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... we need to have the same determination while talking and guiding about Bitcoin. In fact, we should force people to have such determination it will greatly help us to be more loyal to Bitcoin. ...



Bitcoin needs no loyalty.  It's just an invention... Would you say you are loyal to the electric grid? Or loyal to roads, trains or to your washing machine?  
Either people use it for their own advantage or not

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Yes you have reason in what you said, i tooked some good info and facts he give in the past, im not saying all he say its a nonsense, but a long time ago, like in 2017 i think, i heard him a lot, and in sometime he start to say some things that are lies, or really not correct, i dont remember now what were that things, im talking about.

But was something like (im gonna invent), in Chicago the cost of the energy its 5 usd per Kw/h, and you live in Chicago and the cost of the energy its 2 usd per Kw/h. And it wasnt only one time i catched him saying this kind of things, so.....

But after that i cant recover my trust in him. So i hear what he say but i try to took what it can be true.
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Robert F Kennedy Jr Keynote - Bitcoin 2023
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Robert F Kennedy says all of the right things about freedom and Bitcoin, but he's a politician.  what do you think?
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Yes you have reason in what you said, i tooked some good info and facts he give in the past, im not saying all he say its a nonsense, but a long time ago, like in 2017 i think, i heard him a lot, and in sometime he start to say some things that are lies, or really not correct, i dont remember now what were that things, im talking about.

But was something like (im gonna invent), in Chicago the cost of the energy its 5 usd per Kw/h, and you live in Chicago and the cost of the energy its 2 usd per Kw/h. And it wasnt only one time i catched him saying this kind of things, so.....

But after that i cant recover my trust in him. So i hear what he say but i try to took what it can be true.

Well of course, you have to come to your own conclusions regarding whether you believe that he is trying to be genuine or not, and if you believe that he is making misrepresentations that you believe to have had been discrediting.

Personally, I have no problem with him or with some other people who are outstandingly pro-bitcoin in a variety of ways yet might seem to have strong personalities and/or strong egos and even make some exaggerated statements in order to make various points.

Overall, I find people who are either attacking Keiser or Bukele or even some of the pro-bitcoiners to either getting distracted by character or trying to get others distracted by character, when it seems to me that Keiser is largely correct about a lot of things, even if sometimes he says some seemingly outrageous things to be attacking bankers or status quo financial institutions.. and sometimes he is joking and sometimes he is not... you have not really pointed to any kind of material representation that I would consider to undermine him and you just seem to be saying that mostly you do not trust him, and I would say the opposite..

Mostly I trust Keiser, even though I have found a few things that he has done or said to be a little disagreeable, but I am not so bothered as to suggest that he is not mostly credible. .which I think that he is largely directionally correct.. just like most of the bitcoin maxis are mostly directionally correct on the topics of bitcoin and macro economics, even though some of the bitcoin maxis may have made some decently BIG human flaws and some of them seem to have developed BIG egos.. but even if we get to know some members of our families, sometimes we will find them to be irritating in some ways even if we might trust them in terms of some things (topics) but do not trust them or their judgement with other things (topics), and if we might be talking about Keiser in terms of his relationship with El Salvador and with Bukele.. it seems to me that Keiser (and Stacy Herbert) and there are a few other famous bitcoiners who are involved in various business and diplomatic deals with Bukele in terms of both promoting El Salvador as a country (and as a bitcoin country) and promoting bitcoin as something that is being promoted and propagated in El Salvador and in other countries.. and I find those things to be good things to be doing with his fame (to the extent that he is famous.. and his frequent criticisms of Jaime Diamond and some of the insider banking baloney that Keiser has some decently good insider knowledge on those kinds of topics which are also directionally correct, even if sometimes exaggerated).  So in some sense both bitcoin and El Salvador are underdogs that need defending.. and in that sense, I have no problems with Keiser to the extent that you believe that he might have made some incredible statements that you have not exactly outlined in such a way that I find to be lacking in credit in the whole scheme of things.

