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February 19, 2018, 06:59:17 PM

scammers of cypherdoc/jbreher class

Exactly what do you assert I have done to scam anyone?

Pretend Bcash was a helpful and useful upgrade to Bitcoin instead of admitting it is a pre-mined (EDA) scam of the first order.  We don’t readily forget your fraud nor Peter R nor any other of your pals.

Let's unpack this. In what way is Bitcoin Cash a scam?

They tried to confuse investors saying it was *Bitcoin*, parasiting on the Bitcoin "branding" with bad faith.

Bullshit.

1) At this time the fork occurred, Bitcoin Cash had as legitimate a claim on the name 'Bitcoin' as did Bitcoin Segwit -- especially what with The Bitcoin Segwit Omnibus Changeset being the single greatest change ever perpetrated upon Bitcoin. Simply appending the 'Cash' modifier can be seen as a favor to the other fork.

2) While there may have been a couple isolated incidents of people confusing Bitcoin Cash with Bitcoin Segwit due to the shared 'Bitcoin' portion of the name, they are miniscule. There was no attempt to confuse. There was no bad faith.

3) The word 'Bitcoin' is not a trademark of Bitcoin Segwit, Bitcoin Core, Blockstream, or any other entity. There are no ownership rights to be stolen.

4) 'Parasiting' is a laughable charge. The Bitcoin Cash community reacted in the only manner available to them to do what was in their eye what was necessary to save Bitcoin.
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February 19, 2018, 06:59:52 PM

Downvoted the vid and closed it just from the way he looks and the first two seconds. What a fucking creep.

That's enlightened. Ignore the message because of the way the messenger looks, and the fact that in the first two seconds, he introduces himself by name?

You do realize who this is?
You actually can judge a book by its cover, you know? As with anything else, some people are good at it and some are so bad that they refuse to believe it's possible, but I seem to have become pretty good at it of late.

You do realize who this is? Other than 'CEO of Bitcoin Cash' - a title obviously created just to tweak idiots. Some semblance of his past accomplishments maybe?
He's a bcasher. Which fits with my general impression of him. That makes him, at best, a useful idiot.

Again. Enlightened. /s
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February 19, 2018, 07:02:42 PM

Big walls against LN spotted

https://youtu.be/DFZOrtlQXWc

God.  I watched about 5 minutes of that until I threw up in my mouth.


I like how he pretends to start off by objectively explaining what the LN is, but immediately jumps to biased negatives against it... talk about an agenda  Roll Eyes

I would have expected better from the BCash CEO  Grin

It is about a 20 minute video, and I made it about 2.5 minutes into it before I had to shut it off.

When the guy labels bitcoin (core) as the bitcoin fork of bitcoin and kind of rolled his eyes, and said something like the aspirations of segwit and lightning network failed to be realized.. blah blah blah.. ..   There is not enough time in the world to be wasting on that kind of distractive fantastical bullshit...
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February 19, 2018, 07:04:47 PM

Really? Not one single joke about Rick being Dick?
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February 19, 2018, 07:11:15 PM
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That's racist.

"ga" or "gah" are, for the most part, considered friendly, colloquial terms. "ger" is where things start turning ugly.

Racist is if I posted something like "My cracker".

"Cracka", or "Crackah" are acceptable colloquialisms, IMO, in an established relationship, to add further perspective.


That's what I like so much about this place...

Always learning helpful new information, and I am gonna have to try some of these variations in the real world and see how far they take me... .... I can hear myself already... "Are you fucking retarded Nigga, I am NOT using "er", can't you hear it in my enunciation? , plus I said it in a nice tone, especially the first time when I passed by you in the liquor store, and further I should not have to 'splain this kind of basic common sense to you."

Wish me luck with this...

Makes me also considered whether my bitcoin's have good and clear destination paths for some day after I am gone?
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February 19, 2018, 07:11:42 PM

No one need respond to jbreher.  He is engaging in social media disinformation 101 through wanting to “discuss” the issues and asking so innocent questions, pretending he does not understand.  The fact that he is deliberately doing this right now marks him as a scammer.

