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February 11, 2013, 02:41:28 PM
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tbh, i would take my lucky ass back to p2pool, except i'm busy recouping fireducks 400 btc losses.  so far 2 blocks solved in about 20 btc of payments.

maxbtc?  2m+ difficulty before halving, 15 blocks solved, 400 payed out. 

some folks calls it a sling blade, Billy Bob Thornton calls it a kaiser blade

I call it Enhancements

oh, it's on

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February 11, 2013, 03:29:28 PM
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Seriously though, as soon as the non-existing stratum problem is sorted I'll be mining again.
Mining proxy problem was fixed in https://github.com/forrestv/p2pool/commit/2dffea0 over month ago.
Do you have current version of p2pool? Or use updated public node?

Hello again Rav3n,

Yeah, installed the latest version. Tried it on two different Linux rigs as well as a windoze 7 64 setup - same thing. Thing is, it's only p2pool that gives me stratum issues, every other pool I use with stratum works perfectly....

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February 11, 2013, 10:40:46 PM
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I observed odd thing (TRC node, but probably same thing on all other)
1. stop nodedelete saved sharechain, start node, allow to run over 24hrs = memory usage stops at 100MB
2. stop node and start it again (no delete) = just after start it is already 130MB just after start.
3. stop node, delete sharechain, allow to load it = around 70MB and slowly rising to 100MB over 24hrs.
Something is wrong in share storing imo..

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February 14, 2013, 11:38:34 AM
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I'v got ~9% invalid shares. Is this normal?

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February 14, 2013, 12:43:13 PM
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I'v got ~9% invalid shares. Is this normal?

9% DOA isn't normal, 9% DOA + stale is better than avg (most of the time), 9% stale would be around the median

oh

i just looked at SS, so I guess those wouldnt be orphans, they'd be DOA?  yeah, that's high

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February 14, 2013, 02:15:52 PM
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I'v got ~9% invalid shares. Is this normal?
Try tune miner settings if you not have it done already.
In cgminer set in command line:
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-t 1 -Q 0
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"gpu-threads" : "1",
"queue" : "0",
Default is 2 threads and 1 additional queue what can be source of unwanted doas. We have fast longpools there Smiley
Check also your GBT latency on node graph. It should be 0.5s top.

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February 15, 2013, 08:25:25 AM
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forrestv,

memory and bandwidth: this bandwidth cannot be sustained on a home connection, this is a HDSL line with 3Mb up/down cap and not a standard ADSL.

look at this

http://p2pool.soon.it:9332/static/graphs.html?Day

Something went wrong and memory jumped from 200MB to 1GB overnight.

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February 15, 2013, 04:34:08 PM
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BTW,

see how memory usage grows with the same slope of the number of incoming connections...

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February 15, 2013, 04:46:27 PM
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I am expecting to get out of the bitcoin mining business sooner that later.  At the same time, I am still a fan of p2pool and would be happy to continue to maintain p2pool.info long after I am no longer personally mining.  However, as I shut down my home mining operation and all the servers running in my house that support that operation, I'd like to remove the dependency p2pool.info has on server(s) running inside my house, and I'm hoping someone in the p2pool community can help.

What p2pool.info needs is access to a bitcoind server's RPC interface.  For security reasons, ideally this would be a bitcoind instance that had an empty wallet that had never been used.

These are the RPCs that p2pool.info uses:

* getblockcount
* getdifficulty
* getblockhash
* getblock
* getrawtransaction

As for bitcoin version, it needs to be at least 0.7 as some of the RPCs above were new in 0.7.  If it happens to be running a version of 0.8 or the GIT tree with the new optimized storage structure, it needs to be running with the txindex=1 configuration setting because p2pool.info needs to be able to look at all generation transactions for all blocks.

I'm hoping that someone here is already running bitcoind in a datacenter somewhere and would be willing to let p2pool.info's web server connect to it to watch for p2pool blocks.  If you have a bitcoind server whose RPC interface is accessible over the internet and that you'd be willing to give me access to, please let me know.

