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Question: 9/19 Closing Price:
0 - 1 (1.6%)
<$10,000 - 3 (4.8%)
$10,000-$10,500 - 2 (3.2%)
$10,501-$11,000 - 13 (20.6%)
$11,001-$11,500 - 19 (30.2%)
$11,501-$12,000 - 8 (12.7%)
$12,001-$12,500 - 7 (11.1%)
$12,501-$13,000 - 2 (3.2%)
>$13,000 - 3 (4.8%)
>$20,000 - 5 (7.9%)
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Just find it funny that the American Revolution was sparked in part by a 5% tax.  They would be burning everything in sight if they had to deal with today's taxes.  

Calculated my effective tax was about 55% at one point.  Income Fed/State Tax, SS, Medicare, Property, Sales taxes on everything you buy.  It's getting out of control really.

Blame the current income tax situation on the prohibitionists. In order to get alcohol banned, the government needed to come up with an alternate source of revenue. Unfortunately, by the time prohibition got repealed, FDR came into power and the government wanted the extra money for the New Deal. Later they wanted to fund a war. Now the US federal government is bloated in social programs and "defense." Not sure why the US feels it needs to outspend the rest of the nations in defense. It's especially ridiculous since most of the wars the US have been involved in since WWII have resulted in stalemates or a loss. Only victory that I recall was Operation Desert Storm.

The US Defense Industrial complex is the biggest social program in the US. Some programs in development are not even wanted by the military itself. It is usually defense contractors lobbying their congressmen to get the contract included in the budget so there are more jobs in the congressman's district. It's all about the jobs.
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February 17, 2018, 08:56:51 PM

Whats with these huge sell walls ??

1100 BTC between the current 10,8k and 11k ...

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I have been observing it all day. It appears someone is buying up anything that goes on sale below $10800. My guess is they will pull the wall when they have accumulated their target amount of bitcoin.
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Just find it funny that the American Revolution was sparked in part by a 5% tax.  They would be burning everything in sight if they had to deal with today's taxes.  

Calculated my effective tax was about 55% at one point.  Income Fed/State Tax, SS, Medicare, Property, Sales taxes on everything you buy.  It's getting out of control really.

Most Americans don't know that in 1913, a permanent Federal income tax was passed into law primarily because it was sold to the American citizens as a "tax on the rich". And they bought it.

Ever since then, the rich have been lobbying Congress to pass tax loopholes to enable the massive shift from taxing the rich to purely taxing the middle class and the poor.

Smart fuckers. Learn to play their game, or get left in the dust.
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Just find it funny that the American Revolution was sparked in part by a 5% tax.  They would be burning everything in sight if they had to deal with today's taxes.  

Calculated my effective tax was about 55% at one point.  Income Fed/State Tax, SS, Medicare, Property, Sales taxes on everything you buy.  It's getting out of control really.

Most Americans don't know that in 1913, a permanent Federal income tax was passed into law primarily because it was sold to the American citizens as a "tax on the rich". And they bought it.

Ever since then, the rich have been lobbying Congress to pass tax loopholes to enable the massive shift from taxing the rich to purely taxing the middle class and the poor.

Smart fuckers. Learn to play their game, or get left in the dust.
The irony is too strong. Bunch of dweebs trying to legally steal money from "the rich" getting screwed. I genuinely love the world that we live in.
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February 17, 2018, 09:10:25 PM

The US Defense Industrial complex is the biggest social program in the US. Some programs in development are not even wanted by the military itself. It is usually defense contractors lobbying their congressmen to get the contract included in the budget so there are more jobs in the congressman's district. It's all about the jobs.

"Jobs" is a good excuse that resonates with voters but without the "fear" component these jobs wouldn't be in the military industry.

Fear is good for business.
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February 17, 2018, 09:11:03 PM

Just find it funny that the American Revolution was sparked in part by a 5% tax.  They would be burning everything in sight if they had to deal with today's taxes.  

Calculated my effective tax was about 55% at one point.  Income Fed/State Tax, SS, Medicare, Property, Sales taxes on everything you buy.  It's getting out of control really.

Blame the current income tax situation on the prohibitionists. In order to get alcohol banned, the government needed to come up with an alternate source of revenue. Unfortunately, by the time prohibition got repealed, FDR came into power and the government wanted the extra money for the New Deal. Later they wanted to fund a war. Now the federal government is bloated in social programs and "defense." Not sure why the US feels it needs to outspend the rest of the nations in defense. It's especially ridiculous since most of the wars we have been involved in since WWII has resulted in stalemates or a loss. Only victory that I recall was Operation Desert Storm.

first ban alcohol, say that tax to compensate needed, introduce new taxes, legalize alcohol tax it and keep the new taxes = more for them. then send them to die in a war...


Sure, it might be tax exempt for the state, but it's not tax exempt for federal.

taxes can be opposed politically or by civil war...

What would you do if they make bitcoin and all form of crypto illegal in the us, possession, trading, like alcohol during the prohibition?

Does your elected representative want to regulate or make cryptos illegals? Maybe even fighting all forms of encryption technology from the public hands?

