Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion

[Paashaas]

Eclair Lightning wallet for Android now available on Google play.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=fr.acinq.eclair.wallet.mainnet

[cAPSLOCK]

Eclair Lightning wallet for Android now available on Google play.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=fr.acinq.eclair.wallet.mainnet

Works too... this thing.  Easily.  Instantly.  But can only send.  I hope this is not a limitation imposed by not running a full node.  Because full nodes on cellphones are kinda... meh.

[HairyMaclairy]

Eclair Lightning wallet for Android now available on Google play.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=fr.acinq.eclair.wallet.mainnet

Works too... this thing.  Easily.  Instantly.  But can only send.  I hope this is not a limitation imposed by not running a full node.  Because full nodes on cellphones are kinda... meh.

How do you fund it?

[cAPSLOCK]

Eclair Lightning wallet for Android now available on Google play.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=fr.acinq.eclair.wallet.mainnet

Works too... this thing.  Easily.  Instantly.  But can only send.  I hope this is not a limitation imposed by not running a full node.  Because full nodes on cellphones are kinda... meh.

How do you fund it?

It's a regular bitcoin wallet.  Send it some coin to a segwit address, and then you use that to open lightning channels.  It's super easy.  Took me about the span of three confirmations to have a ready to spend lightning channel open.  And seeing lightning work is pretty exciting.  It's fast for sure.

[TERA2]

... quite the nasty, cynical type aren't ya? Coming here to merely wallow in some freudenschade ..

It is a result of others being cynical and nasty to me at other times. Im not just addressing random people. Some of the bulls get rather rude and agressive during a 10% dead cat bounce and after posting many pics of trains and rockets they tell the bears how ingorant they are, using curse words even.

[marcus_of_augustus]

Eclair Lightning wallet for Android now available on Google play.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=fr.acinq.eclair.wallet.mainnet

Works too... this thing.  Easily.  Instantly.  But can only send.  I hope this is not a limitation imposed by not running a full node.  Because full nodes on cellphones are kinda... meh.

yes, the limitation for send only is because it is not a full node. You can set it to connect to your own remote full node (on home desktop, server etc) however, or it defaults to the developer's provided full node otherwise. And of course you can receive on your own full node.

I think there is a good business model here in becoming the first company to do "LightningPay" (bitcoin layer-2) set-ups for merchants, in the same way BitPay did for bitcoin layer-1 ... with instant payments and unlimited TX capacity for the foreseeable future the potential is a few orders of magnitude bigger than BitPay's business model.

[cAPSLOCK]

Eclair Lightning wallet for Android now available on Google play.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=fr.acinq.eclair.wallet.mainnet

Works too... this thing.  Easily.  Instantly.  But can only send.  I hope this is not a limitation imposed by not running a full node.  Because full nodes on cellphones are kinda... meh.

How do you fund it?

It's a regular bitcoin wallet.  Send it some coin to a segwit address, and then you use that to open lightning channels.  It's super easy.  Took me about the span of three confirmations to have a ready to spend lightning channel open.  And seeing lightning work is pretty exciting.  It's fast for sure.

Oh... BTW I funded it, and opened and closed THREE channels.  Total fees ~.00004000 BTC.  or about $0.25US  

[cAPSLOCK]

Eclair Lightning wallet for Android now available on Google play.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=fr.acinq.eclair.wallet.mainnet

Works too... this thing.  Easily.  Instantly.  But can only send.  I hope this is not a limitation imposed by not running a full node.  Because full nodes on cellphones are kinda... meh.

yes, the limitation for send only is because it is not a full node. You can set it to connect to your own remote full node (on home desktop, server etc) however, or it defaults to the developer's provided full node otherwise. And of course you can receive on your own full node.

I think there is a good business model here in becoming the first company to do "LightningPay" (bitcoin layer-2) set-ups for merchants, in the same way BitPay did for bitcoin layer-1 ... with instant payments and unlimited TX capacity for the foreseeable future the potential is a few orders of magnitude bigger than BitPay's business model.

Yeah.  I have a full node (Well I run a few of those, lol) with lnd.  I can certainly connect to that.  But I suppose to re-fund the phone wallet I have to just do it from the main chain every time?   Am I missing another way?

[Rosewater Foundation]

http://lightningnetworkstores.com

The Blockstream special:



 

[marcus_of_augustus]

http://lightningnetworkstores.com

The Blockstream special:



 

https://mainnet.yalls.org/

... who's gonna be the first to create a pay-per-read "Wall Observer" group on Y'alls? (costs measly $25)

[cAPSLOCK]

http://lightningnetworkstores.com

The Blockstream special:



 

I got the tshirts and the stickers.

