[ANN][ICO] ⚡ Electroneum ⚡ Token Sale Sept 14th Mobile Mining Crypto Coin

[stfN2128]

to those who are mad at the miners, think of it this way, a mining rig usually cost around $3000 per rig, miners invested in these machine to mine coins so why hate them? hate them because you can't mine like they can? then go on buy yourself a mining rig, hate them because you didn't get to mine the moment the blockchain goes live? then its your fault.

If you invested in this ICO thinking "oh I will be a millionaire the moment the blockchain goes live" then you're dreaming sir. Investing is like gambling, you need to play your hands properly and prepare to lose what you invested.

finally reads this, it's not how much you can win, but what you can lose.

They should not have put it on exchange until coins were released to everyone period.  Totally unfair to those who really believed in the concept and invested a lot of money.  Has nothing to do with miners and everything to do with the company that chose to handle it in such a fashion. I mine as well although I didn't mine ETN since I bought a shit ton of it.  I never would have guessed in a million years this would happen.  I'm in it for the long run.  That being said I would have liked to have had the option to sell a small portion if I wanted to.  Having the investors take a back seat was a really bad decision on the developers part. I am sure most investors that put 40 MILLION DOLLARS into their pockets feel a little or a lot betrayed.  Me personally I can afford to lose every penny I put in. Doesn't mean it isn't totally unfair and pisses me off.

Yeah totally unfail ICO. Absurd things happened. Black page in Crypto history. And mobile mining still not available (never be probably).

The concept of mobile mining is pure stupidity. Who would want your mobile device exposed to prolonged heat. It will die, or shorten your battery life.

another one who has still no idea...GOD DAMN GUYS READ THE PAPER, ITS NO REAL MINING

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[Altex.ws]

to those who are mad at the miners, think of it this way, a mining rig usually cost around $3000 per rig, miners invested in these machine to mine coins so why hate them? hate them because you can't mine like they can? then go on buy yourself a mining rig, hate them because you didn't get to mine the moment the blockchain goes live? then its your fault.

If you invested in this ICO thinking "oh I will be a millionaire the moment the blockchain goes live" then you're dreaming sir. Investing is like gambling, you need to play your hands properly and prepare to lose what you invested.

finally reads this, it's not how much you can win, but what you can lose.

They should not have put it on exchange until coins were released to everyone period.  Totally unfair to those who really believed in the concept and invested a lot of money.  Has nothing to do with miners and everything to do with the company that chose to handle it in such a fashion. I mine as well although I didn't mine ETN since I bought a shit ton of it.  I never would have guessed in a million years this would happen.  I'm in it for the long run.  That being said I would have liked to have had the option to sell a small portion if I wanted to.  Having the investors take a back seat was a really bad decision on the developers part. I am sure most investors that put 40 MILLION DOLLARS into their pockets feel a little or a lot betrayed.  Me personally I can afford to lose every penny I put in. Doesn't mean it isn't totally unfair and pisses me off.

Yeah totally unfail ICO. Absurd things happened. Black page in Crypto history. And mobile mining still not available (never be probably).

The concept of mobile mining is pure stupidity. Who would want your mobile device exposed to prolonged heat. It will die, or shorten your battery life.

After all this time you still not being able to fish the easiest details out of this. I laugh.  

You can see WHO has actually read this thread and also the whitepaper and who is a lazy ass and just assumed they know what the fuck they are talking about , time to start hitting the ignore button me is thinking!!

[fracas]

to those who are mad at the miners, think of it this way, a mining rig usually cost around $3000 per rig, miners invested in these machine to mine coins so why hate them? hate them because you can't mine like they can? then go on buy yourself a mining rig, hate them because you didn't get to mine the moment the blockchain goes live? then its your fault.

If you invested in this ICO thinking "oh I will be a millionaire the moment the blockchain goes live" then you're dreaming sir. Investing is like gambling, you need to play your hands properly and prepare to lose what you invested.

finally reads this, it's not how much you can win, but what you can lose.

