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April 12, 2018, 02:11:46 AM |
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Et tu, brute? Oh how ironic. I wonder how long until all the BCash cultists realize they've been had and stone Roger Ver in the street... A historic IRS audit would be a good start. Might be enough for an international warrant.
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April 12, 2018, 02:38:59 AM |
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I understand your theory. However, the negativity in this experience was strictly physical and prior to ayahuasca I never had a bad experience on psychedelics in my life. I was always fearless and trying to go as deep as possible (hence trying Ayahuasca). However, something was extremely different about this ayahuasca experience. At about the 90 minute mark was when it was no longer fun and I noticed my body had gone very cold, my limbs felt dead, and I felt like I weighed 2000 poinds. Everything was buzzing like I had neuropathy and I saw the white tunnel of death (which kind of looks like a spinning particle accelerator). I needed to gasp for breath and could barely sit up. I was starving for oxygen, couldnt breathe right, and seeing stars. There were no more visuals - just the stars and static of someone who was being choked and passing out. I was certain I was dying. After realizing I wasn't getting to a hospital any time soon, I said my goodbyes to everyone and surrendered my life. I proceeded to sort of black out for the next 6 hours.
Again I dont remember any visuals or anything meaningful - just sort of on and off blacking out and praying for my life. Oh and vomiting no less than 100 times. At some point the ceremony was over and I was supposed to leave, but I wasnt ready and it took me another few hours in a sort of catatonic stupor to gather my composure to be able to walk out. I was asked about my visuals and if I saw any spirit animals, etc. and I said all I saw were some geometric patterns, which confused them. They asked over and over and I just pointed to their robes. They handed me a survey to fill out which I thought was hilarious because I couldnt read still. Looking back it doesn't seem like a psychedelic experience at all but rather just being knocked the fuck out and brain damaged. Maybe it was serotonin syndrome.
I also had trouble the first time I tried "weed" where a few minutes after taking several puffs because I wasn't getting high, I started seeing stars and then totally lost consciousness, and according to a friend I convulsed and threw fists at him. 10 minutes later I woke up from some deep dream not knowing what planet I was on, took minutes to regain my bearings, and felt like shit for the next 2 weeks. But that was nothing like the ayahuasca trip. I'm just wondering if my brain isn't able to metabolize certain drugs. Inbetween the weed and the ayahuasca, I did have a stellar career with some other classic drugs though
That sounds pretty terrifying. Another reason for me to stay away from Peru, as interesting as the environment sounds. Luckily safer substances and ROAs can go just as deep as ayahuasca minus the negative side effects. Ayahuasca is pretty much a combination of two substances, DMT and a MAO inhibitor, and then some random stuff depending on what shaman you're with. The MAO-I basically allows the DMT to become active when ingested (as opposed to smoked or injected), but it also creates the risk of serotonin syndrome, the symptoms of which sound like what you're describing. If that's what happened then the weed experience seems confusing though, since it can't trigger SS. I've had some "negative" experiences with weed to say the least, but I never really passed out. I got close once when my entire field of vision got filled up with tiny turquoise colored donuts and my legs felt like gummy snakes. Somehow managed to get home and just lay down. Other times I've paid too much attention to my breathing and/or heart rate and freaked myself out into believing I was dying, but never anything quite as extreme as what you've described. Absolutely zero negative experiences with harder drugs beyond the usual "did I take too much" or "was this a mistake" kind of thoughts that accompany the come-up of every great trip, at least for now (fingers crossed that won't change). Have you talked to your doctor about the SS possibility regarding your current condition? Or was that unrelated?
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April 12, 2018, 02:42:30 AM |
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I love humans. You just can't make this shit up.
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April 12, 2018, 03:03:00 AM |
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Aaaaaaaand now its bearish again. RSI pointing down bouncing off 40. Apparently this line will change its angle up to 180 degrees during the day. Seen it myself. Live. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi68.tinypic.com%2F11jtax2.jpg&t=665&c=YObY7RcTpm5FlA) Dude, RSI (and any secondary indicator for that matter) isn't a leader of shit.
