[1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool

[PatMan]

I do feel however that any gpu miners days are seriously numbered. And the quickly rising difficulty is going to bury them and necessitate changes to p2pool to accommodate the longer time needed to do much larger difficulty, longer work times. it will pretty much make gpu mining bitcoin unworkable except for the complete die hards, the stupid or botnets within a few months.

Actually... people have been saying that for 6 months now.  ASICs are still very hard to come by (and there's no way I'm spending $10k on an avalon).  At $150/BTC, and electricity at $.05, I'm still very profitable with GPUs.  Not reaping it in hand over fist like the lucky folks who got batch 1/2 avalons, but still very profitable.  Probably more so than it's ever been, even back pre-halving days.  The rising value of BTC is what people seem to forget.  Yes difficulty is 2x what it was a few months ago, but so is the value of BTC.

As for forking.. I'm not using p2pool as long as there's < 1TH in it.  The variance is simply too much for me.  If the ASIC fork is unusable by GPUs, then I simply will never use p2pool again.  It's unfortunate, but that's how it is.

M

Agreed. Also, if I DID have an Avalon I would point it at a more compatible pool that would get the most out of it, obviously. Forking p2pool is not a good idea at all, what would happen if Avalon chips decide to pack in after 6 months? Far better for everyone if p2pool was compatible with ALL miners, as is the norm.

lenny, if you consider 3 blocks/payouts  per week the most you've earned than anywhere else you must have been doing something badly wrong before......

Unless I'm missing something, forking isn't necessarily a bad thing.  In fact, I'm pretty sure there are already other forks out there.  This is open source after all.  It shouldn't affect the "GPU" pool at all.

M

Sorry, my bad use of words - I meant splitting - as in one for gpu's and one for everyone else.

[ewibit]

Far better for everyone if p2pool was compatible with ALL miners, as is the norm.

+1

[mdude77]

I do feel however that any gpu miners days are seriously numbered. And the quickly rising difficulty is going to bury them and necessitate changes to p2pool to accommodate the longer time needed to do much larger difficulty, longer work times. it will pretty much make gpu mining bitcoin unworkable except for the complete die hards, the stupid or botnets within a few months.

Actually... people have been saying that for 6 months now.  ASICs are still very hard to come by (and there's no way I'm spending $10k on an avalon).  At $150/BTC, and electricity at $.05, I'm still very profitable with GPUs.  Not reaping it in hand over fist like the lucky folks who got batch 1/2 avalons, but still very profitable.  Probably more so than it's ever been, even back pre-halving days.  The rising value of BTC is what people seem to forget.  Yes difficulty is 2x what it was a few months ago, but so is the value of BTC.

As for forking.. I'm not using p2pool as long as there's < 1TH in it.  The variance is simply too much for me.  If the ASIC fork is unusable by GPUs, then I simply will never use p2pool again.  It's unfortunate, but that's how it is.

M

Agreed. Also, if I DID have an Avalon I would point it at a more compatible pool that would get the most out of it, obviously. Forking p2pool is not a good idea at all, what would happen if Avalon chips decide to pack in after 6 months? Far better for everyone if p2pool was compatible with ALL miners, as is the norm.

lenny, if you consider 3 blocks/payouts  per week the most you've earned than anywhere else you must have been doing something badly wrong before......

Unless I'm missing something, forking isn't necessarily a bad thing.  In fact, I'm pretty sure there are already other forks out there.  This is open source after all.  It shouldn't affect the "GPU" pool at all.

M

Sorry, my bad use of words - I meant splitting - as in one for gpu's and one for everyone else.

And that's different from a fork how?

M

[zvs]

I do feel however that any gpu miners days are seriously numbered. And the quickly rising difficulty is going to bury them and necessitate changes to p2pool to accommodate the longer time needed to do much larger difficulty, longer work times. it will pretty much make gpu mining bitcoin unworkable except for the complete die hards, the stupid or botnets within a few months.