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February 15, 2013, 04:52:44 PM
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I am expecting to get out of the bitcoin mining business sooner that later.  At the same time, I am still a fan of p2pool and would be happy to continue to maintain p2pool.info long after I am no longer personally mining.  However, as I shut down my home mining operation and all the servers running in my house that support that operation, I'd like to remove the dependency p2pool.info has on server(s) running inside my house, and I'm hoping someone in the p2pool community can help.

What p2pool.info needs is access to a bitcoind server's RPC interface.  For security reasons, ideally this would be a bitcoind instance that had an empty wallet that had never been used.

These are the RPCs that p2pool.info uses:

* getblockcount
* getdifficulty
* getblockhash
* getblock
* getrawtransaction

As for bitcoin version, it needs to be at least 0.7 as some of the RPCs above were new in 0.7.  If it happens to be running a version of 0.8 or the GIT tree with the new optimized storage structure, it needs to be running with the txindex=1 configuration setting because p2pool.info needs to be able to look at all generation transactions for all blocks.

I'm hoping that someone here is already running bitcoind in a datacenter somewhere and would be willing to let p2pool.info's web server connect to it to watch for p2pool blocks.  If you have a bitcoind server whose RPC interface is accessible over the internet and that you'd be willing to give me access to, please let me know.
Can't you just use Blockchain.info for this?

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February 15, 2013, 04:54:36 PM
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Something went wrong and memory jumped from 200MB to 1GB overnight.

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Please report your python twisted version. Memory was only fixed for twisted 11.2 11.1 and onwards.
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Can't you just use Blockchain.info for this?

It already does pull some information from blockchain.info as a backup method, but it can't get everything from there, mostly because blockchain.info automatically blocks IP addresses that make a lot of requests (which has happened to p2pool.info multiple times).

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February 15, 2013, 05:05:57 PM
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Something went wrong and memory jumped from 200MB to 1GB overnight.

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Linux fedora 3.6.7-4.fc16.i686.PAE #1 SMP Tue Nov 20 20:51:24 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
Please report your python twisted version. Memory was only fixed for twisted 11.2 and onwards.
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Python 2.7.3 (default, Jul 24 2012, 11:41:34)
[GCC 4.6.3 20120306 (Red Hat 4.6.3-2)] on linux2
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> import twisted
>>> print twisted.version
[twisted, version 11.0.0]
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Older... sob, I'm gonna update it asap.

Thanks.

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February 15, 2013, 05:07:49 PM
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Can't you just use Blockchain.info for this?

It already does pull some information from blockchain.info as a backup method, but it can't get everything from there, mostly because blockchain.info automatically blocks IP addresses that make a lot of requests (which has happened to p2pool.info multiple times).

Actually, it appears that they significantly raised their request limiting thresholds, so maybe this would work.  It would mean significantly rewriting some of the p2pool.info code since blockchain.info has a different set of APIs than bitcoind does and p2pool.info's code is built assuming bitcoind.  So if someone does happen to have a bitcoind server, that would still be the easiest for me to migrate to.  If not, I will add to my todo list to rewrite the code to use blockchain.info and we'll just hope blockchain.info doesn't ever go away Smiley

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February 15, 2013, 06:20:51 PM
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I am expecting to get out of the bitcoin mining business sooner that later.  At the same time, I am still a fan of p2pool and would be happy to continue to maintain p2pool.info long after I am no longer personally mining.  However, as I shut down my home mining operation and all the servers running in my house that support that operation, I'd like to remove the dependency p2pool.info has on server(s) running inside my house, and I'm hoping someone in the p2pool community can help.

What p2pool.info needs is access to a bitcoind server's RPC interface.  For security reasons, ideally this would be a bitcoind instance that had an empty wallet that had never been used.

These are the RPCs that p2pool.info uses:

* getblockcount
* getdifficulty
* getblockhash
* getblock
* getrawtransaction

As for bitcoin version, it needs to be at least 0.7 as some of the RPCs above were new in 0.7.  If it happens to be running a version of 0.8 or the GIT tree with the new optimized storage structure, it needs to be running with the txindex=1 configuration setting because p2pool.info needs to be able to look at all generation transactions for all blocks.

