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April 04, 2018, 12:04:25 PM

Am I the only one who's getting pretty excited about the thought of 5K bitcoins?
I mean, we'll be increasing our stashes like crazy.

Amen Bro
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This is what misery looks like.  Tera has sworn off Bitcoin for life.  Rosewater tried to jump off a bridge but couldn’t find it. JJG only wrote two paragraphs.  Bawb is too drunk to post today. Jimbo can’t find his teeth. Hairy lost a stop to a bull trap because he’s too dumb to put it above the line. Jojo got nostalgic for hockey riots. Elwar visited somewhere dangerous.  The trolls came out.    And a cartoon line is going into a cartoon dungeon.


I rather hope this is capitulation as y’all sure are cranky old men.

Hey I thought we were friends Wink

Sorry you are far too cheerful for the misery index.

Come back when you are a least a little bit angry.  
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April 04, 2018, 12:07:17 PM

This is what misery looks like.  Tera has sworn off Bitcoin for life.  Rosewater tried to jump off a bridge but couldn’t find it. JJG only wrote two paragraphs.  Bawb is too drunk to post today. Jimbo can’t find his teeth. Hairy lost a stop to a bull trap because he’s too dumb to put it above the line. Jojo got nostalgic for hockey riots. Elwar visited somewhere dangerous.  The trolls came out.    And a cartoon line is going into a cartoon dungeon.


I rather hope this is capitulation as y’all sure are cranky old men.

Hey I thought we were friends Wink

Sorry you are far too cheerful for the misery index.

Better than doom and gloom we are reading these days.
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you mean the little slim balls occuyping america and wanting to implement their world domination over china (among others) have finally understood that this part of their plan isn't working? at least they can still fuck american girls like weinstein, epstein, and bill clinton (against their will), and still get full immunity waht ever they do (corzine), while real patriots get shafted like the sub guy and flynn? occupied america.

What I am curious to learn more about is how talmudists see slavery? I guess all those american white girls are sex pets for them? they want education? they don't have money? go take the dick of a fiat pumped chosen one? I guess so... need more textual references...
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This is what misery looks like.  Tera has sworn off Bitcoin for life.  Rosewater tried to jump off a bridge but couldn’t find it. JJG only wrote two paragraphs.  Bawb is too drunk to post today. Jimbo can’t find his teeth. Hairy lost a stop to a bull trap because he’s too dumb to put it above the line. Jojo got nostalgic for hockey riots. Elwar visited somewhere dangerous.  The trolls came out.    And a cartoon line is going into a cartoon dungeon.



I rather hope this is capitulation as y’all sure are cranky old men.

So Many characters you forgotten Make the story little lingerie its amusing Reading Wink  "LONGER i mean't"
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April 04, 2018, 12:18:57 PM

Lol mic you are the greatest bull in the thread. You don’t fit the story either. 

I have an idea for a better story if I can find time to write it. 
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you mean the little slim balls occuyping america and wanting to implement their world domination over china (among others) have finally understood that this part of their plan isn't working? at least they can still fuck american girls like weinstein, epstein, and bill clinton (against their will), and still get full immunity waht ever they do (corzine), while real patriots get shafted like the sub guy and flynn? occupied america.

What I am curious to learn more about is how talmudists see slavery? I guess all those american white girls are sex pets for them? they want education? they don't have money? go take the dick of a fiat pumped chosen one? I guess so... need more textual references...

So I guess we should just keep sending 600 billion in forigen aid to China so they can monopolize further invade Taiwan and continue to centralize power to their dictator who bans bitcoin and has capital controls on 24/7?
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This is what misery looks like.  Tera has sworn off Bitcoin for life.  Rosewater tried to jump off a bridge but couldn’t find it. JJG only wrote two paragraphs.  Bawb is too drunk to post today. Jimbo can’t find his teeth. Hairy lost a stop to a bull trap because he’s too dumb to put it above the line. Jojo got nostalgic for hockey riots. Elwar visited somewhere dangerous.  The trolls came out.    And a cartoon line is going into a cartoon dungeon.



I rather hope this is capitulation as y’all sure are cranky old men.

That is the summary of this forum, delicious.
Can i stand up now, instead of rolling over the floor, pissing my pants ?  Smiley  You nailed it !


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April 04, 2018, 12:24:38 PM

what I still don't get from yesterday is why wash sale are illegals? and sadly no one was able to answer...

and for those whining about pricing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>



just don't fuck the reversal Cheesy


you mean the little slim balls occuyping america and wanting to implement their world domination over china (among others) have finally understood that this part of their plan isn't working? at least they can still fuck american girls like weinstein, epstein, and bill clinton (against their will), and still get full immunity waht ever they do (corzine), while real patriots get shafted like the sub guy and flynn? occupied america.

What I am curious to learn more about is how talmudists see slavery? I guess all those american white girls are sex pets for them? they want education? they don't have money? go take the dick of a fiat pumped chosen one? I guess so... need more textual references...