They should not have put it on exchange until coins were released to everyone period.  Totally unfair to those who really believed in the concept and invested a lot of money.  Has nothing to do with miners and everything to do with the company that chose to handle it in such a fashion. I mine as well although I didn't mine ETN since I bought a shit ton of it.  I never would have guessed in a million years this would happen.  I'm in it for the long run.  That being said I would have liked to have had the option to sell a small portion if I wanted to.  Having the investors take a back seat was a really bad decision on the developers part. I am sure most investors that put 40 MILLION DOLLARS into their pockets feel a little or a lot betrayed.  Me personally I can afford to lose every penny I put in. Doesn't mean it isn't totally unfair and pisses me off.

Yeah totally unfail ICO. Absurd things happened. Black page in Crypto history. And mobile mining still not available (never be probably).

The concept of mobile mining is pure stupidity. Who would want your mobile device exposed to prolonged heat. It will die, or shorten your battery life.

another one who has still no idea...GOD DAMN GUYS READ THE PAPER, ITS NO REAL MINING

FACE THE REALITY MAN: MOBILE MINING IS NOT EXISTENT, real or not. They scammed us all.

[doremi]

they are double up their premined coins,but......ＤＯ　ＹＯＵ　ＧＵＹＳ　ＴＨＡＴ　ＩＮＶＥＳＴＩＮＧ　ＧＥＴ　ＤＯＵＢＬＥ　ＡＳ　ＷＥＬＬ？....that is a question lol
Cheers!

DAMN ETN TEAM, see it for yourself then tell me what can you say.  

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What does this mean ^^   Looks like 1.26 billion ETN on three stealth accounts ?? I hope I am reading that wrong

10.26 billion premined!!!!
this is far more than what they said is 6 billion!
cheers!

That was before when they expected around 10k users. Not over 300k. There is not enough coins for the mining app pool. Those coins will be necessary! So many noobs and FUD in here lol. Leaving until you all find something else to move on to. Wow.

Good luck with the project devs, I will be supporting and holding my coins for the future. Hope all the teething problems are sorted out soon.  

This is correct.

Its 12.6 billion coins

4.4 Billion to investors

That leaves 8.2 Billion for mobile miners, which is perfectly fine.

Wow, you guys just dont stop, lol. This was the plan all along. How did you expect the mobile miners to get coins??

show me the new announcement from dev-team then idoit!!!
this alone is enought for a very big red flag!!

I am the Community Manager for Electroneum. There is no announcement necessary. This was what they said would happen all along.


If you are confused, I will help you, but my guess is you are just trying to spread confusion, as you have been doing for months on this thread.

You can raise your Red Flag, but other than a few other trolls, I dont think anyone will fall for your FUD

people who are investing on this ico were invest under the terms of 6 billion coins will be premined,dev team don't have the right to change the original terms bc it will invade the right of the investers!i forseen this coin will be flag as a very very big red flag and will be deny to be listed on many well known exchange,the most worse case scenario would be  public law suit and these ico will treating as a scam project by the regulation agents!!

and you contraband as the ETN manager you will also a criminal due to the role as a colaborator with this scam...cheers!

btw..where is your lovely dev-team who is/are qualify to speak here and backed you up? NONE!!

bump!

[stfN2128]

to those who are mad at the miners, think of it this way, a mining rig usually cost around $3000 per rig, miners invested in these machine to mine coins so why hate them? hate them because you can't mine like they can? then go on buy yourself a mining rig, hate them because you didn't get to mine the moment the blockchain goes live? then its your fault.

If you invested in this ICO thinking "oh I will be a millionaire the moment the blockchain goes live" then you're dreaming sir. Investing is like gambling, you need to play your hands properly and prepare to lose what you invested.

finally reads this, it's not how much you can win, but what you can lose.

They should not have put it on exchange until coins were released to everyone period.  Totally unfair to those who really believed in the concept and invested a lot of money.  Has nothing to do with miners and everything to do with the company that chose to handle it in such a fashion. I mine as well although I didn't mine ETN since I bought a shit ton of it.  I never would have guessed in a million years this would happen.  I'm in it for the long run.  That being said I would have liked to have had the option to sell a small portion if I wanted to.  Having the investors take a back seat was a really bad decision on the developers part. I am sure most investors that put 40 MILLION DOLLARS into their pockets feel a little or a lot betrayed.  Me personally I can afford to lose every penny I put in. Doesn't mean it isn't totally unfair and pisses me off.