In India a long time ago there was a monkey who was seeing very well even at night, and he always observed a specific cow, all the time, the cow was very annoyed from this constant observation and tried everything for the monkey to stop his constant harassing watching. then the cow was sad. shiva saw the sad cow...

and before all the nations all they had build was gone, in one instant.

Life is a casino? Which shop accept btc on the strip for chips btw?

Just find it funny that the American Revolution was sparked in part by a 5% tax.  They would be burning everything in sight if they had to deal with today's taxes.  

Calculated my effective tax was about 55% at one point.  Income Fed/State Tax, SS, Medicare, Property, Sales taxes on everything you buy.  It's getting out of control really.

"getting" ?
The US was one of the countries that I was considering moving into for tax reasons. But the fact that they have a fucking exit tax on top of the already criminally high tax rates put me off. Not to mention all the fucking idiots that feel like starting shit in public for no good reason (retards like the dipshit in Vegas, Antifa, etc.). Having to look up if there's some stupid event that should best be avoid whenever I go out doesn't seem particularly fun.

add crumbulling infrastructure, total individualistic egoistical hyper competitive life style, total segregation between wealth groups... poor it is gmos, frack fluids, radioactive trails, low end tier system for everything public, from firefighters, to hospitals, to police to parks to justice to education... while on the other side it is fossil water from the fidji, clean nano filtred air from private jets, mcmansion with helipads far from frak exhausts, gmo and pesticides spray zones, radiation fall outs (only for those with an iqs, the others are failswitchs)...

digitalization + globalization will only make the flaws more evident, until becoming aberrant and then borderline stupid.

Just find it funny that the American Revolution was sparked in part by a 5% tax.  They would be burning everything in sight if they had to deal with today's taxes.  

Calculated my effective tax was about 55% at one point.  Income Fed/State Tax, SS, Medicare, Property, Sales taxes on everything you buy.  It's getting out of control really.

Blame the current income tax situation on the prohibitionists. In order to get alcohol banned, the government needed to come up with an alternate source of revenue. Unfortunately, by the time prohibition got repealed, FDR came into power and the government wanted the extra money for the New Deal. Later they wanted to fund a war. Now the US federal government is bloated in social programs and "defense." Not sure why the US feels it needs to outspend the rest of the nations in defense. It's especially ridiculous since most of the wars the US have been involved in since WWII have resulted in stalemates or a loss. Only victory that I recall was Operation Desert Storm.

The US Defense Industrial complex is the biggest social program in the US. Some programs in development are not even wanted by the military itself. It is usually defense contractors lobbying their congressmen to get the contract included in the budget so there are more jobs in the congressman's district. It's all about the jobs.

graves and funerals have a tendency to reset all surviving military system, the others died.

Just find it funny that the American Revolution was sparked in part by a 5% tax.  They would be burning everything in sight if they had to deal with today's taxes.  

Calculated my effective tax was about 55% at one point.  Income Fed/State Tax, SS, Medicare, Property, Sales taxes on everything you buy.  It's getting out of control really.

Blame the current income tax situation on the prohibitionists. In order to get alcohol banned, the government needed to come up with an alternate source of revenue. Unfortunately, by the time prohibition got repealed, FDR came into power and the government wanted the extra money for the New Deal. Later they wanted to fund a war. Now the US federal government is bloated in social programs and "defense." Not sure why the US feels it needs to outspend the rest of the nations in defense. It's especially ridiculous since most of the wars the US have been involved in since WWII have resulted in stalemates or a loss. Only victory that I recall was Operation Desert Storm.

the u.s. is the modern rome. it rules over an imperium that is the biggest and mightiest in history.  this is the pax americana. the u.s. itself and all its allies, especially western europe have lived very well in the past decades because of this imperium. it needs to outcompete the entire world because it rules -almost- over the entire world. the wars the u.s. fights are not about winning but about destabilizing.

and one point roman senators and populace were smart, educated and rooted in common sense... then they chose a certain metal for their pipes...


Whats with these huge sell walls ??

1100 BTC between the current 10,8k and 11k ...

(@Bitstamp)

My guess is either the whale(s) has/have a short position to cover or they want to suppress the price, so they can accumulate for a later pump.

finally thanks!

Just find it funny that the American Revolution was sparked in part by a 5% tax.  They would be burning everything in sight if they had to deal with today's taxes.  

Calculated my effective tax was about 55% at one point.  Income Fed/State Tax, SS, Medicare, Property, Sales taxes on everything you buy.  It's getting out of control really.

Most Americans don't know that in 1913, a permanent Federal income tax was passed into law primarily because it was sold to the American citizens as a "tax on the rich". And they bought it.

Ever since then, the rich have been lobbying Congress to pass tax loopholes to enable the massive shift from taxing the rich to purely taxing the middle class and the poor.

Smart fuckers. Learn to play their game, or get left in the dust.

How could they have known without the internet? You believe that in Kansas they knew about what was going on?
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February 17, 2018, 09:23:28 PM

How could they have known without the internet? You believe that in Kansas they knew about what was going on?

