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October 01, 2013, 08:55:37 PM |
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I'm feeling left out. All 2nd day delivery, hosted, no "in progress" Order 294 paid June 3 with shipping Order 865 paid June 4, hosted Order 866 paid June 4, hosted Order 4903 paid July 31, hosted (Oct. delivery) A customer rep called and cancelled order 294 to refund my shipping, then re-issued my order which now shows: Order 7313 paid September 19, hosted. ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) fingers crossed. I need a sanity check here. If we assume that those order numbers are sequential, and assume that they're not all single Jupiters (some multiple, some Saturn, etc.) which leads to the assumption that each order number entails on the order of 0.5 TH, then ... doesn't that mean around 3.6 PetaH? There can't be 7 thousand orders, right?
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October 01, 2013, 08:57:52 PM |
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75% of those order numbers are fake, cancelled or not paid. Anyone could create a new ordernr on KNC without actually going through with the order.
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October 01, 2013, 09:01:45 PM |
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I am a customer group 1-500, day 1 customer with hosting and nothing shows up......
Frustrating as it looks like some day 2 people are getting "in progress" status.
Could it be they are not ready for hosting and treating their customers who paid more as second grade citizen?
The lack of communication on hosting is killing me.
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October 01, 2013, 09:02:16 PM |
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I need a sanity check here. If we assume that those order numbers are sequential, and assume that they're not all single Jupiters (some multiple, some Saturn, etc.) which leads to the assumption that each order number entails on the order of 0.5 TH, then ... doesn't that mean around 3.6 PetaH?
There can't be 7 thousand orders, right?
You shouldn't assume they are sequential, there are always holes in every web-shop order caused by many things, connections broken, canceled orders, etc.
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October 01, 2013, 09:12:18 PM |
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October 01, 2013, 09:15:17 PM |
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How DARE KnCMiner test my hardware and make sure it's all ok before they ship it out to me. How dare they. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) maybe with the testnet? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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October 01, 2013, 09:23:42 PM |
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Seriously you are a member of the foundation and have no clue about normal hashrate variance?? Only thing thats "suspicous" is the drop but i guess that were the ddos attacks on guild etc. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fbitcoin.sipa.be%2Fspeed-small-lin-10k.png&t=665&c=aPxhoPn7iQ_BMw)
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October 01, 2013, 09:31:09 PM |
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Seriously you are a member of the foundation and have no clue about normal hashrate variance?? Only thing thats "suspicous" is the drop but i guess that were the ddos attacks on guild etc. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fbitcoin.sipa.be%2Fspeed-small-lin-10k.png&t=665&c=aPxhoPn7iQ_BMw) I dont know, its rare to see even 5% difference in hashing speed for my miners
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October 01, 2013, 09:34:59 PM |
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Seriously you are a member of the foundation and have no clue about normal hashrate variance?? Only thing thats "suspicous" is the drop but i guess that were the ddos attacks on guild etc. http://bitcoin.sipa.be/speed-small-lin-10k.pngYou switched to "selective replies" only? You missed my questions.
I did? Really? Of course, everyone here has free will, and if anything I think people's unwillingness to selectively read and reply contributes a lot to trolling around here. I certainly don't feel the need to respond point by point to every question, and none of you should either. If you feel I've missed something essential, please hit me up and PM and I'll reply more if I agree! In any case, I don't see any evidence on testnet of KNC mining there. Bitcoinorama made a falsifiable claim which appear to me to be false. I'm just asking him to clarify here to avoid any confusion. Cool, but what do you want to see? The miner that they showed yesterday and various iterations that have banked an entire 1BTC earlier. Aside from that there is the FPGA revisions that utilised testnet. Asking Sam he said it's not a problem, when back in Stockholm it means asking one of the software engineers for access. App thousands of coins were found on testnet as the diff is so low there, rewards were easy. Customers demand real world evidence.EDIT: idee2013 that's not KnC. No idea.
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October 01, 2013, 09:35:32 PM |
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What I think is happening is people are failing to realize order production is first PAID first made- not order #.
Well considering I paid with Bitcoin directly after placing my order, I can't see someone with 11xx order being in front of a 56x order... Take care Because every single person who ordered paid immediately? Doubt it. Before KnCMiner announced it was "paid orders are first" everyone just started placing orders for Saturns/Jupiters attempting to reserve their position and pay later. I did it- I know a handful of people who also did. I believe one of my first orders was 6XX but was cancelled due to non-payment. Later purchased and now im stuck at 17XX. No, I am specifically referring to my order. MY order is 56x and I paid AS SOON as I made the order and there is another person in here with two orders 11XX. He said he is on day 1 and I KNOW I am on day 2 for delivery - I am not making a generalization. Take care
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October 01, 2013, 09:39:35 PM |
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Seriously you are a member of the foundation and have no clue about normal hashrate variance?? Only thing thats "suspicous" is the drop but i guess that were the ddos attacks on guild etc. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fbitcoin.sipa.be%2Fspeed-small-lin-10k.png&t=665&c=aPxhoPn7iQ_BMw) I dont know, its rare to see even 5% difference in hashing speed for my miners We are talking here about block-finding variance, thats not even close to the hashrate variance you see with your miners. Also it should be obvious that nothing unusual is to be seen in the chart.