Yeah totally unfail ICO. Absurd things happened. Black page in Crypto history. And mobile mining still not available (never be probably).

The concept of mobile mining is pure stupidity. Who would want your mobile device exposed to prolonged heat. It will die, or shorten your battery life.

another one who has still no idea...GOD DAMN GUYS READ THE PAPER, ITS NO REAL MINING

FACE THE REALITY MAN: MOBILE MINING IS NOT EXISTENT, real or not. They scammed us all.

as already said, i think they have other problems at the moment... if you think they scammed us, go out of this thread and cry alone

[fracas]

to those who are mad at the miners, think of it this way, a mining rig usually cost around $3000 per rig, miners invested in these machine to mine coins so why hate them? hate them because you can't mine like they can? then go on buy yourself a mining rig, hate them because you didn't get to mine the moment the blockchain goes live? then its your fault.

If you invested in this ICO thinking "oh I will be a millionaire the moment the blockchain goes live" then you're dreaming sir. Investing is like gambling, you need to play your hands properly and prepare to lose what you invested.

finally reads this, it's not how much you can win, but what you can lose.

They should not have put it on exchange until coins were released to everyone period.  Totally unfair to those who really believed in the concept and invested a lot of money.  Has nothing to do with miners and everything to do with the company that chose to handle it in such a fashion. I mine as well although I didn't mine ETN since I bought a shit ton of it.  I never would have guessed in a million years this would happen.  I'm in it for the long run.  That being said I would have liked to have had the option to sell a small portion if I wanted to.  Having the investors take a back seat was a really bad decision on the developers part. I am sure most investors that put 40 MILLION DOLLARS into their pockets feel a little or a lot betrayed.  Me personally I can afford to lose every penny I put in. Doesn't mean it isn't totally unfair and pisses me off.

Yeah totally unfail ICO. Absurd things happened. Black page in Crypto history. And mobile mining still not available (never be probably).

The concept of mobile mining is pure stupidity. Who would want your mobile device exposed to prolonged heat. It will die, or shorten your battery life.

another one who has still no idea...GOD DAMN GUYS READ THE PAPER, ITS NO REAL MINING

FACE THE REALITY MAN: MOBILE MINING IS NOT EXISTENT, real or not. They scammed us all.

as already said, i think they have other problems at the moment... if you think they scammed us, go out of this thread and cry alone

As already said. They are the problem.

[Darkoth89]

I found something VERY interesting today. I'll show you two pictures, and the implication is pretty obvious, especially with certain rumors swirling around regarding Amazon and cryptocurrency acceptance

It's fake. This is what the real ones look like:

https://www.whois.com/whois/amazoncryptocurrency.com

REGISTRANT CONTACT
Name:Hostmaster, Amazon Legal Dept.
Organization:Amazon Technologies, Inc.
Street:P.O. Box 8102
City:Reno
State:NV
Postal Code:89507
Country:US
Phone:+1.2062664064
Fax:+1.2062667010
Email:email@amazon.com


Fake one has:

DOMAIN INFORMATION
Domain:amazonelectroneum.com
Registrar:GoDaddy.com, LLC
Registration Date:2017-11-02
Expiration Date:2019-11-02
Updated Date:2017-11-02
Status:clientDeleteProhibited
clientRenewProhibited
clientTransferProhibited
clientUpdateProhibited
Name Servers:ns05.domaincontrol.com
ns06.domaincontrol.com

REGISTRANT CONTACT
Name:David Cohen
Organization:David R. Cohen Co. LPA

[BTC-Graphicdesigns]

to those who are mad at the miners, think of it this way, a mining rig usually cost around $3000 per rig, miners invested in these machine to mine coins so why hate them? hate them because you can't mine like they can? then go on buy yourself a mining rig, hate them because you didn't get to mine the moment the blockchain goes live? then its your fault.

If you invested in this ICO thinking "oh I will be a millionaire the moment the blockchain goes live" then you're dreaming sir. Investing is like gambling, you need to play your hands properly and prepare to lose what you invested.

finally reads this, it's not how much you can win, but what you can lose.

