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April 25, 2013, 12:19:15 PM |
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$ 2,795.00 for 6 GH FPGA? Hmmm  $ 7,000.00 for 250 GH ASIC(?) seems much better deal... Well ... when I get a 5GH/s BFL Jalapeno in a few days that's listed on the website as $274 and will hopefully start shipping in quantity soon - sorta makes that $2,795 seem rather ridiculous ... and 48 chips to make 6GH/s ? (The Jalapeno will be 1 or 2 chips and are around 30W) Yeah I'd wonder who would be interested in that in 2.5 months .... As for the 250GH/s ... OK now we're into the 6 to 12 months before that's gonna exist ... |
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FlappySocks
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April 25, 2013, 12:37:45 PM |
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Well ... when I get a 5GH/s BFL Jalapeno in a few days that's listed on the website as $274 and will hopefully start shipping in quantity soon - sorta makes that $2,795 seem rather ridiculous ... and 48 chips to make 6GH/s ? (The Jalapeno will be 1 or 2 chips and are around 30W)
No mention of power consumption of the Mars. It could well be obsolete before it pays for itself. |
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April 25, 2013, 12:41:22 PM |
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Well ... when I get a 5GH/s BFL Jalapeno in a few days that's listed on the website as $274 and will hopefully start shipping in quantity soon - sorta makes that $2,795 seem rather ridiculous ... and 48 chips to make 6GH/s ? (The Jalapeno will be 1 or 2 chips and are around 30W)
No mention of power consumption of the Mars. It could well be obsolete before it pays for itself. Definitely agreed. Best shelf it and focus on the 250GH. |
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April 25, 2013, 12:54:34 PM |
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Mars: Hardware obsolete in three months, expensive. Better buy BFL 5GH,...
Jupiter: Price obsolete in shipping date: 3.7 Avalon machine batch 1, 4500$ in pre-order mode.
For other hand, seems strange no "medium level" machines,...
Not for me,...
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dan99
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April 25, 2013, 01:23:17 PM |
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I agreed that for 6gh/s for $2,795 is not worth it, if it is $700 or $800 maybe can consider. But the 250gh/s for 7K is worth it. I hope they keep to that price of $7k or Lower for 250gh/s.
They should might as well just focus on the 250gh/s and get that out in 2 months.. if you take into consideration of avalon chips, is only $6200 plus a couple of hundred for pcb and other parts... all in less than $7k..
If they don't come out with the 250gh/s in two months time .. avalon will be the mining king.
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April 25, 2013, 01:33:12 PM |
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From their FB site, I asked about if they will offer something in between the 6 GH and 250 GH and they said this: we will have ways of entering the market in the middle of those two boxes in the coming weeks for people who cant afford or justify the larger 250GH/s purchase, |
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April 25, 2013, 01:35:20 PM |
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I’m out... if anybody wants to buy my preorder spots please let me know via PM.
(ordernumber sub 50, one 1-500, one 500+)
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April 25, 2013, 01:38:57 PM |
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the only value to mars seems like the voucher towards jupiter amd mayb even earlier date /que for jupiter
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johnyj
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April 25, 2013, 01:53:23 PM |
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They really have their own thinking   |
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April 25, 2013, 01:55:24 PM |
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April 25, 2013, 02:04:24 PM |
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Josh Butterfly only :- 5 GH/s Bitcoin Miner $274.00 25 GH/s Bitcoin Miner $1,249.00 50 GH/s Bitcoin Miner $2,499.00 So, I don't really know what they are thinking? Did they do a thorough market survey? Do they ever read our comments? I thought we have a very senior member from this forum that meet up with Johan their CEO, to talk about their project? Pricing wise they are out.. Avalon has proven themselves with a very reasonable product entry price when they first come out .. we don't know if they are as fast as Avalon in terms of delivery, so for goodness sake please re-price your product, if it were $275 I am in for quite a couple of them like... 10 set for $2,740.Ya that will be good with 60gh/s -- Sam, Johan you need to Wake up...Wake up ...  |
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April 25, 2013, 02:27:27 PM |
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If KNCMiner is indeed who they say they are, it sounds like they are trying to gain community trust by delivering an easy to develop FPGA-based device in the short-term while their longer lead time ASIC-based device is being developed. All of you who are comparing their Mars device to a BFL Jalapeno need to instead compare Mars to a BFL FPGA. KNCMiner is only.. 12 months late to the party.
Develop the FPGA, show you guys are semi-serious, sell a few and then get your ASICs out the door ASAP. Don't ask for 'pre-order' money, compete on power efficiency(since you will be 6-12 months compared to your competition) and release news articles with frequent progress updates. Nobody will get pissy if you update about development on a product that they haven't already bought with a 'pre-order'. If you miss a deadline by 3 months it won't piss off the whole community.
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April 25, 2013, 02:36:05 PM |
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NOOB WARNING: DO NOT SEND ANY PRE-ORDER MONEY UNTIL KNCMINER HAVE PROVED THEY HAVE A WORKING ASIC MINER
You have been warned.
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April 25, 2013, 02:37:30 PM |
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Important question for these guys.
By when do you think your Asic Miner Jupiter will be ready? This will change a whole lot the view about your products here.
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April 25, 2013, 03:05:00 PM |
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Upgrade protection built in to any purchase with vouchers for up to $2000 off of any Jupiter purchase. kncminer how does this work? some can get 2000$ and some can get 100$? i find this very tricky. Also could you provide an ETA for Jupiter? Someone who is thinking of investing 7000$ into a product might want to know some kind of ETA. We already have BFL who has posponed their products from Octomber to April-May. |
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April 25, 2013, 03:07:41 PM |
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What you guys are missing is that Mars is really $745 as $2000 can be applied towards Jupiter. That price point is extremely effective for an FPGA that's 6gh/sec. I am waiting to see them deliver fpgas before I pre order their ASIC. If they deliver things are going to get interesting, price wise and bitcoin economy wise
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April 25, 2013, 03:11:55 PM |
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What you guys are missing is that Mars is really $745 as $2000 can be applied towards Jupiter. That price point is extremely effective for an FPGA that's 6gh/sec.
Are you sure? I thought it was UP TO $2000. Besides, Jupiter is vaporware right now. We are going to be flooded with DIYers and their Avakon chips by the time it's due. |
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April 25, 2013, 03:25:35 PM |
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What you guys are missing is that Mars is really $745 as $2000 can be applied towards Jupiter. That price point is extremely effective for an FPGA that's 6gh/sec.
Are you sure? I thought it was UP TO $2000. Besides, Jupiter is vaporware right now. We are going to be flooded with DIYers and their Avakon chips by the time it's due. Im sure they mean $2000 off. I will email them to clarify. |
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April 25, 2013, 03:38:46 PM |
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After the big BFL fiasco i think they should provide some proof that they can actually ship the 250Gh device this year because i bet nobody wants to have 2000$ blocked for over 6-9 months like BFL customers. Until then it's just 745$ for a 6Gh device (no idea how big and how much power does it require)+2000$ gift for kncminer because swedish girls are blonde.
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April 25, 2013, 03:44:53 PM |
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Sounds like they are using the profits of the Mars to pay for the Jupiter production. Which is fine, but I think I would want some assurance that my up front investment is at least going to pay for itself with the Mars. Then if the Jupiter doesn't materialise (after all shit happens), I wont be so pissed off.
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