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Author Topic: [1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool  (Read 2580650 times)
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May 01, 2013, 04:06:12 AM
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How is the hash rate on the network calculated? I have two miners which combined are averating 1.08Gh/s but p2pool.info only shows ~800MH/s ?

Edit: the 1.08GH/s is from the mean value on my nodes daily graph, not from the miners themselves.

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May 01, 2013, 04:29:59 AM
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i think it'd be much better if the block solver got all the TX fees instead of however the reward system works now (and, no, this isn't favoring someone that's 60ghash, because like the share difficulty, in the long run it would all even out).

Sounds like something someone with a 60ghash miner would say  Roll Eyes
Well, unless it has changed, the block solver already gets a bonus, so if the solver is going to get all the TX fees, then the other bonus shouldn't be done anymore.

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May 01, 2013, 08:56:03 AM
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i think it'd be much better if the block solver got all the TX fees instead of however the reward system works now (and, no, this isn't favoring someone that's 60ghash, because like the share difficulty, in the long run it would all even out).

Sounds like something someone with a 60ghash miner would say  Roll Eyes

 Roll Eyes   except I'm at 5-7ghash, not 60.

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Well, unless it has changed, the block solver already gets a bonus, so if the solver is going to get all the TX fees, then the other bonus shouldn't be done anymore.

Pick one or the other, not both.

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Yeah, so there's really no reason not to just change it over to the TX'es.     Add them to your blocks, take the risk of having a few more orphans, but get the whole TX amt if you solve it

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May 01, 2013, 09:54:02 AM
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Yeah, so there's really no reason not to just change it over to the TX'es.     Add them to your blocks, take the risk of having a few more orphans, but get the whole TX amt if you solve it
Except that is the exact opposite of the BTC design.
BTC design is to halve every 4 years coz transaction fees will 'supposedly' cover this over time.
So doing it that way means to head in the direction of giving all the reward to the block finder ... i.e. the opposite of being a pool.

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May 01, 2013, 11:23:00 AM
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Well, unless it has changed, the block solver already gets a bonus, so if the solver is going to get all the TX fees, then the other bonus shouldn't be done anymore.

Pick one or the other, not both.

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Yeah, so there's really no reason not to just change it over to the TX'es.     Add them to your blocks, take the risk of having a few more orphans, but get the whole TX amt if you solve it

All p2pool nodes help propagating the transactions contributed to the blocks you mine,
so I guess they all deserve a portion of fees Wink
And it should not be measured in hashrates...

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May 01, 2013, 12:27:30 PM
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The amount the share is worth is based on the target diff you were aiming for, not what diff the share ended up being.
Brilliant! Got it now thanks!
Uhm.
So what does the +d bit do at the end?
(No really! I'd like to be fairly sure I knew!)

+d changes the difficulty of work that is served to your miner. e.g., if you only want your miner to return 16 difficulty shares to your p2pool node, add +16 to user name. If you want your miner to tell the p2pool node to only send 5000 difficulty blocks back to the p2pool network, then add /5000 to user name. If you want both, append /5000+16 to the name.
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May 01, 2013, 01:48:31 PM
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Yeah, so there's really no reason not to just change it over to the TX'es.     Add them to your blocks, take the risk of having a few more orphans, but get the whole TX amt if you solve it
Except that is the exact opposite of the BTC design.
BTC design is to halve every 4 years coz transaction fees will 'supposedly' cover this over time.
So doing it that way means to head in the direction of giving all the reward to the block finder ... i.e. the opposite of being a pool.

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May 01, 2013, 03:25:23 PM
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so obtuse

i'm not helping propagate your share full of transactions, because it gets orphaned

if a large amount of transactions still cause shares to have an increased chance of being orphaned and assuming people still use p2pool when this may matter, in 4, 8, or 12 years, then i suspect it would be wise to then do a rethink. 

oh, assuming the issue w/ the increased orphans isnt solved by then, in a decade or whatever.

