Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion

[Ibian]

The bottom line is that if the wallet you use can't process pre-fork coins then it is not bitcoin.

Relevance?

Everyone who had coins before the fork.

I still don't see what you're getting at.

Look we all see through you. Just fuck off.

Haha. See through me? What do you see on the other side? Can you substantiate it with anything other than your superman x-ray specs? Just fuck off yourself.

This is the problem with arguing on the internet. If we were all meeting in person, this is the point where you would be punched in the face for being unable to take a hint. And not even necessarily by me.

People like you never admit fault or that the opposition has a point, you just keep talking and talking until people get tired. Doesn't work in the real world, does work where no physical contact is possible. This is your home field.

The thing is, even if we were all meeting in person, I might be tolerated in some small fashion. But even people who don't like me don't like you. You are simply not welcome here.

[HairyMaclairy]

You know something is up when I agree with Ibian. 

[Last of the V8s]

[19:12:24] · <ben_vulpes> https://arxiv.org/abs/1802.06038 << "on a subset of 3,759 contracts which we sampled for concrete validation and manual analysis, we reproduce real exploits at a true positive rate of 89%, yielding exploits for 3,686 contracts"
[19:20:00] · <shinohai> I'm sure with time they can get that number closer to 100% (http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-19#1785157)

[bitserve]

[19:12:24] · <ben_vulpes> https://arxiv.org/abs/1802.06038 << "on a subset of 3,759 contracts which we sampled for concrete validation and manual analysis, we reproduce real exploits at a true positive rate of 89%, yielding exploits for 3,686 contracts"
[19:20:00] · <shinohai> I'm sure with time they can get that number closer to 100% (http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-19#1785157)

If someday Bitcoin does another 10x I will "retire" and devote all my time to exploit research on blockchain/smart contracts field. That's when I will start to have real fun.

[Last of the V8s]

[19:12:24] · <ben_vulpes> https://arxiv.org/abs/1802.06038 << "on a subset of 3,759 contracts which we sampled for concrete validation and manual analysis, we reproduce real exploits at a true positive rate of 89%, yielding exploits for 3,686 contracts"
[19:20:00] · <shinohai> I'm sure with time they can get that number closer to 100% (http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-19#1785157)

If When later this year, someday Bitcoin does another 10x I will "retire" and devote all my time to exploit research on blockchain/smart contracts field. That's when I will start to have real fun.

Looking forward to your research in 2019.

[cofefeGandalf]

[19:12:24] · <ben_vulpes> https://arxiv.org/abs/1802.06038 << "on a subset of 3,759 contracts which we sampled for concrete validation and manual analysis, we reproduce real exploits at a true positive rate of 89%, yielding exploits for 3,686 contracts"
[19:20:00] · <shinohai> I'm sure with time they can get that number closer to 100% (http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-19#1785157)

If someday Bitcoin does another 10x I will "retire" and devote all my time to exploit research on blockchain/smart contracts field. That's when I will start to have real fun.

Someone got to teach the shitcoiners why "ol' stupid bitcorn" isn't turing complete. Pain is a great way to learn (makes the lessions stick)

[HairyMaclairy]

The Hairy Channel Observer continues.  We are consistently sitting in the top half of the channel.  Above $12k would be the second upward breakout since the bottom. 

[infofront]

"They vote with their CPU proof-of-worker, expressing their acceptance of valid blocks by working on extending them and rejecting invalid blocks by refusing to work on them. Any needed rules and incentives can be enforced with this consensus mechanism."
- S. Nakamoto

"'Bitcoin Cash' is centralized sock puppetry."
-Nick Szabo (>90% likelihood of being S. Nakamoto)

[Last of the V8s]

    Topic: The fabled GMO cards from Japan will be contract only...

2 year contract, but don't worry, it's only 5 million usd!
And you get to play "guess the fees".

https://www.gmo.jp/en/news/article/?id=765

snip

whip-round?

[Elwar]

I would be fine with another Bcash pump. I am finally settled down in one place where I can take the time to pull out my cold storage wallets and convert my BCH to BTC.

So pump that shit up to .2 BTC for me please.

[Biodom]

Bitcoin is up 4.5% today
GBTC is down 4.72% today, shrinking that premium (by 10% in one day).

Interesting.