They should not have put it on exchange until coins were released to everyone period.  Totally unfair to those who really believed in the concept and invested a lot of money.  Has nothing to do with miners and everything to do with the company that chose to handle it in such a fashion. I mine as well although I didn't mine ETN since I bought a shit ton of it.  I never would have guessed in a million years this would happen.  I'm in it for the long run.  That being said I would have liked to have had the option to sell a small portion if I wanted to.  Having the investors take a back seat was a really bad decision on the developers part. I am sure most investors that put 40 MILLION DOLLARS into their pockets feel a little or a lot betrayed.  Me personally I can afford to lose every penny I put in. Doesn't mean it isn't totally unfair and pisses me off.

Yeah totally unfail ICO. Absurd things happened. Black page in Crypto history. And mobile mining still not available (never be probably).

The concept of mobile mining is pure stupidity. Who would want your mobile device exposed to prolonged heat. It will die, or shorten your battery life.

another one who has still no idea...GOD DAMN GUYS READ THE PAPER, ITS NO REAL MINING

FACE THE REALITY MAN: MOBILE MINING IS NOT EXISTENT, real or not. They scammed us all.

It is time for you to shut the fuck you, you fucking butthurt idiot!

[SirBurton]

I found something VERY interesting today. I'll show you two pictures, and the implication is pretty obvious, especially with certain rumors swirling around regarding Amazon and cryptocurrency acceptance

https://s1.postimg.org/1ktuoiyrrz/Capture.jpg

https://s1.postimg.org/5ppg0mz5lb/Capture1.jpg

Dear God!!!

The impact to the Crupto market would be CATACLYSMIC!!! I cannot even imagine it .

Funny thing is that this scenario is more plausible than fictional.


Ps:These two photos almost gave me a boner !!!!!! Hahahahahahahahahha

[Altex.ws]

to those who are mad at the miners, think of it this way, a mining rig usually cost around $3000 per rig, miners invested in these machine to mine coins so why hate them? hate them because you can't mine like they can? then go on buy yourself a mining rig, hate them because you didn't get to mine the moment the blockchain goes live? then its your fault.

If you invested in this ICO thinking "oh I will be a millionaire the moment the blockchain goes live" then you're dreaming sir. Investing is like gambling, you need to play your hands properly and prepare to lose what you invested.

finally reads this, it's not how much you can win, but what you can lose.

They should not have put it on exchange until coins were released to everyone period.  Totally unfair to those who really believed in the concept and invested a lot of money.  Has nothing to do with miners and everything to do with the company that chose to handle it in such a fashion. I mine as well although I didn't mine ETN since I bought a shit ton of it.  I never would have guessed in a million years this would happen.  I'm in it for the long run.  That being said I would have liked to have had the option to sell a small portion if I wanted to.  Having the investors take a back seat was a really bad decision on the developers part. I am sure most investors that put 40 MILLION DOLLARS into their pockets feel a little or a lot betrayed.  Me personally I can afford to lose every penny I put in. Doesn't mean it isn't totally unfair and pisses me off.

Yeah totally unfail ICO. Absurd things happened. Black page in Crypto history. And mobile mining still not available (never be probably).

The concept of mobile mining is pure stupidity. Who would want your mobile device exposed to prolonged heat. It will die, or shorten your battery life.

another one who has still no idea...GOD DAMN GUYS READ THE PAPER, ITS NO REAL MINING

FACE THE REALITY MAN: MOBILE MINING IS NOT EXISTENT, real or not. They scammed us all.

as already said, i think they have other problems at the moment... if you think they scammed us, go out of this thread and cry alone

As already said. They are the problem.

Always been interested how much do they pay you professional fudders and shills, must be good money to act like a ASSHOLE!!

[H00TCH]

Hi guys! I was never able to win a local wallet. Spent a lot of time. daemon is synchronized. but the purse flies on Starting refresh. sinhroniziruete 1.2 unit. says balance 0. created wallet in the cli. on the pool sees the address and make payments. tried different pools. also all the balance is zero. created a new address. It is working properly. how to sync my first address? it is not enough coins. course and so subsided. I'm desperate. help

[ronnylov]

Hi!