He is not here to learn, he is only here to troll.
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February 19, 2018, 07:12:36 PM

Really? Not one single joke about Rick being Dick?

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February 19, 2018, 07:14:33 PM

scammers of cypherdoc/jbreher class

Exactly what do you assert I have done to scam anyone?

Pretend Bcash was a helpful and useful upgrade to Bitcoin instead of admitting it is a pre-mined (EDA) scam of the first order.  We don’t readily forget your fraud nor Peter R nor any other of your pals.

Let's unpack this. In what way is Bitcoin Cash a scam?

Hahahahaha go fuck yourself.  

Hahahaha. Fuck you very much.

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Bitcoin.com,

Bitcoin.com is not a scam, it is a URL. What is scammy about that? Further, in what way does the existence of such make me a scammer?

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EDA,

The EDA was shown to be an effective manner for a coin to fork off. In what way is that a scam? Do you assert that miners _owe_ the Bitcoin Segwit fork to operate only upon it? In what way does the existence of the EDA make me a scammer?

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Coinbase withholding,

You're going to have to explain what you mean by this, as I have no idea.

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spam attacks,

Do you assert that a blockchain is responsible for the actions of individuals? What is your evidence that such spam attacks actually occurred? That they were perpetrated by 'Bitcoin Cash'? What is it about spam attacks that makes them scams? What context makes me responsible for such spam attacks?

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sock puppets,  

Like Adam Back's admitted 'team of narrative correctors'? Incidentally, which sock puppets? Are sock puppets inherently scams?
 And in what way does this existence of such make me a scammer?

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massive paid social media campaigns,

Like Adam Back's admitted 'team of narrative correctors'? For that matter, where's your evidence that such have occurred? What is it about social media campaigns that inherently make them scams? And of course, in what way does the existence of such make me a scammer?

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“Bcash is the real Bitcoin”.  

At the time of the forks, Bitcoin Cash had as legitimate a claim on the title as did Bitcoin Segwit. Indeed, the only reason it does not currently have the title is that there is greater accumulated PoW on the Bitcoin Segwit fork. What with Satoshi's definition and all. Where is the scam in that? (I still hold out hope that this will change).

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I’m not going to spend all day spelling out the many and varied ways Bcash is a steaming fraud.  Now stop playing dumb and asking “innocent” questions and go back to r/BTC

I don't much participate in any reddit fora. Thanks anyhow.
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February 19, 2018, 07:16:28 PM

Downvoted the vid and closed it just from the way he looks and the first two seconds. What a fucking creep.

That's enlightened. Ignore the message because of the way the messenger looks, and the fact that in the first two seconds, he introduces himself by name?

You do realize who this is?
You actually can judge a book by its cover, you know? As with anything else, some people are good at it and some are so bad that they refuse to believe it's possible, but I seem to have become pretty good at it of late.

You do realize who this is? Other than 'CEO of Bitcoin Cash' - a title obviously created just to tweak idiots. Some semblance of his past accomplishments maybe?
He's a bcasher. Which fits with my general impression of him. That makes him, at best, a useful idiot.

Again. Enlightened. /s
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February 19, 2018, 07:17:40 PM
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scammers of cypherdoc/jbreher class

Exactly what do you assert I have done to scam anyone?

Pretend Bcash was a helpful and useful upgrade to Bitcoin instead of admitting it is a pre-mined (EDA) scam of the first order.  We don’t readily forget your fraud nor Peter R nor any other of your pals.

Let's unpack this. In what way is Bitcoin Cash a scam?

They tried to confuse investors saying it was *Bitcoin*, parasiting on the Bitcoin "branding" with bad faith.

Bullshit.

1) At this time the fork occurred, Bitcoin Cash had as legitimate a claim on the name 'Bitcoin' as did Bitcoin Segwit -- especially what with The Bitcoin Segwit Omnibus Changeset being the single greatest change ever perpetrated upon Bitcoin. Simply appending the 'Cash' modifier can be seen as a favor to the other fork.

2) While there may have been a couple isolated incidents of people confusing Bitcoin Cash with Bitcoin Segwit due to the shared 'Bitcoin' portion of the name, they are miniscule. There was no attempt to confuse. There was no bad faith.