So I guess we should just keep sending 600 billion in forigen aid to China so they can monopolize further invade Taiwan and continue to centralize power to their dictator who bans bitcoin and has capital controls on 24/7?

like all the foreign aids send to those countries that then send their excess population to america? what you don't get is that the war against the globalists isn't easy for china... look at the past 400 years, invasions, massacres, loss... and recently...

so yes, those measures that you cite are war measure... to win the war against the forces who occupy america and the west generally... like her:

"Europe has not yet learned how to be multicultural. And I think we are going to be part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place. Europe is not going to be the monolithic societies [sic] that they once were in the last century. Jews are going to be at the center of that. It’s a huge transformation for Europe to make. They are now going into a multicultural mode, and Jews will be resented because of our leading role. But without that leading role, and without that transformation, Europe will not survive."[5] Barbara Lerner Spectre, IBA-News, 2010.

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April 04, 2018, 12:28:24 PM

Wash sale is manipulation of the market because it creates a wrong picture of the market health.

Basically you create an illusion of a healthy market with lots of volume (to dump on noobs and afterwards say goodbye forever).


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April 04, 2018, 12:28:54 PM

You are probably right. White males shooting other white males isn’t particularly interesting.  

Women can be homicidal maniacs too. This is a great achievement for equality, and hopefully we can see more of this in the future to close the gender gap.

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Tera has sworn off Bitcoin for life.
Where did you hear this? I simply said that I'm going to stop trading for a while but I still hold the same amount of bitcoin's I've had since 2013.
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Wash sale is manipulation of the market because it creates a wrong picture of the market health.

Basically you create an illusion of a healthy market with lots of volume (to dump on noobs and afterwards say goodbye forever).

of course, but which exchange will let it's matching engine be used add infinity for free? as such the wash trader will incur costs... And it gives an idea of what size they dispose...

what stop them to have two legal entity and still "wash" legally?

furthermore I find this discussion particuliarly funny in the context of fiat printed to the friends of the fed...

anyway, thanks for repeating their mantras.

You are probably right. White males shooting other white males isn’t particularly interesting. 

Women can be homicidal maniacs too. This is a great achievement for equality, and hopefully we can see more of this in the future to close the gender gap.



specially when they realize that they have "hit the wall"...
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Tera has sworn off Bitcoin for life.
Where did you hear this? I simply said that I'm going to stop trading for a while but I still hold the same amount of bitcoin's I've had since 2013.

Everyone get back into your hibernation holes.  Bad data. Looks like we haven’t capitulated after all.
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Wash sale is manipulation of the market because it creates a wrong picture of the market health.

Basically you create an illusion of a healthy market with lots of volume (to dump on noobs and afterwards say goodbye forever).

of course, but which exchange will let it's matching engine be used add infinity for free? as such the wash trader will incur costs... And it gives an idea of what size they dispose...

what stop them to have two legal entity and still "wash" legally?

furthermore I find this discussion particuliarly funny in the context of fiat printed to the friends of the fed...

anyway, thanks for repeating their mantras.



Its quite common and exchanges do that themself, because they profit from it too.

There is basically no way to stop it - you can just make the cost higher for the manipulators.

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I am getting the impression that you are very skeptical about BTC, and perhaps you are correct that bitcoin might be in a long level of flat and downward trends - but your assumption is no where near a given.  This is not 2014/2015, so price dynamics could play out differently.. on the other hand, 2019 is not necessarily a long time to wait for price action, and it is only 9 months away.

There are several different levels (roughly corresponding to timeframes) of my attitude towards bitcoin. I am very skeptical about the short term. Of course, it is just an opinion (nobody can predict bitcoin's price), but I feel the cold breath of another cryptowinter. At the same time, my longer term view is much more optimistic. I thought bitcoin was dead when it fell from more than $30 to $2, then in 2014 I lost interest (mainly due to personal reasons), but now I think there is a high probability (although, obviously, not a certainty) of another exponential rise, especially if second layer solutions (LN, smart contracts) appear. As for the very long term and the idea that bitcoin can fundamentally change the existing economic and financial system, I am sure it will not happen. In this sense, I am not a bitcoin enthusiast.

If you are sensing that you may not want to study into bitcoin or accumulate or anything like that in the coming year, then likely you already have a BTC stash that you feel is sufficient in the event that BTC prices go up from here - and sure it is possible that you have other things going on in your life that you feel deserve more of your attention, as compared with bitcoin.

Other folks may be more inclined, during this particular possible lull period to continue to spend decent resources accumulating bitcoin, in anticipation that a upwards price run is going to take place, even if the upwards price run is not imminent, it will pay off to continue to reasonable make continued accumulation efforts during this period.

If you have a lower price point in which you will buy in such as $5k or $3k or even $1.5k, you may or may not get such opportunity to buy in at that point, but it is good to personally have some outline regarding where you would consider to be good buying opportunities and also to be sufficiently content if the price does not go down to your buy target points.