I tried to deposit some mined ETN to Cryptopia from my CLI wallet but it does not work creating deposit address at Cryptopia. Is this a known problem or just me? I registered a new account this morning at Cryptopia so I have never used them before. Is Cryptopia the only exchange where ETN trading is enabled?

[khufuking]

Anybody having Problems Login into the app on android? I get the message: "email or Password not correct - try again"
And I know email and Password are correct.

There was a forced password reset , So all you have to do is to press forgot my password and change it .

HOW TO TRANSFER COINS FROM PAPER WALLET?

It seems the hthread is full of paid hype, but useful info is not available

To transfer your coins from paper wallet you need to use DOS wallet client , It is a little complicated, You will find steps on reddit I think . Also remember you have to transfer your ETN to paper wallet first , Which is impossible at the moment , So at the moment all you can do is transfer the mined coins only .

Hi!

I tried to deposit some mined ETN to Cryptopia from my CLI wallet but it does not work creating deposit address at Cryptopia. Is this a known problem or just me? I registered a new account this morning at Cryptopia so I have never used them before. Is Cryptopia the only exchange where ETN trading is enabled?

I created address without any problem yesterday and deposited to it without any problem . Maybe try again or try email cryptopia

[ilss1]

24 Hrs have past since the launch of the best ICO in the history of Crypto.

Things got out of hand in this thread , and i "blame" the community management team. Dont get me wrong guys.
I blame you because you were too soft with the trolls, too polite.
Too civil to 3-4 only people that made an orchestrated attempt to harm the coin and the community itself.

This is the one and only "fault" , which is not entirelly theirs if we want to be fair since everything regarding social media/community management is approved by the management and follow specific guidelines AFAIK.

But some things should have been avoided , in order to keep all things in order and prevent mass hysteria and FUD adoption.


I am watching the thread from the very beginning , the professional trolls were using their unethical ways preparing the ground and started delivering mild hits a couple of hours prior to the official blockchain going live.

For example , if you go back few dozen pages on 31/10/2017 minutes before midnight the Fracas-whatshisname troll was "Accusing" the company of being deliberately one hour late to the launch... ( which even if was true , SO WHAT?!? It was the blockchain going live NOT the listings!! )

The truth is that there was never a delay in the launch , but the troll was - or wanted us to believe that he was - in another TIME ZONE , FOR CHRIST SHAKE!! I live in eastern Europe and the Blockchain was live at UK time 00:00' 05'' , my time 02:00' 05" !! So someone must be really stupid , ignorant or just a paid troll  to even imply of such a thing.

Later on, the same troll , along most probably with his  fellow colleagues ( numerous new registered accounts and other known scammers ) started an orchestrated attack , using false accusations and FUD methods aiming primarilly to the new crypto users, those who just entered the market,  who dont know for example how mining is working in relation to the algorithm difficulty nor how a simple command prompt in a wallet application is written in order to make a transfer or start to mine etc.
They are not tech savvy, so they were proven to be a  rather easy "target" once all these issues arouse.

The official site was down a few times, due to the number of requests to the server. This happens all the time even in major news sites guys , even Facebook goes down sometimes! It is not somebodys fault , it just happens due to high traffic and limited bandwidth.
Pools too , same thing.

Every single thing that went wrong had nothing to do with the Electroneum team. Even the mobile wallet's delay was caused because it of the hacking for christs sake.
These things happen, we live in dangerous times and that is the risk we all take by being part of the Crypto market. You can win and lose everything in a fraction of a second.


Other users were just blaming the miners of grabbing their money, for crying out loud!!

But this is how mining works. This is how bitcoin became so huge. This is how the market was created and strengthened and this is the reason that cryptos are gaining mass attention and starting to gain ground in the last 2 years. Early miners were always taking the biggest piece of the pie , simply because this is how the thing works. It is innevitable. The algorithm's difficulty is low , so more blocks are solved. People are professional miners , having invested tens of thousands for this purpose , some are making a living out of it others dont , but this is the reality people. Whether we like it or not.

