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Question: Closing BTC Price June 17:
$0 - 2 (1.9%)
<$6,500 - 7 (6.7%)
$6,500-$6,750 - 1 (1%)
$6,751-$7,000 - 2 (1.9%)
$7,001-$7,250 - 3 (2.9%)
$7,251-$7,500 - 6 (5.7%)
$7,501-$7,750 - 4 (3.8%)
$7,751-$8,000 - 12 (11.4%)
$8,001-$8,250 - 13 (12.4%)
$8,251-$8,500 - 6 (5.7%)
$8,501-$8,750 - 6 (5.7%)
$8,751-$9,000 - 11 (10.5%)
$9,001,$9,250 - 9 (8.6%)
$9,251-$9,500 - 6 (5.7%)
>$9,500 - 10 (9.5%)
$20,000 - 7 (6.7%)
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March 27, 2018, 11:21:20 PM

Bitcoin reached highs of $19,600 on 17 December 2017.

Ethereum reached highs of $1,400 on 10 January 2018.

Bitcoin Cash reached highs of $3,900 on 20 December 2017.

Litecoin reached highs of $355 on 19 December 2017.

Ripple reached highs of $3.49 on 4 January 2018.


Now all on their way down the drain.
Let's hope.
Yes, prices fluctuate.
BTFD
also those other 4 are scams. don't perpetuate them again
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March 27, 2018, 11:26:40 PM

https://blockstream.com/2018/03/27/ifpaytt-brings-lightning-micropayments-to-ifttt.html
in which blockstream obsoletes their own stuff from 2~3 days ago
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March 27, 2018, 11:38:35 PM

Seems like there are big fast pushes down followed by a slow movement upwards followed by another big push down. It's that trickle upwards that shows what most of the market sentiment is. The big pushes down are either big sell offs or someone trying to make some money on a short.
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March 27, 2018, 11:48:38 PM

https://www.tensorcharts.com/
ooh nice the bottom right 'trades counter' shows proportion of market buys to sells over a period
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Seems like there are big fast pushes down followed by a slow movement upwards followed by another big push down. It's that trickle upwards that shows what most of the market sentiment is. The big pushes down are either big sell offs or someone trying to make some money on a short.
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Yes, I called them shaking gestures. I wonder if the current one is separate from what happened a few hours ago, or if both together should count as one.

However called, down we go again. A higher low? I'm playing wait and see.
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March 27, 2018, 11:58:14 PM
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Seems like there are big fast pushes down followed by a slow movement upwards followed by another big push down. It's that trickle upwards that shows what most of the market sentiment is. The big pushes down are either big sell offs or someone trying to make some money on a short.
Confirmed!
Yes, I called them shaking gestures. I wonder if the current one is separate from what happened a few hours ago, or if both together should count as one.

However called, down we go again. A higher low? I'm playing wait and see.
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March 28, 2018, 12:03:10 AM

BTFD only applies to sharp high volume drops - not the slow preamble before it.
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March 28, 2018, 12:06:42 AM

BTFD only applies to sharp high volume drops - not the slow preamble before it.
conceded. not yet but soon Cheesy
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March 28, 2018, 12:09:00 AM

BTFD only applies to sharp high volume drops - not the slow preamble before it.
Indeed. At the moment I'm nursing my hedging short. With the gentle swings of today, I managed to up its entry by ~120, while making a small profit. I'd like to buy some corn at the bottom, if I only knew where it is - or when. Just one of these two pieces of data would go a long way.

Care to suggest anything from your different - but respectable - vantage point?
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March 28, 2018, 12:18:32 AM

I dont have a good idea what will happen from here - only a wild guess that the old channel lines that are now at 2K and 3K (and will later be higher) will eventually play a significant role and will either trigger the next bull run or will grind on it for 1-2 years before failing.
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March 28, 2018, 12:23:08 AM

I dont have a good idea what will happen from here - only that the old channel lines that are now at 2K and 3K (and will later be higher) will play a significant role and will either trigger the next bull run or will grind on it for 1-2 years before failing.
Thanks for sharing your opinion.

One objection I have to the second part of your reply is that trying to make out 1-2 years beyond now is probably a sterile exercise. The "real world" can push a lot, in either direction, during such a long time frame.
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I dont have a good idea what will happen from here - only that the old channel lines that are now at 2K and 3K (and will later be higher) will play a significant role and will either trigger the next bull run or will grind on it for 1-2 years before failing.
Thanks for sharing your opinion.

