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[explorer]

I never saw the problem with telling what BTC I have....1) in safety deposit box....try to get into that .thru the bank

Just on this point, and not personal to you, but for info for all: it's the bank who can steal from you 'safety deposit box'. Have you read a contract with them?

It is common for banks only to insure a box for up to 25k usd. and specifically exclude damage from robbery, fire, water... virtually anything (via @ascilifeform).

And "We will not have any liability to you or any third party for incidental or consequential damages.  If an arbitration proceeding is commenced, evidence that tends to prove that something was left in the Box on last authorized entry, and was found to be missing on the next entry, will not create a presumption that it was lost because we were negligent, intentional did anything wrong or failed to exercise ordinary care.  Nor will we be required to prove that the loss was not our fault."

Then there are executive orders and any number of men-in-black shenanigans.

Boxes are great, of course, for giving up a few coins to put them off one's trail.

I think they can work if you use partial (m of n) encrypted backups, and store them across n bank vaults in separate jurisdictions. I think this is what the Winks do, btw.

Banks.  Just No.  They are about as safe as... I dunno.  A sand castle built at low tide. 

[HairyMaclairy]

The founders of the Floyd Mayweather ICO have been charged with fraud.  More pressure on ETH.  

http://markets.businessinsider.com/currencies/news/sec-is-charging-centra-crypto-founders-with-fraud-2018-4-10202861

[JayJuanGee]

Active shooter at Youtube headquarters.

while i've seen this as well... why is it relevant here?

or are we just discussing it as a current event?

either way... fuck i hate people.

Ah hah!!!!!   I have figured it out.  You, arkian, are BOT.   

[El duderino_]

  So probably, the more money (in this case bitcoins) you accumulate, the more prudent it will be to convolute your answers, if any, to those kinds of inquiries.

JJG must be hyper-rich

Surely, I am attempting to use logic, and I am talking hypothetically to say that the more bitcoin (or otherwise wealth) that you have, then likely the less that you are going to say about it.

So in that regard, don't I say a lot here?  So wouldn't the proper conclusion be that I don't have very much?  Unless I am using reverse psychology, to throw you off my tracks?   

Why So Many talking about BTC in here ..... again as youre walls of text are here.... there not about youre personal pocket.... maybe percentage but percentage of what.... i think less in here talk about there personal wealth, and i think  Thats allways best

[RayX12]

The sellwalls at 7,5k are really strong.

For instance: I don't understand why someone would put up a sell order of 100 BTC at exactly 7,5k just to hold the price down.

Does he realize that also his own coins will not rise in value if he keeps the price down?

Bitcoin market will always be a little chaotic, because of the unknown.
For instance any drug dealer, who did tor market business during 2010-13 and got imprisoned for that, will probably have loads of coins left in cold wallets, waiting to be dumped. Autistic people, who live in their parents basements and have no conception of wealth, could now be bitcoin whales with a lot of weight on the market. That is why things don't often make logical sense here. Lots of people out there who are inexperienced in dealing with wealth.

Is this a joke? Lol

yes!

. o O ( imagination filling the rest of the scene )

driving a car with a girl wearing black and a white hat 

Be careful what you wish!

[explorer]

Code:

This user is currently ignored.

Has gone through the roof.  Shit is about to get real.

[gembitz]

https://twitter.com/bitcoinrick/status/981233235635195904

Lol

baby seals are dying :-D haha

[fabiorem]

Finally FA.

We need more charts like that.

[arklan]

Active shooter at Youtube headquarters.

while i've seen this as well... why is it relevant here?

or are we just discussing it as a current event?

either way... fuck i hate people.

Ah hah!!!!!   I have figured it out.  You, arkian, are BOT.   

...eh, better than being organic. no more sweating, or being hungry... *sigh* that would be nice...

[xhomerx10]

That was one hell of a lot of work to create a steady animated GIF from that video and I'm not sure it was worth my time...



 What's wrong with this guy?!

[RayX12]

Finally FA.

We need more charts like that.

Yes baby I am selling some of my bitcoin after the next split!

HODLING AND HODLING TILL 2021!

[LFC_Bitcoin]

Now that is some shit I can get on board with

+ 2 sMerits

[HairyMaclairy]

Emin Gun Sirer calls Craig Wright a Nigerian scammer:

https://twitter.com/el33th4xor/status/981169717984415750?s=21

[JayJuanGee]

  So probably, the more money (in this case bitcoins) you accumulate, the more prudent it will be to convolute your answers, if any, to those kinds of inquiries.

