[ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees

[hv_]

when pump?

teh flippening?

I'm sure - it will be at a Monday.

 

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[goldart]

when pump?

teh flippening?

I'm sure - it will be at a Monday.

 

BTC is 10 times more expensive than BCH and I think the price isn't that important for pumpers. Bitcoin Cash will rise when the whole market rise.

[hv_]

It's not really being used by anybody for anything

Are you shamelessly lying, or just willfully ignorant, nutildah?

[<<blah blah blah>> (paraphrased)]

I will just point out here that merely a single use of BCH for merely a single purpose makes your blanket statement perfectly and completely false.

I suppose you can consider speculation a use if you must. You got me.

But so long as this lying douchebag has a voice, your coin has a serious credibility issue:

https://www.ccn.com/satoshis-vision-craig-wright-to-launch-bch-node-to-restore-original-bitcoin-protocol/

If Wright cared about anything other than his own ego, he would simply step away from the limelight and go silent.

Actually,  BitCoin cash seeks to be p2p cash.  Each day more merchants accept it for payments for goods and services.  Not some hodl lambo beanie baby coin for hobby devs to play with.  


BitPy just added BitCoin cash to their platform for example.  Low fees and secure.

This here might be a good thing to get really CLEAN protocol code, long term stability and bold industrial style expectation management  - good for any decent integration on top of that protocol -> easy adoption for any solution provider / user.

https://www.ccn.com/satoshis-vision-craig-wright-to-launch-bch-node-to-restore-original-bitcoin-protocol/

And BTW - it keeps up to the nearly 10y proven concept of secure on-chain  TXs, and fully excludes any other toy games (SW, LN, ...) from such a proven protocol.

Also in terms of regulation ( see actual proceedings at SEC, Fincen ,... ) it is good since Bitcoin Cash will be only investment asset on the market, that is compliant with the only existing selling prospect - the Satoshi white paper. - I'm sure that not really many can think that through yet.

 

[jbreher]

It's not really being used by anybody for anything

Are you shamelessly lying, or just willfully ignorant, nutildah?

[<<blah blah blah>> (paraphrased)]

I will just point out here that merely a single use of BCH for merely a single purpose makes your blanket statement perfectly and completely false.

I suppose you can consider speculation a use if you must.

One among many.

(...not much of a save there...)

You got me.

No shit.

If Wright...

If Lukejr... If Back... If Vays...

Funny how you feel you need to trot out personalities - rather than discuss concrete aspects of the chains and the implementations built thereupon.

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[trankhiem16]

I am very confident

[bitcoinPsycho]

I am very confident

Good for you

[nutildah]

If Lukejr... If Back... If Vays...

Funny how you fell you need to trot out personalities - rather than discuss concrete aspects of the chains and the implementations built thereupon.

The difference is you have the two biggest douchebags in all of crypto doing everything they can to fud bitcoin and promote bcash, that's the difference.

Wright is a douchebag. He could never even admit outright that his entire "I am Satoshi" bit was an utter hoax. He's a sociopath who won't stop until the world addresses him as "God."

Ver is a douchebag. He uses his control of bitcoin.com to mislead people into buying bcash when they are trying to buy bitcoin. It took a lawsuit for him to stop his atrocious behavior.

Bitcoin doesn't need to resort to such tactics because it is the superior product.

But if you want to discuss "concrete aspects," let's discuss how the popularity of bcash is concretely waning while the popularity of bitcoin is concretely growing.



On January 1st, BTC had a 38% dominance of the total market cap while BCH had 7%.

Today, BTC has grown to a 52% dominance while BCH has slipped to 4.4%.

Now if BCH was seen as "better," "less speculation-based" or simply "more popular" than BTC, this percentage would be on the rise as it could be considered a relatively stable store of value. However, its % dominance has been on the decrease along with every other altcoin because BTC has proved it can scale to demand. The inherent utility over BTC that BCH proposes is no longer necessary because BTC has adapted and evolved to find ways to scale.

Really Roger should have come up with a more original name than "Bitcoin Cash" if he wanted it to succeed. It's confusing to new users and a blatant ripoff / coat-tail ride to veterans.

[hornetsnest]

The nail in BCH's coffin?

https://twitter.com/MarkFriedenbach/status/1030211193544134658

 #ForwardBlocks

[CityLife Corp.]

BTC price likely to drop 10 to 20 percent on August 1st when the chain splits. Make sure to have your private keys when this happens so you don't lose funds.

Totally Agree 

[sacombank]

BTC price likely to drop 10 to 20 percent on August 1st when the chain splits. Make sure to have your private keys when this happens so you don't lose funds.

Totally Agree 

I think btc price will grow up on next month, September 2017 ,bitcoin price  was 4000$ and now btc is 6000$ ,bch is keep going up.

[b0yptn]

This token will be very valuable. I see the potential of it. If I could, I would need more time to invest in it.

[sirsplashalot]

If Lukejr... If Back... If Vays...

Funny how you fell you need to trot out personalities - rather than discuss concrete aspects of the chains and the implementations built thereupon.

The difference is you have the two biggest douchebags in all of crypto doing everything they can to fud bitcoin and promote bcash, that's the difference.

Wright is a douchebag. He could never even admit outright that his entire "I am Satoshi" bit was an utter hoax. He's a sociopath who won't stop until the world addresses him as "God."

Ver is a douchebag. He uses his control of bitcoin.com to mislead people into buying bcash when they are trying to buy bitcoin. It took a lawsuit for him to stop his atrocious behavior.