One objection I have to the second part of your reply is that trying to make out 1-2 years beyond now is probably a sterile exercise. The "real world" can push a lot, in either direction, during such a long time frame.
Lets face it, you're only here because you sold at 2k and you dream of getting back in close to what you sold for? Reveal yourself!
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March 28, 2018, 12:29:02 AM

I dont have a good idea what will happen from here - only that the old channel lines that are now at 2K and 3K (and will later be higher) will play a significant role and will either trigger the next bull run or will grind on it for 1-2 years before failing.
Thanks for sharing your opinion.

One objection I have to the second part of your reply is that trying to make out 1-2 years beyond now is probably a sterile exercise. The "real world" can push a lot, in either direction, during such a long time frame.
Lets face it, you're only here because you sold at 2k and you dream of getting back in close to what you sold for? Reveal yourself!
Are you asking me or Tera?

If it's me you're addressing, you're far from the truth. Very, very far.

Not that I would mind getting some coin at 2k... but not because I sold. And it's not a thing of today, or tomorrow.
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I dont have a good idea what will happen from here - only that the old channel lines that are now at 2K and 3K (and will later be higher) will play a significant role and will either trigger the next bull run or will grind on it for 1-2 years before failing.
Thanks for sharing your opinion.

One objection I have to the second part of your reply is that trying to make out 1-2 years beyond now is probably a sterile exercise. The "real world" can push a lot, in either direction, during such a long time frame.

That time frame is indeed a long way out in terms of possible events, but it is surprising how often chart analysis works out correct over the longer term. The short to medium term breaks down with unforseen events, yet the long term is a product of very large numbers of small chaotic events, and tends to exhibit its own structure regardless (or perhaps because of : classical chaos theory).
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March 28, 2018, 12:49:04 AM

While we're here wondering, let's munch some gossip.
Here's a couple updates from Masterluc in the last few days.

Quote from: Masterluc
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I do not know what to write, the indicators are not very good. Wall Street on Friday fell heavily, but bitcoin in the meantime is carefully cutting the sausage (sobering up?). In general, we trample carefully on the spot with bad indicators and surroundings.

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For my medium-term optimism, it is necessary that the price immediately rises above the daily ma 200 and weekly ma 20.
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March 28, 2018, 12:57:17 AM

Am I alone in thinking that this is the true beginning of the demise of bitcoin?
 Undecided

I was castigated on here when I posted this 10 days ago.
I still strongly believe we are watching crypto currencies die.
I want a few apologies when it becomes apparent to all.


What reason do you have for that ? 

Many projects will of course die. Crypto is most likely to survive. Even BTC at $2-3000 would simply be back to long term support,  not dead.
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March 28, 2018, 12:59:31 AM
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My accountant just got back to me. It's hell season for him, and dude is flying cross-country dealing with his larger clients.

Delaying a tax payment on $nM from one quarter to the next is negligible. 4% penalty annually (compounded daily so it works out to more than that, actually). The IRS is going to assume I owe 1/4 of $nM of the tax per quarter unless we specify otherwise (which we ultimately will, because I'm strange like that)

tl;dr: 1/4 of a 4% tax payment obligation on $nM, delayed a quarter, is a reasonable penalty in a down crypto market - assuming we don't head even lower in Q2.

Will take my chances and HODL.
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March 28, 2018, 01:01:39 AM

I would respectfully suggest that Jamie Dimon has set the support and resistance for the next few years.  $2400/$20,000.

In Sept 2017 he said BTC was a fraud, but also  'don't short, it may go to $20,000'. The low after his remarks was $2400.

That may seem like a wide range, but volatility will remain high.
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March 28, 2018, 01:13:04 AM

Jamie knows that if you short BTC you must go long USD which as a former NYC FED chief he knows is a bad bet overall

While we're here wondering, let's munch some gossip.
Here's a couple updates from Masterluc in the last few days.

Quote from: Masterluc
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I do not know what to write, the indicators are not very good. Wall Street on Friday fell heavily, but bitcoin in the meantime is carefully cutting the sausage (sobering up?). In general, we trample carefully on the spot with bad indicators and surroundings.

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For my medium-term optimism, it is necessary that the price immediately rises above the daily ma 200 and weekly ma 20.

MasterLuc needs to note the DXY or dollar index rather then DOW which is only 30 stocks and more like a barometer of sentiment really.

Here is the ETF which should align quite closely but stockcharts.com has the dollar index I think



Dollar index fell from its high on the new presidential term high, its lost about 10% or so.  The ETF shows -14%, some of that is fees.   It relates to dollar worth and should be inverse to BTC gains some.   If we did get a (sharply, note 2008) rising dollar index it really would be bearish for BTC otherwise I dont especially think crypto is under pressure apart  from its own making
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