Consider also that anyone can rent hashing power in order to mine and gain 100x profits , without really owning a "MINING PC". So the accusation of ETN team favoring the miners is NOT VALID. I mined with my GAMING PC for hobby , and got X profit in the 1st 2 hours. But when i rented hash power i got 10x profit with less than 30$ !! So , again , if someone didnt make profit the 1st 6 hrs it is solely his fault.

Next time try to be more prepared! Do your homework and profits will come 100%. With OR without the ICO coins. Consider this a free of charge advise. We are all in the same page here.


This had nothing to do with the chance to have major early profiting from day 1 and was used by the trolls in order to manipulate you. My ICO coins for example are a fraction of the coins i mined with my PC and the renting hashing power. And i am gonna keep em because i believe in ETN!!!
So Simple.


Nobody can judge or accuse someone who is profiting from his work / strategy / ideas , it is unfair - unethical but mostly hypocritical since you would do the same.

But this is nowhere close to implying that miners are stealing others' money. Or that the Electroneum CEO and team was behind this.Behind what? The 20.000 miners that participated and still participate and will continue to participate in ETN mining??!?!? This is crazy guys.

They are just creating money.This is what mining is. Creating money.

I will not also forget the epic delirium of another user , whom i "met" again few posts above , who was acting like a lunatic simply because Richard Ells crisis management team decided to protect its user base with a 2FA ( 2 factor authentication ) for our OWN ASSETS DAMN SAFETY. I remember him saying that " I DONT WANT THE PROTECTION , I LOST THE PASS , I FORGOT MY 2ND PASSWORD , NO EMAIL WAS SENT AFTER 15 HOURS" , and i really guys wouldn't decide if this behavior was the outcome of a plain stupid individual and/or illiterate person or this was simply another staged performance from a paid troll/fudster. One could simply check the spam folder , and voila there is the email.
Checking the spam folder was also hinted in the users' profile in RED BOLD LETTERS , it is not nuclear physics!!!

During the last 24 hours i bared witness of almost every single logical and senseless behavioralistic pattern from the majority of users , fortunately most of whom have an above average mentality and have acquired in their lifetime the precious ability to judge whether one is full of sh*t or not.

But there were also a lot of panicked people , behaving irrational  , confused people who believed everything the trolls were implying  , thus creating more chaos and confusion.
That might again have been avoided if the trolls were blocked in the first place.

Unfortunately though , the trolls' attack continues and will most probably continue, harming all of us who are involved with our money to this really interesting , well marketed and solid ( unlike most alts and ICOs ) project.

I really hope that whoever reads my post now and in the days to come will understand what i am saying i tried not to be more technical and wrote in a rather plain and simple way , and i am reffering to the new users/owners/ICO investors , and that he/she wil be clever enough to identify the fake posts,fudsters,trolls and ignore and report them.

The crypto planet is not inhabited by angels, unfortunately trolls and fudsters are here too, being the equivalent to what the majority of us label as " common thieves". They just want to steal you.By inducing fear-doubt-uncertainty (FUD).You sell low , they buy low and sell high.

Thats all.

Invest to the coin, sell it later if you like and make some profit but always keep at least 80% to your portfolio because common sense dictates that this coin and the electroneum platform in general , will succeed in the not-so distant future.


This post ended up longer that i originally had in mind , sorry for that , but consider it something like a voice of reason among the ridiculousness crescendo we witnessed the past 24 hrs.

Good Luck to everybody on Friday , remember not to sell everything. It is for your own benefit.
We own the coin , we are responsible now for any loss or profit we make , remember that for a transaction to evolve one is selling and another is buying.


Before selling , take a break and think , " Why Is This Person Buying My Fear? ".

Dont sell out of fear.
Sell some when you are OK with it.

You said what, I'm feeling, * Fraud ", blah, blah, blah, this ends up generating uncertainty, I say this because I've come to doubt, but that's it, use your reason, never lose, I fucked it, something I lost about $ 10, if I valued and if I had used the reason, I would have profited.

[doremi]

24 Hrs have past since the launch of the best ICO in the history of Crypto.

Things got out of hand in this thread , and i "blame" the community management team. Dont get me wrong guys.
I blame you because you were too soft with the trolls, too polite.
Too civil to 3-4 only people that made an orchestrated attempt to harm the coin and the community itself.

