Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion

[fabiorem]

There are currently only 2.8-3.5 mil btc owners with more than 1 BTC.
I doubt that there will be many more.
Compare it to more than 40mil millionaires in the World and about 5 million millionaires with wealth above 5mil (3.2885 mil with wealth of $5-10mil).
So, basically, having ONE btc is the equivalent (in rarity) of having $5-10mil in fiat wealth.

https://medium.com/@BambouClub/are-you-in-the-bitcoin-1-a-new-model-of-the-distribution-of-bitcoin-wealth-6adb0d4a6a95
+ google global wealth report, there is a pdf link there.

You found one possible value for bitcoin, if its adopted as currency.

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[kenzawak]

Coindesk asked Consensus attendees to reveal their Bitcoin predictions for 2020 - have a look!

https://youtu.be/emrFJ3WVYSA

[lightfoot]

Looks like we're stuck at 8,000. Boring.....

[ssmc2]

Still the best TA chart ever....

https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/a47Kioh9-The-One-Coin-to-Rule-Them-All-Chapter-II/?utm_source=notification_email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=notification_follower_idea_update

[Gyrsur]

I'm wondering why we stuck on this price level and then I realized that we reached a massive resistance zone with at least 5 areas from the past on the weekly chart. Probably we need here much more FOMO and half-nacked climbing girls then before to get through to 10k!

[Toxic2040]

Hi guys. I kirreev070 my account was banned. A few months ago I talked here, but due to some problems I was forced to leave the forum for a while.
Can you help my?

I created post in Meta
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5143616.new#new

[600watt]

An OG with 50k coins will have more power than most countries do now.
~150 of them will have half the world's wealth.
By far the most people will not have any money at all.
Bitcoin will bring about a new feudal technocracy.
But first, complete chaos.

That very well may be, but how exactly would you exert that wealth without spending precious bitcoin and thereby, reducing your bitcoin stash?
Bitcoin lending? Why would some lend a deflationary asset? Borrowing cash against your btc stash? That can turn ugly at 80% drawdown.
Bitcoin interest-a ridiculous idea that is not even practical without someone rehypothicating bitcoin, which should be a bad habit.
I am close to 100% certain that blockFi will kick the bucket at one point or another.

You could do lending  crypto to crypto with a smart contract with assets put on the line as collateral but of course this would need to be all cleared by the government as binding before anyone would risk it.

Yes, my point is that you cannot do anything without spending or somehow lending it out, so OGs will have difficulty influencing much, unless some secondary markets develop.

They could buy stock in Volkswagen as they own Lamborghini and that shits going to spike. That might be a safe bet actually 😉

LOL..so that 2008 superspike in Volkswagen stock was maybe a premonition of things to come? JK
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-volkswagen/short-sellers-make-vw-the-worlds-priciest-firm-idUSTRE49R3I920081028

bitcoin was the second time in my life that i tried to invest in something. first time was ... well... the dotcom bubble. i had $10k to invest, went to my bank and told i want to invest in tech companies. my banker gave me a list of stocks he would recommend. i invested $9k in internet stocks and told him i want to put $1k in something as far away from internet stocks as possible. he did not like that idea and tried to talk me out of it. i insisted and picked volkswagen. wasn´t a hot stock at that time, the banker shook his head.
a few days later the dot com bubble bursts and within just a few days my portfolio went down from $10k to $1k (the VW shares did not move a bit), all tech stock i had was worth only pennies. i bought the very very top of a multiyear bubble. man, i got so mad. i swore to myself i would fucking hold that those vw shares until they 10folded, so i would come out clean.   everyone told me it was a stupid idea because stocks of car companies never 10fold. 8 years later (!) the vw shares made a sudden 10fold and i sold right away. the banker never looked into my eyes again and i had learned a big lesson.
when i bought my first bitcoin it again was at the very top of a bubble. bitcoin started a 90% nose dive one day after i bought.
i still own the dot com bubble stock. still worth only pennies. in harsh contrast to the btc i bought.