Bitcoin doesn't need to resort to such tactics because it is the superior product.

But if you want to discuss "concrete aspects," let's discuss how the popularity of bcash is concretely waning while the popularity of bitcoin is concretely growing.



On January 1st, BTC had a 38% dominance of the total market cap while BCH had 7%.

Today, BTC has grown to a 52% dominance while BCH has slipped to 4.4%.

Now if BCH was seen as "better," "less speculation-based" or simply "more popular" than BTC, this percentage would be on the rise as it could be considered a relatively stable store of value. However, its % dominance has been on the decrease along with every other altcoin because BTC has proved it can scale to demand. The inherent utility over BTC that BCH proposes is no longer necessary because BTC has adapted and evolved to find ways to scale.

Really Roger should have come up with a more original name than "Bitcoin Cash" if he wanted it to succeed. It's confusing to new users and a blatant ripoff / coat-tail ride to veterans.

Speaking of douchebags
....

How much money have you donated/funded to the Crypto space?

[hv_]

The nail in BCH's coffin?

https://twitter.com/MarkFriedenbach/status/1030211193544134658

 #ForwardBlocks

Not that I m bored these days, but I 'll happily watch that - would it come in with an UASF ? Since a miner vote might be totally irrelevant for that altcoin? 

What white paper will it follow btw?

[jbreher]

If Lukejr... If Back... If Vays...

Funny how you fell you need to trot out personalities - rather than discuss concrete aspects of the chains and the implementations built thereupon.

The difference is you have the two biggest douchebags in all of crypto ...

Small minds discuss people.

But if you want to discuss "concrete aspects," let's discuss how the popularity of bcash is concretely waning while the popularity of bitcoin is concretely growing.

https://i.imgur.com/3b9AR3E.png

On January 1st, BTC had a 38% dominance of the total market cap while BCH had 7%.

Today, BTC has grown to a 52% dominance while BCH has slipped to 4.4%.

Indeed it is. I find this disappointing. However, popularity is not a proper basis for determination of superiority. And popularity metrics can turn on a dime. I am confident this trend will turn. If your only concrete aspect you wish to discuss is popularity, I guess I'm done with this branch of this conversation.

BTC has proved it can scale to demand.

It most certainly has not proven so. In the last test of BTC's scaling properties -- 4q17-Jan18 -- BTC failed miserably.

[jbreher]

The nail in BCH's coffin?

https://twitter.com/MarkFriedenbach/status/1030211193544134658

"I will be giving a talk at #ScalingBitcoin on how a block size increase up to 3600x the present size and a change of proof-of-work can be achieved with a fully backwards compatible soft-fork—old clients see all transactions and valid SHA256 block headers."

Sounds interesting, but I don't see how this translates as a threat to BCH.

Core has already shown an incredible irrational resistance to scaling on-chain. The ugly hack of adopting SegWit as a so-called 'soft fork' has proven to have been the mechanism by which new security vulnerabilities have been introduced to BTC - will this 'soft fork' be any different? Lastly, experience with other chains has already conclusively demonstrated the folly of jettisoning $Billions of USD worth of dedicated security appliances.

While the capacity increase is attractive, this looks to be facing at least a trifecta of real implementation problems.

I must admit that as far as technical details, I am quivering with antici...
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[hv_]

Colored Coins incoming

https://twitter.com/JoelDalais/status/1031507140773666816

[hornetsnest]

Sounds interesting, but I don't see how this translates as a threat to BCH.

4MB * 3600 = 14.4GB



Core has already shown an incredible irrational resistance to scaling on-chain.

Conspiracy theorists were insisting it was blockstream being behind the stopping of scaling bitcoin onchain yet here we have someone well associated with blockstream proposing this.

[Vojdel]

Hi, in your document is very useful information about your site. I'm interested in what languages you can translate it and how soon?

[narking]

Sounds interesting, but I don't see how this translates as a threat to BCH.

4MB * 3600 = 14.4GB



Core has already shown an incredible irrational resistance to scaling on-chain.

Conspiracy theorists were insisting it was blockstream being behind the stopping of scaling bitcoin onchain yet here we have someone well associated with blockstream proposing this.

I think that in any project there are those who always negatively concern him. So those who will support it regardless of any news. The fact that this team is one of the best both financially and in terms of who is behind it is generally without any questions. On account of what the future of the project?
Everything depends in many ways on the market and on how much it will be possible to increase the bandwidth of the network itself.

[jbreher]

Sounds interesting, but I don't see how this translates as a threat to BCH.

4MB * 3600 = 14.4GB

Core has already shown an incredible irrational resistance to scaling on-chain.

Conspiracy theorists were insisting it was blockstream being behind the stopping of scaling bitcoin onchain yet here we have someone well associated with blockstream proposing this.

Your quoting is broken.

No proposal as of yet. So far, all that we have is a tweet announcing the topic of a presentation to be given at an upcoming conference.

Demonstrably, Blockstream employees and contractors indeed argued vociferously against a simple block size increase leading up to the grand schism. Are you attempting to deny this reality?

If indeed Blockstream intends to create 14.4GB blocks, how ever will that run on a Raspberry Pi? What will it do to non-mining validator centralization? (not that that is an actual negative to the Bitcoin system, but Coreans have been insisting that it is).

More interesting yet is what they may plan on doing with that block size. As it stands today, due to the Core client's crappy multithreading design, the client bogs down at about 100 tx/s on today's commodity hardware. Maybe they'll finally get around to fixing that.