Actually... people have been saying that for 6 months now.  ASICs are still very hard to come by (and there's no way I'm spending $10k on an avalon).  At $150/BTC, and electricity at $.05, I'm still very profitable with GPUs.  Not reaping it in hand over fist like the lucky folks who got batch 1/2 avalons, but still very profitable.  Probably more so than it's ever been, even back pre-halving days.  The rising value of BTC is what people seem to forget.  Yes difficulty is 2x what it was a few months ago, but so is the value of BTC.

As for forking.. I'm not using p2pool as long as there's < 1TH in it.  The variance is simply too much for me.  If the ASIC fork is unusable by GPUs, then I simply will never use p2pool again.  It's unfortunate, but that's how it is.

M

Agreed. Also, if I DID have an Avalon I would point it at a more compatible pool that would get the most out of it, obviously. Forking p2pool is not a good idea at all, what would happen if Avalon chips decide to pack in after 6 months? Far better for everyone if p2pool was compatible with ALL miners, as is the norm.

lenny, if you consider 3 blocks/payouts  per week the most you've earned than anywhere else you must have been doing something badly wrong before......

sure, it's still more than any pool that charges fees

the amount earned isn't the issue, the variance is

[mdude77]

I do feel however that any gpu miners days are seriously numbered. And the quickly rising difficulty is going to bury them and necessitate changes to p2pool to accommodate the longer time needed to do much larger difficulty, longer work times. it will pretty much make gpu mining bitcoin unworkable except for the complete die hards, the stupid or botnets within a few months.

Actually... people have been saying that for 6 months now.  ASICs are still very hard to come by (and there's no way I'm spending $10k on an avalon).  At $150/BTC, and electricity at $.05, I'm still very profitable with GPUs.  Not reaping it in hand over fist like the lucky folks who got batch 1/2 avalons, but still very profitable.  Probably more so than it's ever been, even back pre-halving days.  The rising value of BTC is what people seem to forget.  Yes difficulty is 2x what it was a few months ago, but so is the value of BTC.

As for forking.. I'm not using p2pool as long as there's < 1TH in it.  The variance is simply too much for me.  If the ASIC fork is unusable by GPUs, then I simply will never use p2pool again.  It's unfortunate, but that's how it is.

M

Agreed. Also, if I DID have an Avalon I would point it at a more compatible pool that would get the most out of it, obviously. Forking p2pool is not a good idea at all, what would happen if Avalon chips decide to pack in after 6 months? Far better for everyone if p2pool was compatible with ALL miners, as is the norm.

lenny, if you consider 3 blocks/payouts  per week the most you've earned than anywhere else you must have been doing something badly wrong before......

sure, it's still more than any pool that charges fees

the amount earned isn't the issue, the variance is

You can be 0% on bitminter.

M

[organofcorti]

sure, it's still more than any pool that charges fees

the amount earned isn't the issue, the variance is

You can be 0% on bitminter.

M

As long as you're happy using the pool and not contributing to the guy who runs it, cheapskate.

[zvs]

i was going to mention the added perk of being able to mine the illustrious 'ixcoins' on p2pool, but it looks like Vircurex has stopped trading ixcoins... even as they were at like a 6 month high..   jesus!   

[Neverest]

Anybody else has problems currently?
run_p2pool started ok (loading all shares etc), Scryptminer Gui says it's finding thousands of shares, but no payment in over 9 hours (normally one per hour or more).

Stale rate 19.8% New work found all the time, but no payment, 42kh/s??

[Richy_T]

It appears my current problems may have an answer here:

http://www.terracointalk.org/index.php/topic,3.msg275.html#msg275

Getting too late in the night to set up cgminer though. I'll have to play tomorrow.

Edit: Ah, who needs sleep? cgminer installed and graphs are doing something. Yaysome!

Edit2: OK, now to figure out how to get it running under cygwin. Gives "redirection is not allowed". Not a show-stopper but I like to be able to ssh in.

[Craftyman]

Can I use P2Pool to set up a PPC pool?

[stevegee58]

Anybody else has problems currently?
run_p2pool started ok (loading all shares etc), Scryptminer Gui says it's finding thousands of shares, but no payment in over 9 hours (normally one per hour or more).

Stale rate 19.8% New work found all the time, but no payment, 42kh/s??

I also haven't been paid in about 9 hours myself.  LTC blocks seem have been solved during the night but no payouts for me.

