Haasonline Simple Trade Bot For BTCe and Bitstamp[Main topic]

[Hpotsirc]

Wow... now this is a really nice update! I will start testing it by the end of the week.
Thank you very very much! (Especially for the new Safeties  ) Also thank you for the explanations you have given during the last days Stephan!

Once again very good work. You and your crew can't be sleeping that much  

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[krach]

alex , are you using , or . ?
reset the whole bot

[alex69]

problem solved 

I got reply from Stephan

simply, disable the checkbox - not used servers -in the Server Settings

[dszuecs]

I keep getting this:

 Error placing order on Bitstamp: Cannot cast Newtonsoft.Json.Linq.JObject to Newtonsoft.Json.Linq.JToken.

Any clue? thanks

[orac69]

The new regression indicator seems to be working in reverse...   I get sell signals when they should be buy, and the other way round..

2014-16-04 10:16:10.516   |ORDER_STACK|   {Cryptsy Sell 10000.00000000 Doge @ 0.00005195 Ltc/Doge} changed to status COMPLETED

2014-16-04 10:49:23.232   |ORDER_STACK|   {Cryptsy Buy 10000.00000000 Doge @ 0.00005225 Ltc/Doge} changed to status COMPLETED

2014-17-04 12:35:07.202   |ORDER_STACK|   {Cryptsy Sell 10000.00000000 Doge @ 0.0000520 Ltc/Doge} changed to status COMPLETED

2014-17-04 12:56:00.758   |ORDER_STACK|   {Cryptsy Buy 10000.00000000 Doge @ 0.00005279 Ltc/Doge} changed to status COMPLETED

2014-17-04 01:31:42.267   |ORDER_STACK|   {Cryptsy Sell 10000.00000000 Doge @ 0.00005203 Ltc/Doge} changed to status COMPLETED

2014-17-04 02:40:27.242   |ORDER_STACK|   {Cryptsy Buy 10000.00000000 Doge @ 0.00005253 Ltc/Doge} changed to status COMPLETED

2014-17-04 02:41:31.779   |ORDER_STACK|   {Cryptsy Sell 10000.00000000 Doge @ 0.00005069 Ltc/Doge} changed to status COMPLETED

2014-17-04 04:13:29.384   |ORDER_STACK|   {Cryptsy Buy 10000.00000000 Doge @ 0.00005149 Ltc/Doge} changed to status COMPLETED

[Hpotsirc]

The new regression indicator seems to be working in reverse...   I get sell signals when they should be buy, and the other way round..

2014-16-04 10:16:10.516   |ORDER_STACK|   {Cryptsy Sell 10000.00000000 Doge @ 0.00005195 Ltc/Doge} changed to status COMPLETED

2014-16-04 10:49:23.232   |ORDER_STACK|   {Cryptsy Buy 10000.00000000 Doge @ 0.00005225 Ltc/Doge} changed to status COMPLETED

2014-17-04 12:35:07.202   |ORDER_STACK|   {Cryptsy Sell 10000.00000000 Doge @ 0.0000520 Ltc/Doge} changed to status COMPLETED

2014-17-04 12:56:00.758   |ORDER_STACK|   {Cryptsy Buy 10000.00000000 Doge @ 0.00005279 Ltc/Doge} changed to status COMPLETED

2014-17-04 01:31:42.267   |ORDER_STACK|   {Cryptsy Sell 10000.00000000 Doge @ 0.00005203 Ltc/Doge} changed to status COMPLETED

2014-17-04 02:40:27.242   |ORDER_STACK|   {Cryptsy Buy 10000.00000000 Doge @ 0.00005253 Ltc/Doge} changed to status COMPLETED

2014-17-04 02:41:31.779   |ORDER_STACK|   {Cryptsy Sell 10000.00000000 Doge @ 0.00005069 Ltc/Doge} changed to status COMPLETED

2014-17-04 04:13:29.384   |ORDER_STACK|   {Cryptsy Buy 10000.00000000 Doge @ 0.00005149 Ltc/Doge} changed to status COMPLETED

Have you backtested this? I did some backtests yesterday for BTCUSD on Bitstamp and got quite good results even though it sometimes sold low and bought high.

[krach]

I would test the new indicators using the "long" back test and with different values before using them. Try some bigger values, over time it should work out. Since I dont really understand how the regression indicator works I cant say why it acted that way but I am sure it makes sense according to that indicators logic. BTW you dont have to use every indicator

[21solider21]

Any tips on my best strategy that I have tested so far?

Indicators:
Stochastic Oscillator (Oscillator length 30, Buy level < 20, Sell level > 80) (BTCe LtcBtc 1min)

Safeties:
Dynamic adjusted drop-loss safety (Adjustment: 98,3 %, Update timer: 10) (BTCe LtcBtc)

I know it looks way too simple but through my back testing it looks to be far better than any other strategy. Any advises or improvements are welcome!!  

well i would change your dynamic drop loss to run at either 60 or 120 minutes so that you actually catch a drop in the price quickly. I would also play around with those number a bit so that you catch all of the major drops, maybe 99% works better than 98%, but you would have to play around with the numbers.

I would also include a few safeties like cancel order after 1 minute and perhaps an overcome fees/double fees (on only selling). Other than that it looks good, but maybe there are better indicators. I personally don't trade the btc/ltc pairs anymore as btc/usd or ltc/usd has bigger profits than btc/ltc.

Thanks so much! What settings are good for Btc/Usd?