I always strictly follow another rule, "do not invest more than you can afford to lose". I have some coins I mined long ago (well, in bitcoin world 6-7 years is 'long ago'), so I am not especially worried about short-term fluctuations - in total I would not be at loss even if the price plunges to lower hundreds (yes, I am mostly a HODLer). Buying/investing is another story, and trading is yet another. There were at least two big bull traps this year, and I am not convinced there there will be no more.

In one sense, it would make sense a decent amount of sense if you don't feel very passionate about bitcoin or very strongly about wanting to accumulate bitcoin, then you may well not be very invested in the concept (but only luke warm about it), so in that regard, it would make sense that you would not even feel any kind of inclination to share your knowledge with others because you merely view bitcoin as blasé.... and something that may or may not happen or some thing that may or may not be important.. and that is your viewpoint, which likely differs from guys who actively participate in forums like this one, even during down price periods.  For different folks, there are different strokes.

Forums are different, here I may be much more talkative, although I prefer to read, not to post.
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trading on a non open sourced engine is positive proof of advance gulliblity...




I know, I know... it's so fucking massive !!!

remove your liquidity from all exchange that don't open source their matching engine code.

not doing so is suicidal... you know it know... Smiley !

we have to take down all their dominoes, to let them naked... to reveal their uglyness, their scams, their loots, their beliefs. no mercy, step by step until they beg for mercy... they will. and then stay cold as them, when they saw us... and laugh.
 
which btc exchange has open sourced is matching engine?

you wanna be a trader? and you trade on a black box? what's your iq? i don't think you can make the cut, fiat pumped, insider, or what ever scam you have found, the only results, is dumbing down.

Wash sale is manipulation of the market because it creates a wrong picture of the market health.

Basically you create an illusion of a healthy market with lots of volume (to dump on noobs and afterwards say goodbye forever).

of course, but which exchange will let it's matching engine be used add infinity for free? as such the wash trader will incur costs... And it gives an idea of what size they dispose...

what stop them to have two legal entity and still "wash" legally?

furthermore I find this discussion particuliarly funny in the context of fiat printed to the friends of the fed...

anyway, thanks for repeating their mantras.



Its quite common and exchanges do that themself, because they profit from it too.

There is basically no way to stop it - you can just make the cost higher for the manipulators.



this is exactly what I am saying... or it's the exchange doing it on itself like you says, or it will cost the washer...

anyway good luck washing on https://bisq.network/  (a true real decentralized p2p exchange using escrow)... it's so expensive Smiley !

but I think it is almost impossible to wash trade on a modern exchange... when you have quantic predictive algos ready to take trade in sub nano seconds... it's hard to be certain that the wash trade will be cleared with one self... ehehe... who knows what "artficial" lag the matching engine can introduce... because they all say that they self regulate and their code is private...

trading on a non open sourced engine is positive proof of advance gulliblity...


HFT with bots who have synchronized clocks and near zero latency Tongue

I dont believe DEX will help against wash trading.

it depend on their pricing Smiley, below latency as it can go predicitve Smiley, before even you know that you will do it, it knows Smiley, ants.
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Wash sale is manipulation of the market because it creates a wrong picture of the market health.

Basically you create an illusion of a healthy market with lots of volume (to dump on noobs and afterwards say goodbye forever).

of course, but which exchange will let it's matching engine be used add infinity for free? as such the wash trader will incur costs... And it gives an idea of what size they dispose...

what stop them to have two legal entity and still "wash" legally?

furthermore I find this discussion particuliarly funny in the context of fiat printed to the friends of the fed...

anyway, thanks for repeating their mantras.



Its quite common and exchanges do that themself, because they profit from it too.

There is basically no way to stop it - you can just make the cost higher for the manipulators.



this is exactly what I am saying... or it's the exchange doing it on itself like you says, or it will cost the washer...

anyway good luck washing on https://bisq.network/  (a true real decentralized p2p exchange using escrow)... it's so expensive Smiley !

but I think it is almost impossible to wash trade on a modern exchange... when you have quantic predictive algos ready to take trade in sub nano seconds... it's hard to be certain that the wash trade will be cleared with one self... ehehe... who knows what "artficial" lag the matching engine can introduce... because they all say that they self regulate and their code is private...

trading on a non open sourced engine is positive proof of advance gulliblity...


HFT with bots who have synchronized clocks and near zero latency Tongue

I dont believe DEX will help against wash trading.
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April 04, 2018, 01:34:45 PM

Holy shit.   

Mark Karpeles doing AMA in Reddit (ex-CEO of Mt Gox):  https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/89o16y/im_mark_karpelès_exceo_of_bankrupt_mtgox_ask_me/


Well, that was impressive. I thought the guy was a scumbag of the worse type.

I hope he can go with civil rehabilitation and that wallet of doom can be dispersed back to Mt.Gox users.

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