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[jbreher]

Its over. The debate is finished.

Ummm... what 'debate'?

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[jbreher]

@jbreher (or anyone): what happened to the dragon logo it had at one point?

No idea.

[JayJuanGee]

Roach knows about almost every fucking topic in the world, even though he has demonstrated that he is one of the dumbest asses on the planet

Who's the more foolish? The fool, or the fool who quotes him?

- Obi Wan Nutildah

Um, um, um......

The fool is the more foolish?....



Hahahaha...




I am not falling for your reverse psychological attempt at a trap, and I will quote whomever I like.  

Roach knows about almost every fucking topic in the world, even though he has demonstrated that he is one of the dumbest asses on the planet

Who's the more foolish? The fool, or the fool who quotes him?

- Obi Wan Nutildah

But But, JJG was being nice, white knighting along with you  

I don't recall every white knighting anyone.  You mean that if I say something nice about roach then that is white-knighting?  my comment about roach was a kind of sarcasm, so that would not be white knighting, right?  You might have a misunderstanding of white-knighting mic, unless I am just confused about the reference.

I've also been guilty of engaging with roach, but that was more like a limited experiment, whereas JJG seems to do it on the regs.

The quoting of roach is all relative.. and discretionary, too.  I stick to my earlier position to exercise discretion as I see fit, and to not fall into any attempts at reverse psychology traps.     

[JayJuanGee]

BS goals or worthy endeavor (FI/RE)?

https://nypost.com/2019/10/08/inside-the-strange-secretive-lives-of-rich-millennial-cheapskates/

I think that peeps on WO with significant coinage might want to spare some for a better living.
Otherwise, all that sat stacking is for what?
Frugality has it's pluses, but there are also a lot of minuses.
Essentially, you would have a bunch of money when you are old, however, when you are old, your plans are typically limited.

Great financial advice... to be frugal and then retire early.  It's called deferred gratification, and if you end up retiring before you are 50 or something like that, then there could be plenty of time to enjoy the fruits of such early in life frugalities.

[JayJuanGee]

Fuck politics get back to Bitcoin, why don't we go up? I was told to enjoy $16k in October. Where is it? 18 days left to November,

Who the fuck told you that?  You want me to beat them up for you?

Or maybe you are the one who deserves a beating for relying on promises (and then propagating such nonsensical promises) when anyone with any kind of scintilla of common sense in bitcoinlandia should realize that there is no such thing as a promise in bitcoin, especially when it comes to short-term price movements.  AmiNOTrite?

Asuka needs get her shit back together as soon as possible. People's dreams are on the line here. All those lambos, hoos, parties, yachts... Get back to work Asuka enough lollygagging

Who is Asuka?  Has she participated in this thread or been quoted in this thread in any kind of memorially significant way?

some anon on reddit and yes, he/she was quoted repeatedly.
All these predictions always fall apart sooner or later, even the one from the "time traveler", which was quite successful, is about to kick the bucket at the EOY.
The "citadels" idea might persist, though.

Hm?  I don't recall seeing those predictions in this thread, so I suppose it is not memorial for me.  Perhaps, I am not reading this thread (and retaining) as thoroughly as I should be... for some strange reason.

[JayJuanGee]

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I don't believe we're still in a bull market no, but that's complete subjective to the time-frame. Why do you assume I'm putting such reliance on negative projections? I hodl long-term and accumulate more as the price drops. A short call doesn't necessarily mean I'm going to trade it, and in this case I definitely wouldn't as a bounce is due at anytime to re-test $9K, so clearly way too risky. It's simply what certain indicators and comparisons are telling me. I don't just blindly follow them, that would be ridiculous.

Just because probability is telling me one thing, doesn't mean it will occur, that should be obvious to be honest.
Buy the f**king dip. That better?

I cannot really disagree with much, if any, part of your clarification. 




 

[Biodom]

Fuck politics get back to Bitcoin, why don't we go up? I was told to enjoy $16k in October. Where is it? 18 days left to November,

Who the fuck told you that?  You want me to beat them up for you?

Or maybe you are the one who deserves a beating for relying on promises (and then propagating such nonsensical promises) when anyone with any kind of scintilla of common sense in bitcoinlandia should realize that there is no such thing as a promise in bitcoin, especially when it comes to short-term price movements.  AmiNOTrite?