While we are here I have a philosophical question for you Mr. Rosewater...

I have been watching BTC since June of '11.  I've seen several of these climbs...  each one making the previous one look like a pimple.  Sometimes they have been months apart, sometimes years.

This last one...  magnificent.  I fantasized of owning beachfront maui property.  Oh well... 

But my question. 

Do you really think that one was it?  The last one?  No more coming?  This last one will NEVER do the pimple trick?


(Ps.  I am psyops agent cA7739011)

[Rosewater Foundation]

It's a fair question. I've considered lots of possibilities. Some of them give me goose bumps.

[Rosewater Foundation]

Basically I'm thinking I don't know what I was thinking not selling at $19k or at $14k. I totally capitulated in spirit around $7900. We're now a thousand below that and I'm thinking, what will I be thinking in another 3 months.

[marcus_of_augustus]

I have been watching BTC since June of '11.  I've seen several of these climbs...  each one making the previous one look like a pimple.  Sometimes they have been months apart, sometimes years.

This last one...  magnificent.  I fantasized of owning beachfront maui property.  Oh well...  

But my question.  

Do you really think that one was it?  The last one?  No more coming?  This last one will NEVER do the pimple trick?


(Ps.  I am psyops agent cA7739011)

... allow me to butt in ... while the total expansion capacity of bitcoin value might seem infinite from our current 'small-time' vantage point it is most definitely finite, realistically we have at most 1.5 to 2 pimple tricks remaining (1 order of magnitude expansion over previous). A btc valuation in the USD300-700k range puts it at ~10trillion market cap or ~10% of global fiat monetary supply.

Another pimple trick after that would be almost total global domination of all monetary assets, which while possible is probably not realistic or desirable anyway.

[Jacques_Bittard]

Basically I'm thinking I don't know what I was thinking not selling at $19k or at $14k. I totally capitulated in spirit around $7900. We're now a thousand below that and I'm thinking, what will I be thinking in another 3 months.

You weren't thinking you were greedy and you were only driven by desire. Probably because you are playing with more then you can afford.
My recommendation is to sell during the weekend, where this "reversal" will probably peak again. And then leave it be until everyone else are in tears, and then only start considering buying back in. You will have plenty of time since it will rest after the bottom is reached.
During bull markets, then you have to watch out for being trapped with FUD. During these bear markets, FOMO is your enemy and the majority of traders lose because they were caught in FOMO.

[Phil_S]

We're now a thousand below that and I'm thinking, what will I be thinking in another 3 months.

Q2 is always good.

[realr0ach]

Basically I'm thinking I don't know what I was thinking not selling at $19k or at $14k. I totally capitulated in spirit around $7900. We're now a thousand below that and I'm thinking, what will I be thinking in another 3 months.

You will probably be thinking you should either stay away from Jewish kayak pump and dumps or front run them.

Meanwhile, in Korea:

http://dailystormer.name/south-korea-obese-sheboons-twerk-in-subway-attack-passengers/

[HairyMaclairy]

I have been watching BTC since June of '11.  I've seen several of these climbs...  each one making the previous one look like a pimple.  Sometimes they have been months apart, sometimes years.

This last one...  magnificent.  I fantasized of owning beachfront maui property.  Oh well...  

But my question.  

Do you really think that one was it?  The last one?  No more coming?  This last one will NEVER do the pimple trick?


(Ps.  I am psyops agent cA7739011)

... allow me to butt in ... while the total expansion capacity of bitcoin value might seem infinite from our current 'small-time' vantage point it is most definitely finite, realistically we have at most 1.5 to 2 pimple tricks remaining (1 order of magnitude expansion over previous). A btc valuation in the USD300-700k range puts it at ~10trillion market cap or ~10% of global fiat monetary supply.

Another pimple trick after that would be almost total global domination of all monetary assets, which while possible is probably not realistic or desirable anyway.

Bitcoin currently has a market cap of $116 billion.  The NYSE has a combined market cap of $21 trillion.  It seems reasonable enough that the Bitcoin ecosystem could rival the NYSE in market cap, especially if security tokens start cannibalising the traditional stock exchange model.  Of course to get there, we need side chains which can provide coloured coins or similar tokens.  But people are working on it.  

That would be another 200x current value which would be circa $1.3 million per BTC.  Factor in lost coins and you might squeeze out US$2 million per circulating coin.  That would provide a comfortable standard of living for most people on this thread. 

[Gyrsur]

next 24h are critical.

[serveria.com]

A little dump and the bears and beartrolls are emerging from their dens. Despite their prophesies of DOOM the price is still around $7k. Nothing new: HODL and buy the freaking dip!