Robert F Kennedy Jr Keynote - Bitcoin 2023
https://youtu.be/fz7FPl065II
Robert F Kennedy says all of the right things about freedom and Bitcoin, but he's a politician.  what do you think?

Even though his speech was a little bit short (right around 20 minutes), I do think that he made a lot of good pro-bitcoiner points coming from a politician (or politician wannabe).

His voice is a bit scratchy.. and hopefully he will be able to give a lot of speeches in his proposed ongoing presidential campaign.. that could end up lasting a year and a half... if he can last for that whole duration as a candidate.
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Surely we are still early when it comes to adoption as a networking effect... and surely there is also asymetric information going on for a lot of the bitcoin naysayers and for an overwhelming number of the population who are ongoingly negative about bitcoin...

Sucks to be a no coiner who is also a naysayer like uie-pooie seem to be FinePoine0..

Hopefully you gots ur lil selfie a few coins in case it catches on.. but hey.. whatever, if you prefer to chase the train at a later date, then no problem, that's your choice...

guys/gals like you will figure it out sooner or later, and whether you end up kicking yourself or not is likely another question that you currently feel you are not going to need to address..


If we look closely at the past few years, we see that everything goes miles closer to your opinion, which is the main reason that many people have been waiting for this auspicious time for a long time. Which is just for a good chance. If one does not exploit the future very well, one may have to wait a few more years. I strongly believe that people will try to make the most of these opportunities because they know that good times are coming for Bitcoin.
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Surely we are still early when it comes to adoption as a networking effect... and surely there is also asymetric information going on for a lot of the bitcoin naysayers and for an overwhelming number of the population who are ongoingly negative about bitcoin...

Sucks to be a no coiner who is also a naysayer like uie-pooie seem to be FinePoine0..

Hopefully you gots ur lil selfie a few coins in case it catches on.. but hey.. whatever, if you prefer to chase the train at a later date, then no problem, that's your choice...

guys/gals like you will figure it out sooner or later, and whether you end up kicking yourself or not is likely another question that you currently feel you are not going to need to address..
If we look closely at the past few years, we see that everything goes miles closer to your opinion, which is the main reason that many people have been waiting for this auspicious time for a long time. Which is just for a good chance. If one does not exploit the future very well, one may have to wait a few more years. I strongly believe that people will try to make the most of these opportunities because they know that good times are coming for Bitcoin.

Many of us folks who have been in bitcoin for at least a cycle or two (which seems that it would include you in that group Xinarae*) likely realize that even if we might be a bit skeptical about bitcoin, it tends to be way better to at least get started and to establish some kind of a bitcoin position, even if such position might later turn out to seem rather whimpy (as some members will later find out - no need for names here) rather than to just sit on the sidelines and to fail/refuse to get off of zero.

So at least getting off zero will likely allow for a motive to be better informed about bitcoin, rather than spouting out some of the ongoing nonsensical little jabs at bitcoin like FinePoine0 and some of his seeming compatriots seems to enjoy weaving through various bitcoin threads during times like these (in which the BTC price seems to be having some difficulties figuring out which way it wants to go - even though for sure we know that the bitcoin price does not even have a mind, but which way it goes does have to do with what people/normies are doing, in the aggregate).
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Bitcoin payment app Strike has expanded its business to 65 countries, currently choosing El Salvador as its global headquarter. The founder of this company Jack Mallers said his company Strike was one of the first companies to receive a license from El Salvador. We know that Bitfinex received the first license from El Salvador after crypto currency regulation. El Salvador has been crypto regulated recently, encouraging Bitcoin and cryptocurrency related companies to relocate their headquarters there. El Salvador is slowly moving towards realizing its dream.



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BREAKING: 🇺🇸 U.S. Presidential candidate Robert Kennedy Jr to accept #Bitcoin Lightning payments to his campaign-  the first Presidential campaign ever!



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