Asuka needs get her shit back together as soon as possible. People's dreams are on the line here. All those lambos, hoos, parties, yachts... Get back to work Asuka enough lollygagging

Who is Asuka?  Has she participated in this thread or been quoted in this thread in any kind of memorially significant way?

some anon on reddit and yes, he/she was quoted repeatedly.
All these predictions always fall apart sooner or later, even the one from the "time traveler", which was quite successful, is about to kick the bucket at the EOY.
The "citadels" idea might persist, though.

Hm?  I don't recall seeing those predictions in this thread, so I suppose it is not memorial for me.  Perhaps, I am not reading this thread (and retaining) as thoroughly as I should be... for some strange reason.

Yes, it was discussed here and you even merited this.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg52289353#msg52289353

the only thing is i am not sure if that Anon is the one prior poster related to. maybe not. In any case, this is the only viral prediction on reddit that i was aware of.

[jbreher]

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Current situation......

It’s cryptoqueeen ‘s BDay dinner

Cheers
Observers

Well we've got our differences, goose. But I respect you. You and cryptoqueen.

Happity Birfday.

[jbreher]

There are some pretty severe security concerns around Casa Hodl at the moment. 

https://twitter.com/jwweatherman_/status/1182486419580866560?s=21

Hmmm. Lopp-Meister FTW.

[jbreher]

if you want to trade on BitMEX: they don't like small boys.

OohKaaay... Why TF would anyone want to trade on bitmex?

[Negotiation]

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Current situation......

It’s cryptoqueeen ‘s BDay dinner

Cheers
Observers

Well we've got our differences, goose. But I respect you. You and cryptoqueen.

Happity Birfday.

how happy birthday  is is only drinking time.

[realr0ach]

That's an opinion too, but development must go on.

Stupid bugman comment.  Money does not have "development".  Money is a constant that resists entropy (change) and does not bend to the whims of random retards like you.  Anything with "development" is nothing but a Keynesian scam.  The Jewish federal reserve note has the same 'development'.  This is why physical metals are money and digital shitcoins do not remotely qualify as such.

[jbreher]

Actually, now I manage to act with cool detachment. A little experience helps, of course, but this system has many soft levers, knobs and faders. The positions, as well as the P&L, evolve slowly over time, more so the more the positions are balanced. That's why I have time to think, calculate, project and act rationally rather than on emotion. The quiet satisfaction of bringing home 1% of my play stash, then 2%, then losing 1% and making up for it in the following 2 weeks doesn't compare to the adrenaline rush of a newfound lambo, of course, but it's good enough for me. And when maybe a couple months later I can stash away 10% or even 30%, I'm glad I found a viable "system" (of sorts) that works for me.

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I almost hesitate to wade in here. But you’re an old comrade. You speak of ‘cool detachment’. And when the Korn is being sedate, that’s fine. But all experience hath shewn that a strategy build on sedateness will be a losing strategy when everything goes skyward. Which it does.

[realr0ach]

Roach knows about almost every fucking topic in the world

I was a U-boat sailor
Sinking Jew ships on the tide
Sending them straight to hell where they abide
Roosevelt sent a schooner built in Mexico
It exploded because it was built in Mexico and I got killed
But I am living still

[jbreher]

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If one of the other Bitcoins does indeed capture more market cap than BTC in the future, will you concede that that other fork will indeed be Bitcoin?

You cannot really believe that "the real bitcoin" is based on market cap, can you? 

‘zackly. What else you got?

[realr0ach]

What else you got?

https://dailystormer.name/poll-should-we-ask-one-of-these-ufos-for-help-against-the-jews-or-wait-for-the-interstellar-space-object-coming-our-way/

[jojo69]

I almost hesitate to wade in here. But you’re an old comrade. You speak of ‘cool detachment’. And when the Korn is being sedate, that’s fine. But all experience hath shewn that a strategy build on sedateness will be a losing strategy when everything goes skyward. Which it does.

A great warrior poet once said  “everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth”.

[d_eddie]

Am I the only one who thinks that the US ain't going to vote for Yang only because he looks so Chinese-ish?

Giant swaths of the population want to vote for someone who isn't white. Yang is the only one in the top 5 contenders according to betting odds who fits this description.