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April 12, 2018, 03:09:54 AM |
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Bought eos, sold eos for a 20% gain, now bought xrp and will buy back eos later. After a long time, it's possible to have fun with crypto. Hope it lasts.
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April 12, 2018, 03:20:15 AM |
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For the senior citizens, Canned Heat in 1968, "Amphetamine Annie".
This is a song with a message I want you to heed my warning I wanna tell you all a story About this chick I know They call her "Amphetamine Annie" She's always shovelling snow I sat her down and told her I told her crystal clear "I don't mind you getting high But there's one thing you should fear" "Your mind might think its flying, baby On those little pills But you ought to know it's dying, 'cause Speed kills" But Annie kept on speeding Her health was getting poor She saw things in the window She heard things at the door Her mind was like a grinding mill Her lips were cracked and sore Her skin was turning yellow I just couldn't take it no more She thought her mind was flying On those little pills She didn't it was going down fast, 'cause Speed kills Well I sat her down and told her I told her one more time "The whole wide human race has taken Far too much methedrine" She said "I don't care what a Limey says I've got to get it on I'm not here to just see no man Who come from across the pond She wouldn't heed my warning Lord, she wouldn't hear what I said Now she's in the graveyard, and she's Awfully dead
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April 12, 2018, 03:49:28 AM |
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April 12, 2018, 03:56:33 AM Merited by JayJuanGee (1) |
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Another pearl from Jeff (remember the bugged Segwit 2x?) ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F1kg2U3S.png&t=665&c=6GM3E6xexNZdyQ) Oh, look at the Bitcoin ABC devs, they dont know what they are doing lol ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FGJl6jNX.png&t=665&c=qXeqi_02nvn3aQ)
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April 12, 2018, 04:39:56 AM |
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Danger danger danger achtung lederhosen![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.ibb.co%2FjGGBxH%2F8_E19982_B_EF9_D_4_C33_9_EF7_82_A33_D62222_D.png&t=665&c=6suOMve0bW-7Tw) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.ibb.co%2FbXX6Wc%2F223_FD47_E_182_F_4688_91_AF_192_DAC4_F6_BD4.png&t=665&c=RsPQlxC-cFoR3A)
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April 12, 2018, 04:40:31 AM |
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That sounds pretty terrifying. Another reason for me to stay away from Peru, as interesting as the environment sounds. Luckily safer substances and ROAs can go just as deep as ayahuasca minus the negative side effects.
Ayahuasca is pretty much a combination of two substances, DMT and a MAO inhibitor, and then some random stuff depending on what shaman you're with. The MAO-I basically allows the DMT to become active when ingested (as opposed to smoked or injected), but it also creates the risk of serotonin syndrome, the symptoms of which sound like what you're describing.
If that's what happened then the weed experience seems confusing though, since it can't trigger SS. I've had some "negative" experiences with weed to say the least, but I never really passed out. I got close once when my entire field of vision got filled up with tiny turquoise colored donuts and my legs felt like gummy snakes. Somehow managed to get home and just lay down. Other times I've paid too much attention to my breathing and/or heart rate and freaked myself out into believing I was dying, but never anything quite as extreme as what you've described. Absolutely zero negative experiences with harder drugs beyond the usual "did I take too much" or "was this a mistake" kind of thoughts that accompany the come-up of every great trip, at least for now (fingers crossed that won't change).
Have you talked to your doctor about the SS possibility regarding your current condition? Or was that unrelated?
Yes I would suspect the MAOI interacted with something to cause to SS. I might not have followed the preparation diet as strictly as I should have, especially considering the giant dose I was given which measured about 1 Liter when I now see that most people drink about a small teacup's worth. In addition, I have a genetic SNP called the "warrior gene" which already impairs my MAOA function. By the way, in the indigenous culture, ayahuasca is not actually MAOI + DMT. It is strictly the Caapi plant (the MAOI) which has the name Ayahuasca. Other additives, such as a DMT source, or other things, may or may not be added. Most of the time they were not and it was just the Caapi. Also, in most healing ceremonies it was actually just the shaman who drank in order to channel energies to the patient and the patient did not even drink. I learned all of this after the fact. So apparently all us tourists are being taken for a ride. I did not get ill with my current condition until 2 years after this event, so I'm not sure how I would bring up a correlation with my doctor, unless I want to hear that I'm suffering from a somatized PTSD disorder. Actually I'd be curious to do a SPECT scan of my brain and see if anything died.