JJG must be hyper-rich

Surely, I am attempting to use logic, and I am talking hypothetically to say that the more bitcoin (or otherwise wealth) that you have, then likely the less that you are going to say about it.

So in that regard, don't I say a lot here?  So wouldn't the proper conclusion be that I don't have very much?  Unless I am using reverse psychology, to throw you off my tracks?   

Why So Many talking about BTC in here ..... again as youre walls of text are here.... there not about youre personal pocket.... maybe percentage but percentage of what.... i think less in here talk about there personal wealth, and i think  Thats allways best

Surely any of us can say what we believe is good to talk about or not, yet in the end, there seems to be quite a large amount of tolerance latitude for topics.  If you want to personalize your presentation, then that is your choice. 

Regarding percentages of what?  Why would it matter, if we talk about buying at x increments or restructuring our buy/sell orders?  and, sure even some folks buy or sell and go 100% "in" or "out", but even that might not be understandable unless they provide details of their other investments (finances) or even their timeline, risk tolerance, view of the future or cashflow details.

[HairyMaclairy]

https://www.moonmath.win

[Elwar]

Is he saying "more baby sausage!"?

[JayJuanGee]

Anyone concerned that Gemini seems to have raised their trading fees 4x in the past day on top of about a 2x increase from last year.  Seems to add up to about 10x increase in their fees.  Here is a thread that was started about the issue.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3248495.msg33826905#msg33826905

I am kind of wondering what Gemini's goal is?  It would seem that if they wanted to create more liquidity, then they would keep the fees lower, but perhaps they are attempting to become the Cadillac of exchanges, and I wonder if other exchanges will follow to raise their trading fees? or if Gemini will attempt to serve more of a niche clientelle who are willing to pay higher trading fees?

[Ludwig Von]

Anyone concerned that Gemini seems to have raised their trading fees 4x in the past day on top of about a 2x increase from last year.  Seems to add up to about 10x increase in their fees.  Here is a thread that was started about the issue.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3248495.msg33826905#msg33826905

I am kind of wondering what Gemini's goal is?  It would seem that if they wanted to create more liquidity, then they would keep the fees lower, but perhaps they are attempting to become the Cadillac of exchanges, and I wonder if other exchanges will follow to raise their trading fees? or if Gemini will attempt to serve more of a niche clientelle who are willing to pay higher trading fees?

I would pay higher fees than on other exchanges if there is higher return. Whatever that might be... .

[JayJuanGee]

Anyone concerned that Gemini seems to have raised their trading fees 4x in the past day on top of about a 2x increase from last year.  Seems to add up to about 10x increase in their fees.  Here is a thread that was started about the issue.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3248495.msg33826905#msg33826905

I am kind of wondering what Gemini's goal is?  It would seem that if they wanted to create more liquidity, then they would keep the fees lower, but perhaps they are attempting to become the Cadillac of exchanges, and I wonder if other exchanges will follow to raise their trading fees? or if Gemini will attempt to serve more of a niche clientelle who are willing to pay higher trading fees?

I would pay higher fees than on other exchanges if there is higher return. Whatever that might be... .

High return could be considered to be more security and more volatility, but I don't think that purposefully creating higher volatility by removing liquidity is a way to increase user confidence in a platform. 

I have no real idea of their motivation at this point, except that they are attempting to go down the path of prestigious pricing, and that does not seem to be a good move based on their current market position based on current trade volume (but hey what do I know?  Administrators/owners there would know their trade numbers better than my looking at what I believe to be their relatively mediocre trade volume).   

[Ludwig Von]

Anyone concerned that Gemini seems to have raised their trading fees 4x in the past day on top of about a 2x increase from last year.  Seems to add up to about 10x increase in their fees.  Here is a thread that was started about the issue.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3248495.msg33826905#msg33826905

I am kind of wondering what Gemini's goal is?  It would seem that if they wanted to create more liquidity, then they would keep the fees lower, but perhaps they are attempting to become the Cadillac of exchanges, and I wonder if other exchanges will follow to raise their trading fees? or if Gemini will attempt to serve more of a niche clientelle who are willing to pay higher trading fees?

I would pay higher fees than on other exchanges if there is higher return. Whatever that might be... .

High return could be considered to be more security and more volatility, but I don't think that purposefully creating higher volatility by removing liquidity is a way to increase user confidence in a platform. 

I have no real idea of their motivation at this point, except that they are attempting to go down the path of prestigious pricing, and that does not seem to be a good move based on their current market position based on current trade volume (but hey what do I know?  Administrators/owners there would know their trade numbers better than my looking at what I believe to be their relatively mediocre trade volume).   

Maybe it is just because of the low volume... . In that case, they might be followed by the others.