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April 15, 2019, 11:53:24 AM Last edit: April 15, 2019, 12:51:11 PM by Retina |
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I'm in a dark mood right now, like in the picture. ~snip~ And the stupidest thing is that I can't understand why it's like this. The price of an BTC seems to be growing gradually, but I am still sad for some reason. ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) why you are sad? BTCBTC now trying stable for recovery altcoin token/coin, I hope that BTC price soon $6000 i am not sure next level it is pump or dump but is sure that huge movement soon.
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Happy Bangla new year, thanks all Bitcoin lover celebrite "Elish and Pantha" Happy Bengali New year bro. is this a "Choka" along with fish? Yes, brother It very testy If you ever visit our country I'll feed you this food
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April 15, 2019, 12:17:50 PM |
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I'm hoping for some news from Elwar. They're going to fucking steal his home, but at least I'd like to know he's free and safe.
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April 15, 2019, 12:24:13 PM |
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I'm hoping for some news from Elwar. They're going to fucking steal his home, but at least I'd like to know he's free and safe.
It is a real shame. I believe his intentions were to free himself and anyone staying on the seasteads from any government influence and laws. Seems like there is no safe haven left on earth. Hmmmm maybe on the moon? Come on Bitcoin take us there. Hope your ok Elwar.
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April 15, 2019, 12:25:11 PM |
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I figured the basics were pretty well covered, I would have presumed including some conversations with the right people pre it being installed.
Not the total surprise to the "authorities" that article implies.
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April 15, 2019, 12:25:38 PM |
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@JSRAW
The view is better than the picture does it justice. There are better seats in the stadium but there are a lot worse. I pay approx £50 per game.
On topic - Regarding Elwar, I feel sorry for him if they restrict where he can live etc but it’s a bit weird any way imo. Why would you want to live there regardless of any tax breaks/avoidance etc.
He’s rich AF. I’m sure he could buy a beautiful house on land & create bogus companies to enable some kind of tax avoidance. Good luck to him but I dunno, was kinda dumb to begin with.
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April 15, 2019, 12:26:39 PM Last edit: April 15, 2019, 12:40:42 PM by vapourminer |
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Highly unfortunate development. I thought Elwar had tacit approval or acquiescence for the seastead. I wonder where the disconnect is. i think he was counting on "flying under the radar" on this one. might be wrong though. definitely sucks but without some sort of formal agreement in place it was bound to happen sooner or later. easy enough to tow to top unit somewhere else but the spar would be harder. might be easier to just sink it. coral will grow on it (already has some i believe) and its just another part of the seabed ecology at that point, so it not pollution. i believe they would have to notify some authority or other that they sunk it with the details of what it is, where etc. anyway hes proved the point that can be done. not many can say that abount a whole new tech. pioneers always expect setbacks. im sure elwar will take it in stride and move on. that penalty. man. doesnt leave much room for negotiation does it. gotta look up that law, im sure its so draconian for a reason, at least back then when it was passed. stay safe elwar! looking forward to updates.
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April 15, 2019, 12:38:21 PM Last edit: April 15, 2019, 12:48:27 PM by somac. |
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On topic - Regarding Elwar, I feel sorry for him if they restrict where he can live etc but it’s a bit weird any way imo. Why would you want to live there regardless of any tax breaks/avoidance etc.
He’s rich AF. I’m sure he could buy a beautiful house on land & create bogus companies to enable some kind of tax avoidance. Good luck to him but I dunno, was kinda dumb to begin with.
Was it a tax thing for him though? I thought it was more of an ideology thing. And if so, governments are very corrupt, I can understand him trying to remove himself from their influence. Not what I would do, I prefer to stay and fight, but I absolutely support him. I very much hope he and his wife are well, and can get themselves out of any trouble.
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April 15, 2019, 12:54:49 PM |
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Another day another HODL let us proceed accumulating precious coins - HODLing and repeat.
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April 15, 2019, 01:32:27 PM |
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The Thais recently threatened the death penalty to people taking selfies in front of planes taking off.
You can also be jailed for disrespecting the king there by stomping on his face when your banknote is caught by the wind. ....
As far as I understand this scenario, its for tourist's own safety. The tourists do dumb things all the time just for some cheap excitement. The death penalty does sound extreme tho. On another hand, western media exaggerate the news quite a bit when it comes to Asian countries I am sure if you follow the local news there would be a different angle on the very same news. 90% that's a case. Thai's royalties especially kings considered God there. people literally worship them and they have blind faith in them. Happy Bengali New year bro. is this a "Choka" along with fish?
Yes, brother It very testy If you ever visit our country I'll feed you this food Thanks, Dada, I have been to Dhaka once, I have a couple of friends who live in Cox Bazar. never visited there but would love to go there sometime. I have many Bihari and Bengali friends and as you know already "Choka" is go to dish for Biharis. I am Indian ( Kashmiri by birth) @JSRAW
The view is better than the picture does it justice. There are better seats in the stadium but there are a lot worse. I pay approx £50 per game.