[toknormal]

BTC breaking out.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Oh my...

https://twitter.com/CharlieShrem/status/1128672742935494656



Next planned fork >>>

LOL

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[Biodom]

An OG with 50k coins will have more power than most countries do now.
~150 of them will have half the world's wealth.
By far the most people will not have any money at all.
Bitcoin will bring about a new feudal technocracy.
But first, complete chaos.

That very well may be, but how exactly would you exert that wealth without spending precious bitcoin and thereby, reducing your bitcoin stash?
Bitcoin lending? Why would some lend a deflationary asset? Borrowing cash against your btc stash? That can turn ugly at 80% drawdown.
Bitcoin interest-a ridiculous idea that is not even practical without someone rehypothicating bitcoin, which should be a bad habit.
I am close to 100% certain that blockFi will kick the bucket at one point or another.

You could do lending  crypto to crypto with a smart contract with assets put on the line as collateral but of course this would need to be all cleared by the government as binding before anyone would risk it.

Yes, my point is that you cannot do anything without spending or somehow lending it out, so OGs will have difficulty influencing much, unless some secondary markets develop.

They could buy stock in Volkswagen as they own Lamborghini and that shits going to spike. That might be a safe bet actually 😉

LOL..so that 2008 superspike in Volkswagen stock was maybe a premonition of things to come? JK
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-volkswagen/short-sellers-make-vw-the-worlds-priciest-firm-idUSTRE49R3I920081028

bitcoin was the second time in my life that i tried to invest in something. first time was ... well... the dotcom bubble. i had $10k to invest, went to my bank and told i want to invest in tech companies. my banker gave me a list of stocks he would recommend. i invested $9k in internet stocks and told him i want to put $1k in something as far away from internet stocks as possible. he did not like that idea and tried to talk me out of it. i insisted and picked volkswagen. wasn´t a hot stock at that time, the banker shook his head.
a few days later the dot com bubble bursts and within just a few days my portfolio went down from $10k to $1k (the VW shares did not move a bit), all tech stock i had was worth only pennies. i bought the very very top of a multiyear bubble. man, i got so mad. i swore to myself i would fucking hold that those vw shares until they 10folded, so i would come out clean.   everyone told me it was a stupid idea because stocks of car companies never 10fold. 8 years later (!) the vw shares made a sudden 10fold and i sold right away. the banker never looked into my eyes again and i had learned a big lesson.
when i bought my first bitcoin it again was at the very top of a bubble. bitcoin started a 90% nose dive one day after i bought.
i still own the dot com bubble stock. still worth only pennies. in harsh contrast to the btc i bought.

What a cool story, thanks...
I first made quite well on internet stocks (being an investment newbie back then), then lost almost EVERYTHING, apart from money I cashed out during 1997-2001 on family expenses and a house downpayment. Had to rebuild my stocks back from a low number, mostly in retirement accounts, but, hey, I got a house out of it back then.
The propensity for "risky" bets reared it's head again with btc, lol.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

BTC breaking out.

$8,247!!!

[Biodom]

BTC breaking out.

$8,247!!!

kawabangaaa!

[fillippone]

Oh my...

https://twitter.com/CharlieShrem/status/1128672742935494656



Next planned fork >>>

SBTC is actually a real BTC fork: Superbitcoin (SBTC)

https://forkdrop.io/super-bitcoin

[Last of the V8s]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4919568.msg51068122#msg51068122
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[kenzawak]

Looong read (I'll save it for another day but seems interesting) :

Bitcoin’s Security is Fine
(by Dan Held)

https://blog.picks.co/bitcoins-security-is-fine-93391d9b61a8

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

BTC breaking out.

$8,247!!!

kawabangaaa!

$8,129

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4919568.msg51068122#msg51068122
  then 

Okay I saw the moon LOL

[Biodom]

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4919568.msg51068122#msg51068122
  then 

His other scenarios (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4919568.msg51061990#msg51061990) are quite reasonable, but the one above is a bit hard to believe even as a possibility.
Albeit, who knows.

[El duderino_]

JP Morgan is telling people that the trade war between the US and China could boost safe haven currencies.

Bitcoin is the best safe haven currency in the world.

Nervous about global chaos??

Buy the strongest non-sovereign currency.

https://twitter.com/APompliano/status/1128737698565500928

[El duderino_]

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