Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated: Guess who is Sicker?

[BADecker]

^^^ People who do simple things like eating still die. This means that even mega doses of V-C, V-D3, and Omegas probably won't keep them alive. But this topic is about who are sicker, the vaccinated or the unvaccinated. Dead vaccinated people are just as dead as dead unvaccinated people. V-C, V-D3, and Omegas will help both to remain healthier.

Modern vaccines destroy health more than not being vaccinated. V-C, V-D3, and Omegas maintain health better than vaccines.

[Astargath]

^^^ People who do simple things like eating still die. This means that even mega doses of V-C, V-D3, and Omegas probably won't keep them alive. But this topic is about who are sicker, the vaccinated or the unvaccinated. Dead vaccinated people are just as dead as dead unvaccinated people. V-C, V-D3, and Omegas will help both to remain healthier.

Modern vaccines destroy health more than not being vaccinated. V-C, V-D3, and Omegas maintain health better than vaccines.

There would be no people, sick or not, if it weren't for vaccines since we would have probably died from some terrible disease that happened in the past and was stopped through vaccines, never through hygiene, clearly hygiene doesn't stop viruses, otherwise we would have gotten rid of the common cold by now and yet you keep arguing that it was good hygiene what stopped the other MUCH deadlier diseases but somehow it doesn't stop the common cold, logic 404 not found.

[TECSHARE]

Scientific debate is SUPPOSED to never end, that is how we improve it. Also what we thought was healthy in the past often turns out to be horribly deadly, history has shown. The only way those horrible failures are discovered is with more discussion. The fact that people are being prevented from doing this should tell you some thing is not right.

Yes of course, the debate is the basis of science but there are several arguments that has been already debated with great success and is no-sense nowdays restart the discussion.
I'm agree with how said that is necessary to do preliminar analysis before to vaccinate because maybe there are people that can "react badly" but is quite ridicolous thinking that they are evil.

You don't just get to declare the debate over, that is the point, in real science the debate is never over, therefore people attempting to end that debate are not operating in line with science. I never said anything about anyone being evil, so not sure what you are even talking about.

[BADecker]

^^^ People who do simple things like eating still die. This means that even mega doses of V-C, V-D3, and Omegas probably won't keep them alive. But this topic is about who are sicker, the vaccinated or the unvaccinated. Dead vaccinated people are just as dead as dead unvaccinated people. V-C, V-D3, and Omegas will help both to remain healthier.

Modern vaccines destroy health more than not being vaccinated. V-C, V-D3, and Omegas maintain health better than vaccines.

There would be no people, sick or not, if it weren't for vaccines since we would have probably died from some terrible disease that happened in the past and was stopped through vaccines, never through hygiene, clearly hygiene doesn't stop viruses, otherwise we would have gotten rid of the common cold by now and yet you keep arguing that it was good hygiene what stopped the other MUCH deadlier diseases but somehow it doesn't stop the common cold, logic 404 not found.

You have a point. Maybe someone in the future invented a bunch of time machines, and sent robot doctors into the past to inject all the people that live throughout all time before Pasteur.

 

[Astargath]

^^^ People who do simple things like eating still die. This means that even mega doses of V-C, V-D3, and Omegas probably won't keep them alive. But this topic is about who are sicker, the vaccinated or the unvaccinated. Dead vaccinated people are just as dead as dead unvaccinated people. V-C, V-D3, and Omegas will help both to remain healthier.

Modern vaccines destroy health more than not being vaccinated. V-C, V-D3, and Omegas maintain health better than vaccines.

There would be no people, sick or not, if it weren't for vaccines since we would have probably died from some terrible disease that happened in the past and was stopped through vaccines, never through hygiene, clearly hygiene doesn't stop viruses, otherwise we would have gotten rid of the common cold by now and yet you keep arguing that it was good hygiene what stopped the other MUCH deadlier diseases but somehow it doesn't stop the common cold, logic 404 not found.

You have a point. Maybe someone in the future invented a bunch of time machines, and sent robot doctors into the past to inject all the people that live throughout all time before Pasteur.

 

I guess the best thing to do is ignore the argument since you really have no argument. You keep arguing that it was hygiene that stopped all the other terrible diseases and not vaccines and yet we have simple viruses that are not eradicated even though we have far better hygiene than before.

[BADecker]

^^^ Since there isn't any argument, perhaps you should stop trying to create one, especially if you are just going to ignore it anyway.

You keep saying that I argue something. I wasn't arguing. You just say that I was.

No vaccine, or combination of vaccines, ever eradicated any disease. Only immune systems or death do that. Until you realize this fact, you will remain in the class of people who tend to run their immune systems down with bad hygiene, and vaccines... except if you are out there to destroy the lives of other people. Then you might knowingly go against what you are saying, and use good hygiene, and stop vaccinating yourself.

[Astargath]

^^^ Since there isn't any argument, perhaps you should stop trying to create one, especially if you are just going to ignore it anyway.