[dszuecs]

Hiho, newbi over here

Might be that i missed something - could someone please explain:

I created a new bot, added Cryptsy API, connected.
I tried to test the bot with the basic strategy mentioned here: http://www.haasbot.com/what-is-the-most-basic-and-profitable-strategy/

So i added the Blind Signal -Indicator, added a fixed amount, ran the auto-tune utility - graph looks fine.
I than added the fee overcome insurance and started the bot.

What it does: it sells coins until there is no BTC left.
I checked the logfile and saw, that none of my [ORDER_STACK] gets marked as COMPLETED, they're all just EXECUTING..

What the heck am i doing wrong?

Cheers & thanks
Dennis

[mc]

Hiho, newbi over here

Might be that i missed something - could someone please explain:

I created a new bot, added Cryptsy API, connected.
I tried to test the bot with the basic strategy mentioned here: http://www.haasbot.com/what-is-the-most-basic-and-profitable-strategy/

So i added the Blind Signal -Indicator, added a fixed amount, ran the auto-tune utility - graph looks fine.
I than added the fee overcome insurance and started the bot.

What it does: it sells coins until there is no BTC left.
I checked the logfile and saw, that none of my [ORDER_STACK] gets marked as COMPLETED, they're all just EXECUTING..

What the heck am i doing wrong?

Cheers & thanks
Dennis

Hi dszuecs,

did you use the spread order option? I had the same issue at CEX.IO after I checked in one of my bots the spread order option (fixed trade amount). The bot placed 5 orders at a few seconds interval, each worth the total trade amount I set. The last orders were placed after the first two order were filled yet the bot did not switch position. I have then unchecked the spread order option and the bot worked just fine again. I didn't experiment with spread orders since.

Best

[21solider21]

Okay guys I'm a bit confused right now. Back testing showed me that it is important which indicator is on which position or is it just me? Because I have set up 2 bots with 100% equal
settings, the only difference was the position of indicators (when one of the two indicators was higher on the list result came out completely different). So what the deal with this, is the order of indicators, safeties etc. important? Thanks for answering me guys

[silverston]

Can somebody explane me difference between market order and limit order. As I see no difference right now

[krach]

I will try to explain it:
Limit order is an order for a set price and only that price. "Buy ammount X at price Y"
If you were to yell "I want 5 kilos of apples for 10$"= you only pay 10$ but your order might take longer to fill than a market order
Market order is an order that starts at price X and buys untill the ammount is filled "Buy ammount X starting at price Y untill ammount X is full".
If you were to yell "I want 5 kilos of apples NOW starting at 10$ a kilo untill I get 5 kilo"= you might pay more than 10$ but your order will be filled asap


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The reason you dont see a difference is that the bot can not track the market orders , atm. Therefore in the log you wont see a difference, but in the trade log at the exchange you will!
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[silverston]

I will try to explain it:
Limit order is an order for a set price and only that price. "Buy ammount X at price Y"
If you were to yell "I want 5 kilos of apples for 10$"= you only pay 10$ but your order might take longer to fill than a market order
Market order is an order that starts at price X and buys untill the ammount is filled "Buy ammount X starting at price Y untill ammount X is full".
If you were to yell "I want 5 kilos of apples NOW starting at 10$ a kilo untill I get 5 kilo"= you might pay more than 10$ but your order will be filled asap


-!!!
The reason you dont see a difference is that the bot can not track the market orders , atm. Therefore in the log you wont see a difference, but in the trade log at the exchange you will!
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Thanks mate!
Now I understand 

[eyegoatboy]

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what ?

[millunare]

Is there like an irc chat room or skype chat where people can help other trouble shoot?  Cause I am having zero luck getting anything to come anything remotely close to trading.  Even at a loss, no trades initiate or complete.

I can hit the Buy Now or Sell now and it works fine, but I dont need a bot to manually trade.

Any of the seasoned users out here care to take a few minutes and give me some input?

Either PM on here or I can PM my skype info or gtalk.

Not looking for any strategies, just looking to get this thing working properly.

[solarion]

Just saying it's not trading doesn't really mean much. Was it supposed to trade? Were buy &/or sell conditions met? What does the debug log indicate?

[solarion]

@Stephan

I'm still having difficulties saving tradebots. The ability to save individual bots seems to have broken in the classic interface and the web interface doesn't have a manual save feature. It's been awhile since the program has eaten all my tradebots, but I feel like I'm overdue. Of course I back up the xml file, but the program doesn't seem to save the file at regular intervals that I can detect. Can you advise?

[millunare]

Well here is what i am getting now after installing a reinstalling.

Just setup a pairing, added the indicators , put in a low amount for testing purposes.

2014-18-04 02:23:22.105   |ORDER_STACK|   {Cryptsy Buy 10 Zet @ Market Price} changed to status QUEUED
2014-18-04 02:23:22.110   |ORDER_STACK|   {Cryptsy Buy 10 Zet @ Market Price} changed to status EXECUTING
2014-18-04 02:23:22.110   |ORDER_STACK|   {Cryptsy Buy 10 Zet @ Market Price} changed to status EXECUTING
2014-18-04 02:23:22.189   |ORDER_STACK|   {Cryptsy Buy 10 Zet @ Market Price} changed to status FAILED
2014-18-04 02:23:22.203   |ORDER_STACK|   Order Cryptsy Buy 10 Zet @ Market Price failed: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.

Any ideas?  Is it not going through because the price changed to fast on the exchange?

[silverston]

ProcentageChange - Insurance not working
Market order activated.
Bot bought @0.02548 and sold @0.02557
I think 0.02548+0.5%=0.0256074, not 0.02557

But in trade logbook wright : buy @0.0255 sell@0.0256
0.0255+0.5=0.0256 its ok, but it is NOT procent