[Neverest]

Anybody else has problems currently?
run_p2pool started ok (loading all shares etc), Scryptminer Gui says it's finding thousands of shares, but no payment in over 9 hours (normally one per hour or more).

Stale rate 19.8% New work found all the time, but no payment, 42kh/s??

I also haven't been paid in about 9 hours myself.  LTC blocks seem have been solved during the night but no payouts for me.

17 hours now, at 42kh/s, but zero payout. All older payments have cleared, but nothing new. Waste of CPU and energy, I am out.

[stevegee58]

I left p2pool running and restarted my litecoind and and cgminer and got paid within an hour.  I think litecoind got messed up somehow.

[K1773R]

remember there was a hardfork, dunno what happend but with my old version i couldnt get the full blockchain and therefore of course not get any valid shares

[stevegee58]

I'm running a small GPU on p2pool (V 11.2) for mining LTC at around 145 kh/s with cgminer (V 2.11.4).  Everything seems to be working but I noticed that instead of the usual 3 shares/minute on BTC mining, I'm getting about 120 shares/minute with LTC.  Basically the shares are flying past.

Is there a way to increase the share difficulty my miner sees to slow this down?

[Aseras]

I'm running a small GPU on p2pool (V 11.2) for mining LTC at around 145 kh/s with cgminer (V 2.11.4).  Everything seems to be working but I noticed that instead of the usual 3 shares/minute on BTC mining, I'm getting about 120 shares/minute with LTC.  Basically the shares are flying past.

Is there a way to increase the share difficulty my miner sees to slow this down?

It's the same. You add /x000 to your username to increase share value. And add +x to increase difficulty value.

so you could use aseras/2000

Or

Aseras+4

Or aseras/2000+8

Many combinations. You try to make it so that you find a few shares per hour.

[lenny_]

I'm running a small GPU on p2pool (V 11.2) for mining LTC at around 145 kh/s with cgminer (V 2.11.4).  Everything seems to be working but I noticed that instead of the usual 3 shares/minute on BTC mining, I'm getting about 120 shares/minute with LTC.  Basically the shares are flying past.

Is there a way to increase the share difficulty my miner sees to slow this down?

It's the same. You add /x000 to your username to increase share value. And add +x to increase difficulty value.

so you could use aseras/2000

Or

Aseras+4

Or aseras/2000+8

Many combinations. You try to make it so that you find a few shares per hour.

Hold on, can you please explain?
username/2000 - that's "big shares" difficulty, which p2pool counts as our income, correct?
username+2000 - what's exactly that, then? Difficulty given to stratum-cgminer?

[zvs]

I'm running a small GPU on p2pool (V 11.2) for mining LTC at around 145 kh/s with cgminer (V 2.11.4).  Everything seems to be working but I noticed that instead of the usual 3 shares/minute on BTC mining, I'm getting about 120 shares/minute with LTC.  Basically the shares are flying past.

Is there a way to increase the share difficulty my miner sees to slow this down?

It's the same. You add /x000 to your username to increase share value. And add +x to increase difficulty value.

so you could use aseras/2000

Or

Aseras+4

Or aseras/2000+8

Many combinations. You try to make it so that you find a few shares per hour.

Hold on, can you please explain?
username/2000 - that's "big shares" difficulty, which p2pool counts as our income, correct?
username+2000 - what's exactly that, then? Difficulty given to stratum-cgminer?

username+5 would adds to 'base difficulty' or w/e, so instead of it being 1, 2, (or rarely 3), it'll be 6, 7, 8.  that's what it uses to calculate your hashrate on the graphs  (so essentially, yes, in response to your question)

username/xxxx (assuming it's higher than the p2pool assigned difficulty) is what difficulty shares you're trying to produce

[stevegee58]

I've tried modifying the difficulty using this "username/xxxx+yyyy" syntax but it doesn't seem to have any effect.

All I wanted to do was reduce my share solution rate by about 1/40 of what it is right now.  I'm looking at the "u: xxx/m" field in cgminer to determine this.  It's currently showing about 120/m.

[Richy_T]

OK, liking p2pool so far. I miss being able to track my hashrate easily though. Who wants an Android app?