You keep saying that I argue something. I wasn't arguing. You just say that I was.

No vaccine, or combination of vaccines, ever eradicated any disease. Only immune systems or death do that. Until you realize this fact, you will remain in the class of people who tend to run their immune systems down with bad hygiene, and vaccines... except if you are out there to destroy the lives of other people. Then you might knowingly go against what you are saying, and use good hygiene, and stop vaccinating yourself.

''Only immune systems'' The common cold came around 200 years ago and yet we haven't got rid of it even though our hygiene is much better, what happened to the immune systems? They didn't work this time? They worked for deadlier diseases but not for the common cold?

[tvbcof]

^^^ Since there isn't any argument, perhaps you should stop trying to create one, especially if you are just going to ignore it anyway.

You keep saying that I argue something. I wasn't arguing. You just say that I was.

No vaccine, or combination of vaccines, ever eradicated any disease. Only immune systems or death do that. Until you realize this fact, you will remain in the class of people who tend to run their immune systems down with bad hygiene, and vaccines... except if you are out there to destroy the lives of other people. Then you might knowingly go against what you are saying, and use good hygiene, and stop vaccinating yourself.

Before you know it the dude is going to be boo-hooing when he gets sick and want socialized health care to pay for the 18 prescriptions he has for his cascade of medical issues.  He's easily stupid enough to blame the anti-vaxxers for his many auto-immunity problems though so he's likely to use that as an extra excuse for socialized medicine...run the same big pharma corporations who run our current system.

[BADecker]

^^^ Since there isn't any argument, perhaps you should stop trying to create one, especially if you are just going to ignore it anyway.

You keep saying that I argue something. I wasn't arguing. You just say that I was.

No vaccine, or combination of vaccines, ever eradicated any disease. Only immune systems or death do that. Until you realize this fact, you will remain in the class of people who tend to run their immune systems down with bad hygiene, and vaccines... except if you are out there to destroy the lives of other people. Then you might knowingly go against what you are saying, and use good hygiene, and stop vaccinating yourself.

''Only immune systems'' The common cold came around 200 years ago and yet we haven't got rid of it even though our hygiene is much better, what happened to the immune systems? They didn't work this time? They worked for deadlier diseases but not for the common cold?

Wow! You gotta be one of the oldest jokers around if you've had the cold that long.

 

[Astargath]

^^^ Since there isn't any argument, perhaps you should stop trying to create one, especially if you are just going to ignore it anyway.

You keep saying that I argue something. I wasn't arguing. You just say that I was.

No vaccine, or combination of vaccines, ever eradicated any disease. Only immune systems or death do that. Until you realize this fact, you will remain in the class of people who tend to run their immune systems down with bad hygiene, and vaccines... except if you are out there to destroy the lives of other people. Then you might knowingly go against what you are saying, and use good hygiene, and stop vaccinating yourself.

''Only immune systems'' The common cold came around 200 years ago and yet we haven't got rid of it even though our hygiene is much better, what happened to the immune systems? They didn't work this time? They worked for deadlier diseases but not for the common cold?

Wow! You gotta be one of the oldest jokers around if you've had the cold that long.

 

I haven't but you argued that it's the immune system that stopped the other diseases that do not exist at all now, however the cold still exists and people get it 2-3 times per year, how come our immune systems didnt stop this one but were able to stop all the others that you claim vaccines didn't?

[Vaskiy]

Unvaccinated is more prone for diseases and infections. For instance after the birth of an infant it is mandatory to give vaccination up to certain age to prevent the child from polio attacks, hepatitis, measles kind of diseases. Once vaccination is done at proper intervals its safe and secure for the development of growing children.

[BADecker]

^^^ Since there isn't any argument, perhaps you should stop trying to create one, especially if you are just going to ignore it anyway.

You keep saying that I argue something. I wasn't arguing. You just say that I was.

No vaccine, or combination of vaccines, ever eradicated any disease. Only immune systems or death do that. Until you realize this fact, you will remain in the class of people who tend to run their immune systems down with bad hygiene, and vaccines... except if you are out there to destroy the lives of other people. Then you might knowingly go against what you are saying, and use good hygiene, and stop vaccinating yourself.

''Only immune systems'' The common cold came around 200 years ago and yet we haven't got rid of it even though our hygiene is much better, what happened to the immune systems? They didn't work this time? They worked for deadlier diseases but not for the common cold?

Wow! You gotta be one of the oldest jokers around if you've had the cold that long.

 

I haven't but you argued that it's the immune system that stopped the other diseases that do not exist at all now, however the cold still exists and people get it 2-3 times per year, how come our immune systems didnt stop this one but were able to stop all the others that you claim vaccines didn't?

Thanks for asking a question that the medical has been asking for a long time, now.

So far, what the medical has come up with that is accurate, is that the immune system is activated whenever it recognizes a potential threat to the body. This happens when a person is bitten by an animal, stung by a bee, punctured by a thorn, and all kinds of other things. The thing that the medical hasn't figure out completely is why some threats don't activate the immune system strongly enough to cause it to disable the threat.