3) The word 'Bitcoin' is not a trademark of Bitcoin Segwit, Bitcoin Core, Blockstream, or any other entity. There are no ownership rights to be stolen.

4) 'Parasiting' is a laughable charge. The Bitcoin Cash community reacted in the only manner available to them to do what was in their eye what was necessary to save Bitcoin.

1) Wrong. Bitcoin, following the established consensus rules set from the beginning, did an upgrade to Segwit. Some people, going AGAINST that consensus decided to create a fork with a bunch of UNconsensuated rules (like the difficulty change algo and bigger blocks) so it wasn't even some rogue people deciding to maintain the previous branch AGAINST the newly consesuated rules, BUT A COMPLETELY NEW AND DIFFERENT THING. <- The point here is, anyways, CONSENSUATED OR NOT, according to the pre-established rules.

2) The bad faith was in some prominent proponents of that unconsensuated rogue fork PUBLICLY INSISTING that it was "THE REAL BITCOIN". And don't make start on arguing about all the rest of statements like it was going to be the predominant chain, etc etc....

3) I was very prudent in chosing "branding" instead of BRAND, as I am well aware of the implications of both concepts.

4) Parasiting is exactly what hapenned here. I didn't even argue if it was or wasn't a trademark infringent, but an intentional malicious "parasiting" sure did happen. Also, there wasn't any need to "save" Bitcoin from anything. And even if there were, that was NOT the way to do it.
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February 19, 2018, 07:17:57 PM

Why are we going over the same old BCash nonsense again?
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February 19, 2018, 07:18:32 PM

Its all about the stolen brand identity

By definition, it is impossible to steal something which is free to use. Indignance aside, you have no leg to stand on here.

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and confusing innocents who are not privy to the closed door shenanigans that took place.

A vanishingly small number. And completely inadvertent. If you're gonna get involved in crypto without doing your due diligence, you're gonna have a bad time. No matter what particular coin.
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February 19, 2018, 07:20:14 PM

Won’t somebody think of the charts?
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February 19, 2018, 07:20:57 PM

He is not here to learn, he is only here to troll.

Neither. I am here to illuminate my point of view.
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February 19, 2018, 07:21:15 PM

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Somewhere back we where having a delightful conversation...its buried and half forgotten.  
*Hugs*   ....moving forward.

Really? Not one single joke about Rick being Dick?

If I make crude joke Arri...are you going to question peoples intelligence again?  



Could it be this way?



Should have a better idea at the close of todays candle.

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February 19, 2018, 07:22:39 PM

The bottom line is that if the wallet you use can't process pre-fork coins then it is not bitcoin. I don't see why anything more needs to be said on the topic.
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February 19, 2018, 07:24:35 PM

It's self evident what the consensus is just by looking at TX's.  Last BCash block had a total of 2 tx's. LOL.. 2 that's it. 2.    As opposed to the 13k tx's on Bitcoin.
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February 19, 2018, 07:24:58 PM

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Exactly what do you assert I have done to scam anyone?

Pretend Bcash was a helpful and useful upgrade to Bitcoin instead of admitting it is a pre-mined (EDA) scam of the first order.  We don’t readily forget your fraud nor Peter R nor any other of your pals.

Let's unpack this. In what way is Bitcoin Cash a scam?

Hahahahaha go fuck yourself.  Bitcoin.com, EDA, Coinbase withholding, spam attacks, sock puppets,  massive paid social media campaigns, “Bcash is the real Bitcoin”.   I’m not going to spend all day spelling out the many and varied ways Bcash is a steaming fraud.  Now stop playing dumb and asking “innocent” questions and go back to r/BTC

What is "EDA"?  My brain is not converting this.
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Shorts continue to grow on a net basis.

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Many many words...
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Somewhere back we where having a delightful conversation...its buried and half forgotten.  
*Hugs*   ....moving forward.

Really? Not one single joke about Rick being Dick?

If I make crude joke Arri...are you going to question peoples intelligence again?  



Could it be this way?



Should have a better idea at the close of todays candle.

GBG



Actually I have never questioned the intelligence of anyone in this thread. But it's tempting sometimes.
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