This is the one and only "fault" , which is not entirelly theirs if we want to be fair since everything regarding social media/community management is approved by the management and follow specific guidelines AFAIK.

But some things should have been avoided , in order to keep all things in order and prevent mass hysteria and FUD adoption.


I am watching the thread from the very beginning , the professional trolls were using their unethical ways preparing the ground and started delivering mild hits a couple of hours prior to the official blockchain going live.

For example , if you go back few dozen pages on 31/10/2017 minutes before midnight the Fracas-whatshisname troll was "Accusing" the company of being deliberately one hour late to the launch... ( which even if was true , SO WHAT?!? It was the blockchain going live NOT the listings!! )

The truth is that there was never a delay in the launch , but the troll was - or wanted us to believe that he was - in another TIME ZONE , FOR CHRIST SHAKE!! I live in eastern Europe and the Blockchain was live at UK time 00:00' 05'' , my time 02:00' 05" !! So someone must be really stupid , ignorant or just a paid troll  to even imply of such a thing.

Later on, the same troll , along most probably with his  fellow colleagues ( numerous new registered accounts and other known scammers ) started an orchestrated attack , using false accusations and FUD methods aiming primarilly to the new crypto users, those who just entered the market,  who dont know for example how mining is working in relation to the algorithm difficulty nor how a simple command prompt in a wallet application is written in order to make a transfer or start to mine etc.
They are not tech savvy, so they were proven to be a  rather easy "target" once all these issues arouse.

The official site was down a few times, due to the number of requests to the server. This happens all the time even in major news sites guys , even Facebook goes down sometimes! It is not somebodys fault , it just happens due to high traffic and limited bandwidth.
Pools too , same thing.

Every single thing that went wrong had nothing to do with the Electroneum team. Even the mobile wallet's delay was caused because it of the hacking for christs sake.
These things happen, we live in dangerous times and that is the risk we all take by being part of the Crypto market. You can win and lose everything in a fraction of a second.


Other users were just blaming the miners of grabbing their money, for crying out loud!!

But this is how mining works. This is how bitcoin became so huge. This is how the market was created and strengthened and this is the reason that cryptos are gaining mass attention and starting to gain ground in the last 2 years. Early miners were always taking the biggest piece of the pie , simply because this is how the thing works. It is innevitable. The algorithm's difficulty is low , so more blocks are solved. People are professional miners , having invested tens of thousands for this purpose , some are making a living out of it others dont , but this is the reality people. Whether we like it or not.

Consider also that anyone can rent hashing power in order to mine and gain 100x profits , without really owning a "MINING PC". So the accusation of ETN team favoring the miners is NOT VALID. I mined with my GAMING PC for hobby , and got X profit in the 1st 2 hours. But when i rented hash power i got 10x profit with less than 30$ !! So , again , if someone didnt make profit the 1st 6 hrs it is solely his fault.

Next time try to be more prepared! Do your homework and profits will come 100%. With OR without the ICO coins. Consider this a free of charge advise. We are all in the same page here.


This had nothing to do with the chance to have major early profiting from day 1 and was used by the trolls in order to manipulate you. My ICO coins for example are a fraction of the coins i mined with my PC and the renting hashing power. And i am gonna keep em because i believe in ETN!!!
So Simple.


Nobody can judge or accuse someone who is profiting from his work / strategy / ideas , it is unfair - unethical but mostly hypocritical since you would do the same.

But this is nowhere close to implying that miners are stealing others' money. Or that the Electroneum CEO and team was behind this.Behind what? The 20.000 miners that participated and still participate and will continue to participate in ETN mining??!?!? This is crazy guys.

They are just creating money.This is what mining is. Creating money.

I will not also forget the epic delirium of another user , whom i "met" again few posts above , who was acting like a lunatic simply because Richard Ells crisis management team decided to protect its user base with a 2FA ( 2 factor authentication ) for our OWN ASSETS DAMN SAFETY. I remember him saying that " I DONT WANT THE PROTECTION , I LOST THE PASS , I FORGOT MY 2ND PASSWORD , NO EMAIL WAS SENT AFTER 15 HOURS" , and i really guys wouldn't decide if this behavior was the outcome of a plain stupid individual and/or illiterate person or this was simply another staged performance from a paid troll/fudster. One could simply check the spam folder , and voila there is the email.
Checking the spam folder was also hinted in the users' profile in RED BOLD LETTERS , it is not nuclear physics!!!