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April 12, 2018, 05:00:36 AM |
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Im still planning on leaving, but my plans to accumulate certain altcoins were interrupted and im waiting for the next dip. My bitcoin accumulation is over.
TERA, do you mind sharing which altcoins you are accumulating?
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April 12, 2018, 06:25:51 AM |
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Ok, we all knew it here but I don't buy it. Corporate shit cannot change overnight! Even if they get sued for good, the point is they probably made insane amount of money by calling bitcoin a fraud and then playing with it (and, hence, with us).
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April 12, 2018, 06:45:08 AM |
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Im still planning on leaving, but my plans to accumulate certain altcoins were interrupted and im waiting for the next dip. My bitcoin accumulation is over.
TERA, do you mind sharing which altcoins you are accumulating? I'm feeble minded...I still have BTC hoard and have mined a crap load of Alt coins since...thus will purge the altcoins first (some are pretty good so not all) and save the BTC ...I figure BTC will be the last Tulip to fall (on my worse days) ..(hey, don't toss stuff at me on Bitcointalk...I can get a bit down on the prices) but sucking it up in the above manner (though I could panic sell ALL my altcoins like a 12-year-old child on a whim...just saying) So opposite play is my play from Tera2 ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I also make money (or have ...future .er...meh?) mining..which likely drives most of you guys to fits...but whatever floats the boat... I find it 'invaluable' on when you panic like a 12-year-old child...the timing is important...with crypto...most of my success is in panic mode as such....but timing it is everything (perhaps I'm simply skilled at being the first to panic under any crypto circumstance) ..whatever...works for me
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April 12, 2018, 06:52:59 AM |
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90% of my crypto profits are made during a 2 hour span of time on 'game day' when some altcoin is going nuts bounding up and down with tons of volume. The rest of the time is just shooting the shit.
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April 12, 2018, 07:02:12 AM |
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Sudden $200 drop anyone?
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April 12, 2018, 07:20:07 AM |
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Sudden $200 drop anyone?
Typical high frequency trading scam
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April 12, 2018, 07:29:38 AM |
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Sudden $200 drop anyone?
Yes, Threshold we can't break is still falling. A week ago it was 7,5k, now it's 7k Also Alts are rising and BTC dominance is decreasing once again. Not looking good from my point of view.
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April 12, 2018, 07:44:07 AM |
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For the senior citizens, Canned Heat in 1968, "Amphetamine Annie".
This is a song with a message I want you to heed my warning I wanna tell you all a story About this chick I know They call her "Amphetamine Annie" She's always shovelling snow I sat her down and told her I told her crystal clear "I don't mind you getting high But there's one thing you should fear" "Your mind might think its flying, baby On those little pills But you ought to know it's dying, 'cause Speed kills" But Annie kept on speeding Her health was getting poor She saw things in the window She heard things at the door Her mind was like a grinding mill Her lips were cracked and sore Her skin was turning yellow I just couldn't take it no more She thought her mind was flying On those little pills She didn't it was going down fast, 'cause Speed kills Well I sat her down and told her I told her one more time "The whole wide human race has taken Far too much methedrine" She said "I don't care what a Limey says I've got to get it on I'm not here to just see no man Who come from across the pond She wouldn't heed my warning Lord, she wouldn't hear what I said Now she's in the graveyard, and she's Awfully dead
Sure... why not?? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FdU7eeKT.png&t=665&c=KAEwUBDkTv1Y-Q)
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April 12, 2018, 07:44:14 AM |
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Sudden $200 drop anyone?
Typical high frequency trading scam Typical clueless n00b response...
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April 12, 2018, 07:46:56 AM |
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Switching to BFX as that seems to have price leadership. Bitstamp broke over the line (barely) but not much happened. BFX balked before the line. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.ibb.co%2Ff14L7H%2F98_BA3693_42_B3_4_F0_F_81_B8_ADF7_F9_B2_F2_E7.png&t=665&c=vwrb586U_kp4kA)
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