[HairyMaclairy]

   Topic: The fabled GMO cards from Japan will be contract only...

2 year contract, but don't worry, it's only 5 million usd!
And you get to play "guess the fees".

https://www.gmo.jp/en/news/article/?id=765

snip

whip-round?

Sure.  If they guarantee uptime and hashrate backed by a bank guarantee and the numbers stack up.  The operational fee "TBD" is just an invitation to go negotiate with them directly. 

[Toxic2040]

The Hairy Channel Observer

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[Elwar]

Elwar:  can you create colored coins or ERC-20 style tokens?

Colored coins might be possible but a smart contract would still be required. I wouldn't use an ethereum token because I don't want to go down that path and confuse users with ethereums.

[bitserve]

[19:12:24] · <ben_vulpes> https://arxiv.org/abs/1802.06038 << "on a subset of 3,759 contracts which we sampled for concrete validation and manual analysis, we reproduce real exploits at a true positive rate of 89%, yielding exploits for 3,686 contracts"
[19:20:00] · <shinohai> I'm sure with time they can get that number closer to 100% (http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-19#1785157)

If When later this year, someday Bitcoin does another 10x I will "retire" and devote all my time to exploit research on blockchain/smart contracts field. That's when I will start to have real fun.

Looking forward to your research in 2019.

haha, I wish. I know it is perfectly possible that we do have another 10x in 2018 but.... something makes me hard to believe I will be so lucky. Wouldnt even care to wait a few more years for that. Not even if that means 10 years.

ANyway, whenever that happens you have my word you will see some exploits on my name (responsible disclosure ofc).

[bitserve]

[19:12:24] · <ben_vulpes> https://arxiv.org/abs/1802.06038 << "on a subset of 3,759 contracts which we sampled for concrete validation and manual analysis, we reproduce real exploits at a true positive rate of 89%, yielding exploits for 3,686 contracts"
[19:20:00] · <shinohai> I'm sure with time they can get that number closer to 100% (http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-19#1785157)

If someday Bitcoin does another 10x I will "retire" and devote all my time to exploit research on blockchain/smart contracts field. That's when I will start to have real fun.

Someone got to teach the shitcoiners why "ol' stupid bitcorn" isn't turing complete. Pain is a great way to learn (makes the lessions stick)

Turing complete is ok.... on SIDECHAINS. Main layer has to be simple and secure.

[cofefeGandalf]

[19:12:24] · <ben_vulpes> https://arxiv.org/abs/1802.06038 << "on a subset of 3,759 contracts which we sampled for concrete validation and manual analysis, we reproduce real exploits at a true positive rate of 89%, yielding exploits for 3,686 contracts"
[19:20:00] · <shinohai> I'm sure with time they can get that number closer to 100% (http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-19#1785157)

If someday Bitcoin does another 10x I will "retire" and devote all my time to exploit research on blockchain/smart contracts field. That's when I will start to have real fun.

Someone got to teach the shitcoiners why "ol' stupid bitcorn" isn't turing complete. Pain is a great way to learn (makes the lessions stick)

Turing complete is ok.... on SIDECHAINS. Main layer has to be simple and secure.

Exactly.

edit: Someone knows when rootstock is supposed to go live / be widely available?

[Last of the V8s]

https://bitcoiin2gen.pr.co/163919-zen-master-steven-seagal-has-become-the-brand-ambassador-of-bitcoiin2gen
shoulda stayed in the kitchen

[HairyMaclairy]

Elwar:  can you create colored coins or ERC-20 style tokens?

Colored coins might be possible but a smart contract would still be required. I wouldn't use an ethereum token because I don't want to go down that path and confuse users with ethereums.

Great.  Let me explain myself.  Global equity markets are going to slowly transition onto public blockchains.  It’s going to start this year.  We need to be able to offer equity instruments (eg shares) on Bitcoin or a side chain or second layer. If we don’t, another public blockchain will fill the hole.

The Gibraltar Stock Exchange will probably be the first to offer regulated securities on a public blockchain. Others will follow quickly.  Eventually LSE, NYSE etc will see the writing on the wall.

[bitebits]

Bitcoin is up 4.5% today
GBTC is down 4.72% today, shrinking that premium (by 10% in one day).

Interesting.

Any recent ETF news perhaps?