During the last 24 hours i bared witness of almost every single logical and senseless behavioralistic pattern from the majority of users , fortunately most of whom have an above average mentality and have acquired in their lifetime the precious ability to judge whether one is full of sh*t or not.

But there were also a lot of panicked people , behaving irrational  , confused people who believed everything the trolls were implying  , thus creating more chaos and confusion.
That might again have been avoided if the trolls were blocked in the first place.

Unfortunately though , the trolls' attack continues and will most probably continue, harming all of us who are involved with our money to this really interesting , well marketed and solid ( unlike most alts and ICOs ) project.

I really hope that whoever reads my post now and in the days to come will understand what i am saying i tried not to be more technical and wrote in a rather plain and simple way , and i am reffering to the new users/owners/ICO investors , and that he/she wil be clever enough to identify the fake posts,fudsters,trolls and ignore and report them.

The crypto planet is not inhabited by angels, unfortunately trolls and fudsters are here too, being the equivalent to what the majority of us label as " common thieves". They just want to steal you.By inducing fear-doubt-uncertainty (FUD).You sell low , they buy low and sell high.

Thats all.

Invest to the coin, sell it later if you like and make some profit but always keep at least 80% to your portfolio because common sense dictates that this coin and the electroneum platform in general , will succeed in the not-so distant future.


This post ended up longer that i originally had in mind , sorry for that , but consider it something like a voice of reason among the ridiculousness crescendo we witnessed the past 24 hrs.

Good Luck to everybody on Friday , remember not to sell everything. It is for your own benefit.
We own the coin , we are responsible now for any loss or profit we make , remember that for a transaction to evolve one is selling and another is buying.


Before selling , take a break and think , " Why Is This Person Buying My Fear? ".

Dont sell out of fear.
Sell some when you are OK with it.

wonderful. fantastic. That's the best thing I've read here for the last few weeks. very wise as yoda of starwars.

did you know why ppl really angry at?

hint: amount of premined coins.....Cheers!

So you are not ashamed of yourself and continue to spread those lies.
Ok I get it.

I know you know the answer, but let me explain one thing just for the readers that might bump to this post.

The moderator I think has ALLREADY REPLIED TO YOU IN PREVIOUS PAGE BUT YOU KEEP SPREADING LIES JUST TO BRING THIS POST FORWARD AND GAIN MORE REACH.. so typical amateurish tactic..

So listen, you are here?

The amount you say that it was premined, the one you provided a photo too just to  “prove your point “ , is 12,6 billion coins in from a block no.1 kept in stealth address.

From those coins the approx 4 billions are the ICO COINS THE INVESTORS BOUGHT and the rest are the COINS USED FOR THE REWARDS FROM MINING FINDING A BLOCK.

Of course you know that but ok, you know something?
I respect your Job. I hope it pays you well man.

I won’t reply again, just wrote it to reject your false argument.

Bye bye.

Ps: shame on you man. Really. Do something useful with your life instead of this dark tactics.

go read the announcement post,what they are promised is 6 billion coins premined ....not 12.6 billion!!!

are you taking too much of drugs that makes you blind ? Cheers!

btw i don't remember Monero have stealth address, or do you think this is a XSPEC clone? lol

bump!

[rebelman]

wake up it's scam nothing legit in this coin another shit coin

[BUY_SELL]

The project looks as fraud (sorry, my opinion). Let's see what happens from this

[fracas]

wake up it's scam nothing legit in this coin another shit coin

They can't get it even in front of evidence, absurd.

The project looks as fraud (sorry, my opinion). Let's see what happens from this

"Mobile mining" without "mobile mining". No difficult to see scam here.

[jhdeanda]

As I have been saying....It offers nothing new....Just a Monero Rip off badly done

[armaggedon]

So much FUD
i wonder how much they are paid for  
Such cry babies they all want the coin to be $100 in a month buy cry loudly on a 2 days delay hahaha newbies....