I'm hoping that someone here is already running bitcoind in a datacenter somewhere and would be willing to let p2pool.info's web server connect to it to watch for p2pool blocks.  If you have a bitcoind server whose RPC interface is accessible over the internet and that you'd be willing to give me access to, please let me know.
would it have fallbacks?  my bitcoind is on most of the time, but not always..

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February 15, 2013, 06:56:58 PM
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I am expecting to get out of the bitcoin mining business sooner that later.  At the same time, I am still a fan of p2pool and would be happy to continue to maintain p2pool.info long after I am no longer personally mining.  However, as I shut down my home mining operation and all the servers running in my house that support that operation, I'd like to remove the dependency p2pool.info has on server(s) running inside my house, and I'm hoping someone in the p2pool community can help.

What p2pool.info needs is access to a bitcoind server's RPC interface.  For security reasons, ideally this would be a bitcoind instance that had an empty wallet that had never been used.

These are the RPCs that p2pool.info uses:

* getblockcount
* getdifficulty
* getblockhash
* getblock
* getrawtransaction

As for bitcoin version, it needs to be at least 0.7 as some of the RPCs above were new in 0.7.  If it happens to be running a version of 0.8 or the GIT tree with the new optimized storage structure, it needs to be running with the txindex=1 configuration setting because p2pool.info needs to be able to look at all generation transactions for all blocks.

I'm hoping that someone here is already running bitcoind in a datacenter somewhere and would be willing to let p2pool.info's web server connect to it to watch for p2pool blocks.  If you have a bitcoind server whose RPC interface is accessible over the internet and that you'd be willing to give me access to, please let me know.
would it have fallbacks?  my bitcoind is on most of the time, but not always..
yes, we definately need fallback nodes. so in case 1 bitcoind goes down, p2pool goes to the next, same if its lagging.
could you do this forrestv?

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February 15, 2013, 11:27:47 PM
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yes, we definately need fallback nodes. so in case 1 bitcoind goes down, p2pool goes to the next, same if its lagging.
could you do this forrestv?

My post has nothing to do with the actual p2pool software (that forrestv develops).  I'm talking about the p2pool.info website that monitors the blockchain looking for blocks found by the p2pool software. 

Currently, it doesn't have fallback support.  While it is theoretically possible to add it, I'd rather just find a bitcoin instance to talk to that is in theory available 24/7 (baring unplanned downtime) vs something that comes and goes regularly.  If I can't find a 24/7 bitcoin to talk to, I'll suck it up and either keep running my own out of my house, or I'll do the work to point p2pool.info at blockchain.info.

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Can't you just use Blockchain.info for this?

It already does pull some information from blockchain.info as a backup method, but it can't get everything from there, mostly because blockchain.info automatically blocks IP addresses that make a lot of requests (which has happened to p2pool.info multiple times).

Actually, it appears that they significantly raised their request limiting thresholds, so maybe this would work.  It would mean significantly rewriting some of the p2pool.info code since blockchain.info has a different set of APIs than bitcoind does and p2pool.info's code is built assuming bitcoind.  So if someone does happen to have a bitcoind server, that would still be the easiest for me to migrate to.  If not, I will add to my todo list to rewrite the code to use blockchain.info and we'll just hope blockchain.info doesn't ever go away Smiley
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yes, we definately need fallback nodes. so in case 1 bitcoind goes down, p2pool goes to the next, same if its lagging.
could you do this forrestv?

My post has nothing to do with the actual p2pool software (that forrestv develops).  I'm talking about the p2pool.info website that monitors the blockchain looking for blocks found by the p2pool software. 