What is the medical's response to this? Inject vaccines that cause such a tremendous reaction in the immune system that it literally freaks out. When it freaks out, it panics, and wastes its strength on everything. Some of what it does is to harm the body, itself. This is why vaccinated people are sicker than non-vaccinated ones.

[tvbcof]

NBC News Caught Faking Photo Of Baby Infected With Measles:

  https://cloverchronicle.com/2019/04/22/nbc-news-caught-faking-photo-of-baby-infected-with-measles/

LOL!

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Truthers please note:  We have seen and will continue to see 'faked fakes'.  That is, stories widely circulated which are so 'juicy' and 'obvious' that they are picked up by our side.  Then 'new information' will come out which discredit it.  This is the kind of 'sophisticated' public relations operations which are described in establishment think-tanks and what-not.

This, or any other story, could be in this 'psychological operation' categories.  Might not also.  Don't just jump on things without being aware of these kinds of operations.  Vaccination is so important that you can be certain that all the stops will be pulled out to get the herd heading in the right direction.  The U.S. 2nd amendment is another such issue.

[Naida_BR]

Vaccines have benefited the world from various diseases but we should not forget that vaccines contain bad organizations that cause flus and etc.
It is not fully healthy because an unknown element is introduced to your body, and every people' body has different reaction to that.
In general, vaccines can protect the world from epidemia but we should not overdo it with unnecessary injections.

[BADecker]

^^^ The benefits of vaccines are producing other results that are way more deadly than the viruses that the vaccines were supposed to be protecting against.

Where are the safety tests for vaccines? Where is it advertised that there are few if any safety tests? Why isn't anyone doing long-term safety tests - at least not until these last couple of years - where we are finding out that vaccines are not safe.

[tvbcof]

^^^ The benefits of vaccines are producing other results that are way more deadly than the viruses that the vaccines were supposed to be protecting against.

Where are the safety tests for vaccines? Where is it advertised that there are few if any safety tests? Why isn't anyone doing long-term safety tests - at least not until these last couple of years - where we are finding out that vaccines are not safe.

As we know, with legal immunity from damages cause by vaccines (specifically) the 'danger' to the vaccine makers from releasing dangerous products is greatly reduced.  So, therefore, is the need for 'safety tests.'  The most likely reason we don't see them is because generally speaking they don't exist.

[BADecker]

^^^ Those were rhetorical questions. Of course, if someone can produce the actual tests, with folks who are willing to take the stand and swear that they did the tests, and that the results were as recorded, I truly would like to see it.

[tvbcof]

^^^ Those were rhetorical questions. Of course, if someone can produce the actual tests, with folks who are willing to take the stand and swear that they did the tests, and that the results were as recorded, I truly would like to see it.

What, you don't trust the CDC?  I mean people step straight out of the 'public service' job of heading up the CDC and straight into a $M/yr job at Merck Pharmaceuticals to head up their vaccine division (see, Julie Gerberding.)  Isn't that solid proof that the Merck is doing great safety studies and the CDC is keeping them honest?  I mean who would take a multi-million dollar job with Merck if they were not doing a great job?

[BADecker]

And you can bet that there are loads more who are not affected this severely, and never report their problems.


HPV Vaccine leaves ANOTHER teenager chained to a wheelchair for LIFE

The human papillomavirus, known as HPV, is an incredibly common sexually transmitted infection. Though just the name HPV strikes fear into the hearts of many, for the most part, it is totally harmless. The CDC’s website notes that, “HPV is so common that nearly all sexually active people get it at some point in their lives.” While the agency warns that HPV can cause genital warts and cervical cancer, and that the vaccine is therefore vitally important, the figures just don’t back that statement up. The CDC’s own statistics show that 79 million Americans are currently infected with HPV, yet only about 100 of these will have genital warts at any given time, and only about 11,000 women are diagnosed with cervical cancer in any given year.

While it is not my intention to diminish the suffering of those 11,000 women in any way, it does seem startling that the CDC is recommending that everybody be vaccinated against a disease that only affects around 0.014 percent of all those infected with the virus – especially when hordes of distraught families have spoken out about the devastating effect this vaccine has had on their children.

One of the affected families is the Beattie family from Wigton, England. Zara Beattie, 13, was once a sporty young girl who loved football, netball and cycling. She now virtually never leaves her bed, and is wheelchair-bound when she does leave home, after suffering a reaction to the Gardasil HPV vaccine back in 2015.

Zara’s mom, Anthea, describes her daughter as an “80-year-old in a teenager’s body.” Zara is unable to stand without feeling faint, has to be homeschooled because she’s simply too exhausted to go to school, and can barely cope with sitting up to have a meal. She also suffers from constant headaches, as well as muscle and joint pain.

Check the links in the article.

[TECSHARE]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/merck-created-hit-list-to-destroy-neutralize-or-discredit-dissenting-doctors/