IMO racism/hate against Asians in America today is almost nonexistent. Tons of people have a problem with Whites, Hispanics, Blacks, Gays, Trans, Virgin Roach's, Bankers, and Arabs, but everyone seems to be cool with Asians. This is based on the hard science of my anecdotal life experience and borderline incontrovertible. 

Thanks, it's nice to know that. I'd have merited if I had any sMerit in my bag.

When will we be able to trade satoshis for some sMerits?

I think it's already happening (not here probably).

Duly merited for you

[realr0ach]

Am I the only one who thinks that the US ain't going to vote for Yang only because he looks so Chinese-ish?

People aren't voting for Yang because he's a piece of shit, CFR puppet trying to implement communism and spamming people with c02 hoaxes and gun confiscation.  Are you people this stupid that you have not yet realized the CFR just fabricates a list of puppets for each side in each election to give you the illusion of choice when they're all grade Z, puppet actors?  The solution is simple.  Since all that exists are Jew puppets pretending to be your 'leader', do not comply with anything they say or do.  Hard to be a puppet 'leader' when nobody will acknowledge you even exist.

[JayJuanGee]

That's the spirit, d_eddie!!!!   I was not trying to bust your balls over anything, especially in terms of some of the Opsec issues or even the potential "trade secret" problems that could come from too many "trading disclosures;"

I know. I don't think I'm busting my opsec, and I have no issue with would-be copycats. Firstly, I doubt there are any copycats in this context, and secondly my trading is labor-intensive enough to discourage the average lazy ass.

That sounds correct.

yet frequently talking about trading strategies after they have been deployed should be less of a risk of the copy cat problem.. and sure if you want to refer to some kind of practice that you do in kind of an obscure way, that might be understandable too if you are trying to retain it as a kind of possible personal "trade secret" advantage that you believe that you might have.

No issue about the possible edge I could gain through my perfect, infallible personal trade secrets either.

One issue I have is that I try not to "jinx it", so to say. IOW, if a whale sniffing our waters figures my thinking is sound in a given context, and reckons many traders might be aligned with my entry points or moves, they could try and force a few stops just because they can. This is a good reason to be vague enough for the casual hunter not to sniff pray, while entertaining a meaningful conversation with like-minded gentlemen (or scoundrels, or different minded, for that matter).

Surely, that makes sense.

By the way, you are quite unlikely to get me attempting to even employ your various strategies,

Your numerous and extensive posts made this point quite clear  

Great.  You don't consider me as a potential trade secret robber.   

even though I frequently sigh some relief (when I read them) that I am NOT attempting to employ them (even if there may be considerable market move times that you could well likely be stacking decently more sats than me).  

Actually, now I manage to act with cool detachment. A little experience helps, of course, but this system has many soft levers, knobs and faders. The positions, as well as the P&L, evolve slowly over time, more so the more the positions are balanced. That's why I have time to think, calculate, project and act rationally rather than on emotion. The quiet satisfaction of bringing home 1% of my play stash, then 2%, then losing 1% and making up for it in the following 2 weeks doesn't compare to the adrenaline rush of a newfound lambo, of course, but it's good enough for me.

There is a certain level of satisfaction that comes from stacking sats, even if the process is a bit drawn out, and furthermore, you seem to have developed your own renditions and/or signature techniques.  Of course, there may be some guys (and maybe even a gal or two) who does something similar to you, but surely, your personal investment into your technique has caused you to have a kind of expertise in your own customization, whether truly SOMA or just outwardly proclaimed for modesty sakes as such... hahahahaha.

And when maybe a couple months later I can stash away 10% or even 30%, I'm glad I found a viable "system" (of sorts) that works for me.

Lambos, hookers and blow are on their way, including the fact that many of us, including yours truly, have stacked our strategies to be more weighted towards long, so even though the lambos, hookers and blow are not 100% guaranteed, there is decent likelihood that they are on their way and also, even if scenarios play out that are less than lambos, hookers and blow, then many of us, especially those of us who are stacking towards long and likely including those of us who attempt to prepare for price directions that go both ways, are still quite likely to become a decent amount better off in both our psychology and our finances from our having been involved in bitcoin.   Of course, a going to zero situation would also be amongst the worst possibilities for those of us who are mostly going long, even though you might be able to profit somewhat from that kind of scenario.  I also have a preference that BTC prices never return below $5k, especially in years to come, even though I would still likely be profitable with prices in the $1k price arena.. still, it feels a lot better to have decent amounts of equity built up.