So no communication existed before the internet? Is that what you're implying?

I've met folks who think the universe was concocted 6 thousand years ago but you're way more fun. Please tell us more.
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February 17, 2018, 09:28:28 PM

How could they have known without the internet? You believe that in Kansas they knew about what was going on?

So no communication existed before the internet? Is that what you're implying?

I've met folks who think the universe was concocted 6 thousand years ago but you're way more fun. Please tell us more.

Today they know in arkansas what is going on... then? you believe so? you prefer civil war communication level or today ? low techs are exhausting...
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February 17, 2018, 09:29:32 PM

Huge sell walls up to $11100 on bitstamp but its being bought into at a steady pace. 1800btc atmo

Remember the bear whale's wall on bearstamp? Suppressing the price with walls doesn't always work.

The bearwhale wall wasn't a suppression, it was a sale.

When it didn't go fast enough, he lowered it until it did.  He did not ease it up as it got nibbled at 325.  he pushed it down into bids at 275.  I might have the numbers off a bit, it was a while ago.  But I watched it all the way through, and even grabbed a bit of it off the bottom.
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How could they have known without the internet? You believe that in Kansas they knew about what was going on?

So no communication existed before the internet? Is that what you're implying?

I've met folks who think the universe was concocted 6 thousand years ago but you're way more fun. Please tell us more.

Today they know in arkansas what is going on... then? you believe so? you prefer civil war communication level or today ? low techs are exhausting...

What are talking about? I've actually been alive before the internet. I don't have to believe anything. I know things existed before the internet. And people knew things. Weird but true.
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How could they have known without the internet? You believe that in Kansas they knew about what was going on?

So no communication existed before the internet? Is that what you're implying?

I've met folks who think the universe was concocted 6 thousand years ago but you're way more fun. Please tell us more.

Today they know in arkansas what is going on... then? you believe so? you prefer civil war communication level or today ? low techs are exhausting...

What are talking about? I've actually been alive before the internet. I don't have to believe anything. I know things existed before the internet. And people knew things. Weird but true.

okay, I am on the bitcoin forum with people believe that data access hasn't be exponentially multiplied with digitalization... I mean of course guy... What ever you say... so which one is better btc core, btc cash, seg wit, segit 2x, btcg? do you even undertsand the implication of each choice? lol...

antilopes said to the sheep that crossing the great river with the crocodile was much danger... bah bah they went...

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wtf?
Did you think that threads could somehow be perma bull markets ? Smiley

How could they have known without the internet? You believe that in Kansas they knew about what was going on?

So no communication existed before the internet? Is that what you're implying?

I've met folks who think the universe was concocted 6 thousand years ago but you're way more fun. Please tell us more.
Even with the internet around today, the vast majority of people still doesn't know about the most basic facts about how modern society has come to be.
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So no communication existed before the internet? Is that what you're implying?

I've met folks who think the universe was concocted 6 thousand years ago but you're way more fun. Please tell us more.
Even with the internet around today, the vast majority of people still doesn't know about the most basic facts about how modern society has come to be.

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Just find it funny that the American Revolution was sparked in part by a 5% tax.  They would be burning everything in sight if they had to deal with today's taxes.  

Calculated my effective tax was about 55% at one point.  Income Fed/State Tax, SS, Medicare, Property, Sales taxes on everything you buy.  It's getting out of control really.

Quick guesstimate puts me in the 80-90% range, after they compound tax on top of tax on top of...
Most people don't realize all of the taxes paid on their goods before they even hit the stores, whereupon they pay more taxes, using taxed money... At some point the snake will swallow it's own head lol
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Just find it funny that the American Revolution was sparked in part by a 5% tax.  They would be burning everything in sight if they had to deal with today's taxes.  

Calculated my effective tax was about 55% at one point.  Income Fed/State Tax, SS, Medicare, Property, Sales taxes on everything you buy.  It's getting out of control really.

Quick guesstimate puts me in the 80-90% range, after they compound tax on top of tax on top of...
Most people don't realize all of the taxes paid on their goods before they even hit the stores, whereupon they pay more taxes, using taxed money... At some point the snake will swallow it's own head lol

no further than his stomach... otherwise he couldn't eat himself. safesnakeselfcanibalism101.
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Just find it funny that the American Revolution was sparked in part by a 5% tax.  They would be burning everything in sight if they had to deal with today's taxes.  

Calculated my effective tax was about 55% at one point.  Income Fed/State Tax, SS, Medicare, Property, Sales taxes on everything you buy.  It's getting out of control really.

Quick guesstimate puts me in the 80-90% range, after they compound tax on top of tax on top of...
Most people don't realize all of the taxes paid on their goods before they even hit the stores, whereupon they pay more taxes, using taxed money... At some point the snake will swallow it's own head lol

no further than his stomach... otherwise he couldn't eat himself. safesnakeselfcanibalism101.

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wtf?

Waiting for the pressure to break through $11k, yo. Chill, homie.

Drink while you wait, anyone?
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