Yeah, tell me about that, have personally experienced bad seats in games ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) - seats behind the random pillar- lol About @Elwar : This is bad news but I am sure he can get away with this situation with bribing tbh every system has some kind of loopholes. Just hope for the best.
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April 15, 2019, 01:35:12 PM |
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Another day another HODL let us proceed accumulating precious coins - HODLing and repeat.
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HODLING in bull markets is for sissies. HODLING in bear markets is for men. HODLING in bear and dull markets increasing your HODLStash is for real men.
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April 15, 2019, 01:38:12 PM |
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It seems like it's going to be impounded or destroyed
WTF ?
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April 15, 2019, 01:47:26 PM |
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Did you get that from Elwar?
if yes then please post a link as well. Will share his post everywhere in my social media. Thanks, Bud
Linkedin, Quora, Art community, Twitter ...........
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April 15, 2019, 01:52:58 PM |
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Poor Elwar ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) Such a shame. I hope this won't smash the dream or hit him too hard financially. Dude is a an inspiration and I tip my hat to him for perusing liberty & sovereignty. Somehow I'm not surprised TPTB crashed the party so easily. Guess you can't just step over the government no matter what loophole you exploit. Hoping he'll bounce from this and BTC will offer a much better opportunity soon. Spar can be easily moved to new location. So yes ofcourse wee costs to set it in this place, but I am sure he will survive. They accused Chad Andrew Elwartowski and his Thai wife, Supranee Thepdet, with an English alias of Nadia Summergirl, of breaching Section 119 of Criminal Code. The section concerns any acts that cause the country or parts of it to fall under the sovereignty of a foreign state or deterioration of the state's independence.
That part is a total bullshit. Whoever will try to prove this will have serious troubles.
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April 15, 2019, 02:11:44 PM |
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Hello WO, BTC is still over $5K (precisely $5,145). Good to see that. I hope it stay over this $5k level although there are some probabilities to be around $4.8k. Pros are now slightly net negative, Institutions covered some losses, & Retail is alone on Bull Island
This data is always delayed, but, this alone gives the impression that we will either set a Bull trap on a HH or double top ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FtN74ITB.jpg&t=665&c=1ippcAVoTG5NbA)
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April 15, 2019, 02:12:27 PM |
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This is less than an hour old.
Statement from Chad Elwartowski:
PLEASE SHARE THIS POST OUR LIVES DEPEND ON IT
This is ridiculous. We lived on a floating house boat for a few weeks and now Thailand wants us killed.
We had to go underground because our contact warned us before this came out. Now we found out they are using a US submarine to hunt us. I'll say it right here.
Nadia and I did not design, construct or pay to have the seastead constructed. We promoted it and lived on it. We helped out by giving the builder updates and we participated in the launch. We did not decide where to put the seastead. We are enthusiastic supporters of the project who were lucky enough to be the first ones to stay on it.
Hunting us down to our death is just plain stupid and highlights exactly the reason someone would be willing to go out in middle of the ocean to get away from governments.
We never had any ill intentions and I even state plainly several times that I would not want to be a citizen of any seastead nation that would have me. We were hoping to bring tourism to Phuket with an underwater restaurant, floating hotels and medical research, tech jobs, etc. We had 3 wealthy entrepreneurs in the past week tell us they were coming to live in Phuket because they were excited about the project. We love Thailand. Nadia is a proud Thai. She is a proud Buddhist who does not support violence. I am a pacifist who would not harm a fly.
What we need:
Lawyers or anyone high up in the administration in Thailand to talk some sense into your military leaders.
Someone high up in the US that can help. I need to be able to go to the US embassy in Bangkok or some place near Phuket to get me out of the country. I need ideas for helping Nadia, a Thai citizen. She needs an embassy in Bangkok where she can seek asylum.
Nadia is just my girlfriend. She played no role in planning anything with the seastead. She just took video and stayed on the seastead with me. E-mail me at elwartowski@protonmail . com if you can help (not just suggestions...serious help).
Neither Nadia nor I are suicidal. We would never in our wildest dreams commit suicide. I want to live to the ripe age of at least 200. I love life. We love life together. We just wanted to be free. If just for one day.
Going to break etiquette and essentially bump my own post to the newest page. Elwar is one of our own and I want to make sure people see his post and help if they can or at the very least know that he is for the moment being safe. I don’t think the one bump per 24 hours thing is enforced in the WO thread mate so bump away ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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April 15, 2019, 02:12:38 PM |
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It seems like it's already in the process of being destroyed. Yes I posted to fast before I read the rest of posts, but your last post made me confused. Statement from Chad Elwartowski: Nadia and I did not design, construct or pay to have the seastead constructed. We promoted it and lived on it. We helped out by giving the builder updates and we participated in the launch. We did not decide where to put the seastead. We are enthusiastic supporters of the project who were lucky enough to be the first ones to stay on it.
If this is true then Thai army claims might be more true then what I thought so far.
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