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May 01, 2013, 09:08:15 PM
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great, now just someone should make p2p exchange which is ddos safe and crypto is stabilized.
oh and it vould be a great idea to develop some wallet where you can have several crypto at once.
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May 01, 2013, 09:09:38 PM
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great, now just someone should make p2p exchange which is ddos safe and crypto is stabilized.
oh and it vould be a great idea to develop some wallet where you can have several crypto at once.
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May 01, 2013, 09:34:19 PM
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How difficult is it to modify the source to support new coins? I have no experience with Python, but I can program in C++.

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May 01, 2013, 09:40:55 PM
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great, now just someone should make p2p exchange which is ddos safe and crypto is stabilized.
oh and it vould be a great idea to develop some wallet where you can have several crypto at once.

That will be done as soon as someone figures out how to P2P cash transactions. After two years, there's still no answer to that one.

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May 02, 2013, 01:24:50 AM
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Someone already made a p2pool for bytecoins, look at their source

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May 02, 2013, 01:47:29 AM
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Does anyone have upnp working with the window (either python or exe)? I swear I saw it work once but it's definitely not working now. I'm trying to figure out whether to blame my router or dig into the code a bit. I don't see any errors in the log file.
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May 02, 2013, 12:02:56 PM
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great, now just someone should make p2p exchange which is ddos safe and crypto is stabilized.
oh and it vould be a great idea to develop some wallet where you can have several crypto at once.
P2P between cryptocurrencies makes it at least possible to hold funds hostage for some time and in the worst case allows for double spend scams.
Between crypto + fiat (e.g. USD + BTC) you need external trust, either to an exchange or at least a gateway/bank that keeps fiat debt for you.

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May 02, 2013, 12:05:12 PM
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Coin should add bytecoin

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May 02, 2013, 01:57:35 PM
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That will be done as soon as someone figures out how to P2P cash transactions. After two years, there's still no answer to that one.

I'm still thinking that gift cards might work with this. Needs a bit of thought though.


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May 03, 2013, 01:25:39 AM
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I need some clarification on how the P2pool Difficulty operates with Litecoin.  I have a P2pool node setup, with my miners connected to it.  I've been mining the node for 1 month now, yet the difficulty/shares/payout still is a bit fuzzy.  I've appended my username with the /+ flags, and tried several difficulty levels.  I've seen examples of usrname/2000+16 or usrname/2+2.  I've made the assumption that the /2000 would be for bitcoin mining and the /2 would be for litecoin.  Can someone explain the difference between the /2000 & /2 and how it relates to Litecoin mining.

I understand the the /2000 is for the pool/share difficulty, and the +2 is for the miner difficulty.

Example Stats:
P2pool version:  11.3
Cgminer version: 3.1.0
P2pool share difficulty: 1.15 (according to the web/static detail)
P2pool share difficulty: 0.232827 (according to P2pool program feed)
P2pool requested difficulty: Difficulty 3.000  (my username/3+3)
P2pool Shares: 8 total (1 orphaned, 0 dead) Efficiency: 113.7%
Cgminer difficulty: 15.3K (according to cgminer)
Cgminer difficulty: 31.6M (according to cgminer)

I've received "accepted" shares in cgminer of 250k/15,300 with a difficulty of username/2+2; however, p2pool does not recognize or "accept" a high share like that.  I've also let the miners run for upwards of 48-72 hours and have odd payouts.  What's the voodoo magic behind p2pool & the difficulty settings?
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May 03, 2013, 02:37:55 AM
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Public Bitcoin p2pool server: 208.78.103.246:9332

Testing with zero fees.  Need help load testing.

Precurser to p2pmining.com PPS p2pool server

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May 03, 2013, 05:50:51 AM
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Put maxconnections = 20 in bitcoin.conf. Bitcoind still has 36 connections(after restart). Why?
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