&R so mentally everyone stays sharp. There were a number of issues that arose where upon "only if there was a little more time we could...", therefore the self imposed deadline will have a degree of flexibility, so people stay sane, and closer to the time it can be narrowed down and become more specific. That's just fair on us, no one can deny that.

Also sorry buddy but if the coin price crashes next year is not a justifiable excuse for a company to stomach that cost. That's your risk to take buddy. So the decision is yours...

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November 26, 2013, 07:16:53 PM
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I may have an early pre-order to sell. This all depends on whether KNC will release info or specs about power consumption or whether hosting will be made available.


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