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October 01, 2013, 09:43:32 PM |
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Seriously you are a member of the foundation and have no clue about normal hashrate variance?? Only thing thats "suspicous" is the drop but i guess that were the ddos attacks on guild etc. http://bitcoin.sipa.be/speed-small-lin-10k.pngI dont know, its rare to see even 5% difference in hashing speed for my miners We are talking here about block-finding variance, thats not even close to the hashrate variance you see with your miners. Also it should be obvious that nothing unusual is to be seen in the chart.because we're on day2 of delivery, means they produced 50? (25Thash) so far?
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October 01, 2013, 09:49:43 PM |
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Damn, my computer is louder than that. same here, my workstation makes definitely more noise I'm also interested in having more details about this (like anybody else fwiw). Anyway the avg hash rate for the last 3hs is 683.99. if confirmed it would be impressive. If you remember what Orama observed when he visited about the guys there and how they were really into what they were doing, they were enthusiasts and keen to see what they could make these rigs do...so it looks like his impression was spot on and now they have something to play with they are in their element. Maybe they're pushing one to destruction to see what the limit is? Speaking of destructive testing, I'd like to see them put one of each model in a well insulated large box outside having an air conditioner. Have the air conditioner cycle on full cold, 2 hours on 2 off, letting the running miners heat warm the box while the AC is off. The expansion and contraction will show what to expect regarding cycles and extremes before failures, what it takes/costs to repair, how best to adjust the soldering of the ASICs to minimize failure, things like that. Of course an environmental chamber would work too. I remember days of testing a radio frequency modulator for space....
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October 01, 2013, 09:52:37 PM |
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lol!
dude, you put the network hashrate of 1398 TH in connection to a KNC fraud.
the networkhashrate looks absolutely normal and you as a foundation member should be well aware of that.
so stop spreading bullshit!
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October 01, 2013, 09:54:02 PM |
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lol!
dude, you put the network hashrate of 1398 TH in connection to a KNC fraud.
the networkhashrate looks absolutely normal and you as a foundation member should be well aware of that.
so stop spreading bullshit!
better you quote to show the link of the posts. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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October 01, 2013, 09:54:28 PM |
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Has anyone receive any tracking number??
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October 01, 2013, 09:54:50 PM |
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Seriously you are a member of the foundation and have no clue about normal hashrate variance?? Only thing thats "suspicous" is the drop but i guess that were the ddos attacks on guild etc. http://bitcoin.sipa.be/speed-small-lin-10k.pngbtw that basically the same as arguing: "there is a alien living in my toilett." - "i cant see any alien." - "yeah, thats just because its to small to be seen." just brainfart I dont know, its rare to see even 5% difference in hashing speed for my miners We are talking here about block-finding variance, thats not even close to the hashrate variance you see with your miners. Also it should be obvious that nothing unusual is to be seen in the chart.because we're on day2 of delivery, means they produced 50? (25Thash) so far?
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October 01, 2013, 09:56:18 PM |
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Has anyone receive any tracking number??
no, have still status "Paid" without any further information.
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October 01, 2013, 10:00:45 PM |
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16xx+1 In progress - Saturn - June 10 paid 16xx Paid - Saturn+Upgrade - June 8 paid 11xx Paid - Saturn+Upgrade - June 5 paid
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October 01, 2013, 10:01:12 PM |
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Seriously you are a member of the foundation and have no clue about normal hashrate variance?? Only thing thats "suspicous" is the drop but i guess that were the ddos attacks on guild etc. http://bitcoin.sipa.be/speed-small-lin-10k.pngbtw that basically the same as arguing: "there is a alien living in my toilett." - "i cant see any alien." - "yeah, thats just because its to small to be seen." just brainfart I dont know, its rare to see even 5% difference in hashing speed for my miners We are talking here about block-finding variance, thats not even close to the hashrate variance you see with your miners. Also it should be obvious that nothing unusual is to be seen in the chart.because we're on day2 of delivery, means they produced 50? (25Thash) so far? good job! but my intention was that you quote always if you continue a discussion. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) lol!
dude, you put the network hashrate of 1398 TH in connection to a KNC fraud.
the networkhashrate looks absolutely normal and you as a foundation member should be well aware of that.
so stop spreading bullshit!
better you quote to show the link of the posts. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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