Currently, it doesn't have fallback support.  While it is theoretically possible to add it, I'd rather just find a bitcoin instance to talk to that is in theory available 24/7 (baring unplanned downtime) vs something that comes and goes regularly.  If I can't find a 24/7 bitcoin to talk to, I'll suck it up and either keep running my own out of my house, or I'll do the work to point p2pool.info at blockchain.info.
Ah, well, it's around 95% for the last 6 months probably.  I tend to shut it down sometimes when doing torrenting or something o' that nature.

bitcoin.sipa.be/seeds.txt has about a page full of 99%'ers

(i'm at 91%, but i think i just got polled at bad times...   like ^^ , around 95%)

What about just using blockchain as a backup for a bitcoind that's > 60s unresponsive?  'though I suppose that'd require you to do the same amt of work on the code

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I seem to be having that memory issue ongoing as well,

Fri Feb 15 2013 22:47:24 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time)   516M
Fri Feb 15 2013 22:44:36 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time)   516M
Fri Feb 15 2013 22:41:48 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time)   516M
Fri Feb 15 2013 22:39:00 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time)   516M
Fri Feb 15 2013 22:36:12 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time)   516M
Fri Feb 15 2013 22:33:24 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time)   516M
Fri Feb 15 2013 22:30:36 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time)   515M
Fri Feb 15 2013 22:27:48 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time)   515M
Fri Feb 15 2013 22:25:00 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time)   515M
Fri Feb 15 2013 22:22:12 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time)   515M
Fri Feb 15 2013 22:19:24 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time)   515M
Fri Feb 15 2013 22:16:36 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time)   514M
Fri Feb 15 2013 22:13:48 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time)   514M
Fri Feb 15 2013 22:11:00 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time)   514M
Fri Feb 15 2013 22:08:12 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time)   513M
Fri Feb 15 2013 22:05:24 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time)   512M
Fri Feb 15 2013 22:02:36 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time)   510M
Fri Feb 15 2013 21:59:48 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time)   508M
Fri Feb 15 2013 21:57:00 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time)   508M
Fri Feb 15 2013 21:54:12 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time)   507M
Fri Feb 15 2013 21:51:24 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time)   507M

it's @ 5.9.24.81:9332, though I don't see anything particularly out of the ordinary.  Looks like it started a bit ago

Fri Feb 15 2013 22:36:00 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time)   516M
Fri Feb 15 2013 22:02:24 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time)   510M
Fri Feb 15 2013 21:28:48 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time)   494M
Fri Feb 15 2013 20:55:12 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time)   475M
Fri Feb 15 2013 20:21:36 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time)   460M
Fri Feb 15 2013 19:48:00 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time)   443M
Fri Feb 15 2013 19:14:24 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time)   427M
Fri Feb 15 2013 18:40:48 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time)   411M
Fri Feb 15 2013 18:07:12 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time)   394M
Fri Feb 15 2013 17:33:36 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time)   377M
Fri Feb 15 2013 17:00:00 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time)   369M

slowed down a lot now.

right before it started occurring i was doing some work on a few of my computers, and the mhash rate was fluctuating quite a bit.

re: http://5.9.24.81:9332/static/graphs.html?Day

ed to insert hyperlink and stop myself from repeating myself.  jaja

Dacentec, best deals for US dedicated servers. They regularly restock $20-$25 Opterons with 8-16GB RAM & 2x1-2TB HDD's (ofc, usually lots of other good stuff to choose from).  I did a Serverbear benchmark of one of my $20/mo Opteron (June last year), it's here.  Have had about a half dozen different servers with Dacentec, & none have failed to sustain at least 40MB/s (burst higher). My favorite is a 12-month rent-to-own ZT Systems 2XL5520 16GB 2x2TB SATA for $40/month (got lucky with the 'off-brand', haven't seen a RTO 2xL5520 for under $50/mo since -- at least for monthly contracts).  wholesaleinternet.com has some ancient 2-core intel CPUs @ $10/mo sometimes (I got an Intel Core 2 6300 @ 1.86GHz, with a 250GB HDD with 46000 hours on it, LOL. $20 @ Dacentec is much better, if you can grab one). joesdatacenter.com (same location as Wholesale Internet) also occasionally has specials (or if you don't want to wait, it has an AMD Opteron 170 @ $16/mo).
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