Haasonline Simple Trade Bot For BTCe and Bitstamp[Main topic]

[youngwebs]

Since last update i have the general trackers at the bottom in error. the bot itself is working correctly?

several problems exists:
- not exchange date is visible in the blocks
- they go outside the screen to the right
- no scrollbars are visible to scroll down (mouse scrolling works)

any tips on this, or is it a bug?
I'm using windows2012 server

[silverston]

after restart not show any BTC in my wallet. Other currensy is on but BTC is missing

[cpusher]

since update:
also don't have BTC-e wallet anymore according to HTS!?

* tracking stops after some time on BTCe, my bot on BTCe is not functioning anymore.
* stochastic indicator dont show last market price anymore. i miss the last 3.5 hours.
yesterday the BTCe bot was also trading on BTCe with old market info, very dangerous so please dont use this version for btce.
on cryptsy it works ok now.. but please fix BTCe now (and keep Cryptsy ok)

[cpusher]

almost crying when checking my great profit HTS shows me.
i see it made 20+ trades with 10% profit today, let's check...

on cryptsy i see on of the first sell's still pending in the cryptsy orderbook.
because of the downtrend i will only lose value.

why did HTS think it could still go on trading while it was pending as order
price dropped as hell and the order will be never filled like that.

on top of that i see HTS took a another trade with again the trade amount. so i have 2*trade amount on my loss

HTS is really buggy and making big losses for me, hope we get the stable rock HTS asap.

thanks for listening to my frustrations...

[kalross]

almost crying when checking my great profit HTS shows me.
i see it made 20+ trades with 10% profit today, let's check...

on cryptsy i see on of the first sell's still pending in the cryptsy orderbook.
because of the downtrend i will only lose value.

why did HTS think it could still go on trading while it was pending as order
price dropped as hell and the order will be never filled like that.

on top of that i see HTS took a another trade with again the trade amount. so i have 2*trade amount on my loss

HTS is really buggy and making big losses for me, hope we get the stable rock HTS asap.

thanks for listening to my frustrations...

Sounds like HTS placed the order then?  The currency was falling so fast, that the order was not filled  maybe?  This can indeed happen unfortunately.  The same may have happened if you'd have placed the order manually.  A bot can give no guarantee of an order filling, only the market can fill an order.  Exchange API (lag) or internet connection issues may cause this also.  Cryptsy API can be unreliable.  I've just returned to trading there after several weeks as it seems better.

I understand your frustration.  Trading is stressful at times.  Maybe I can suggest a solution.

QtBitcoinTrader has a facility to place an order + or - a percentage.  This way, they order is more likely to filled, particularly when a currency is falling as you describe.  It may be useful to have this facility in HTS, though it can make profit/loss calculations inaccurate  unless HTS retrieves the order history and makes the calculations.

Stephan.  Is it possible to have a percentage adjustment to placed orders?

K

[mc]

after restart not show any BTC in my wallet. Other currensy is on but BTC is missing

Same issue here. Version 0.9.8.2 shows 0 BTC in BTCe wallet although there are coins. BTC/USD sell trades and PPC/BTC buy trades appear to be processed in bots' trade logbook, but they did not reach BTCe.
I deactivated bots until problem solved...

[Nolii]

This may come off as a dumb question, but how much profit would this bot actually generate if mining scrypt coins with around 1500khash and then selling/trading them?
With the current auto-sell features of various multipools I'm around 0,015 BTC / day.

I'm thinking of either buying 1-2 extra R9 280x cards for mining, or the advanced trade bot instead, does anyone have any idea of what would give the highest ROI?

[krach]

"I'm thinking of either buying 1-2 extra R9 280x cards for mining, or the advanced trade bot instead, does anyone have any idea of what would give the highest ROI? "
Hard to say exactly. Haasbot licence is lifetime, the cards will be good for a few months and then you will need to sell them to get your ROI.

[kalross]

.... but how much profit would this bot actually generate if mining scrypt coins......

Depends on your settings :-)  Anything between 0-100000000%  ;-)

[trubar]

BUG:

Debug logbook

<#LOGBOOK.MESSAGE>
<#TRADEBOT.LOGBOOK.END>

[subhead]

since update:
also don't have BTC-e wallet anymore according to HTS!?

* tracking stops after some time on BTCe, my bot on BTCe is not functioning anymore.
* stochastic indicator dont show last market price anymore. i miss the last 3.5 hours.
yesterday the BTCe bot was also trading on BTCe with old market info, very dangerous so please dont use this version for btce.
on cryptsy it works ok now.. but please fix BTCe now (and keep Cryptsy ok)

yea stepan told us he is unit testing his shit but everyday more problems rise of nowhere. is there an opportunity to give you the license back und you refund us? really your software sucks quite hard in the last weeks.

just my opinion.

[cpusher]

.... but how much profit would this bot actually generate if mining scrypt coins......

Depends on your settings :-)  Anything between 0-100000000%  ;-)

to be honest you should say: between -100% and +100000000%

my loss the last month is about 60%

until now im not happy with HTS, only seeing troubles.

* having bought 3*trade amount in 1 hour on Cryptsy (making loss)!?

* losing track of BTCe market price and even trading on wrong market values!?

so until HTS is not fixed, count on big loss instead of profits.

* stillllll I do believe it will be fixed and profit will be possible in the future, but Stephan really has to take testing much more serious

[skinz]

Phew   just finished going through 77 pages, I want to jump right in and get the advanced trade bot but over the last few pages there seems to be alot of people with issues. So I have 4 questions before purchase, if anyone can answer

1) Having read through the whole thread it seem this bot used to work and posts by people were mainly related to configurations but over the last few pages there seems to be alot of issues with the actual bot, therfore does the bot actually work in its current form and its an issue of people not being able to confgiure properly as was happening in earlier versions or are there really issues that need to be addressed.

2) Can this be used in a virtual machine

3) You mentioned that you are unable to make the bot work with mcxnow, therefore you have stopped working on it. Will you be still adding this exchange

4) Same as above but for the exchange Kraken

Does anyone have any experience with any other software on the above 2 exchanges in case this bot does not / or is not able to perform

TIA

Ummm another issue posted as I tried to submit my post 

[youngwebs]

Phew   just finished going through 77 pages, I want to jump right in and get the advanced trade bot but over the last few pages there seems to be alot of people with issues. So I have 4 questions before purchase, if anyone can answer

1) Having read through the whole thread it seem this bot used to work and posts by people were mainly related to configurations but over the last few pages there seems to be alot of issues with the actual bot, therfore does the bot actually work in its current form and its an issue of people not being able to confgiure properly as was happening in earlier versions or are there really issues that need to be addressed.

2) Can this be used in a virtual machine

3) You mentioned that you are unable to make the bot work with mcxnow, therefore you have stopped working on it. Will you be still adding this exchange

4) Same as above but for the exchange Kraken

Does anyone have any experience with any other software on the above 2 exchanges in case this bot does not / or is not able to perform

TIA

Ummm another issue posted as I tried to submit my post 

1: it works for me
2: I'm running this on a windows2012 virtual machine (hosted on a vps)
3 an 4: I only trade at btc-e

I do have a bug (could be windows2012 problem as well) with the current webinterface, but the trade engine is working and making profit for me.

[skinz]

Phew   just finished going through 77 pages, I want to jump right in and get the advanced trade bot but over the last few pages there seems to be alot of people with issues. So I have 4 questions before purchase, if anyone can answer

1) Having read through the whole thread it seem this bot used to work and posts by people were mainly related to configurations but over the last few pages there seems to be alot of issues with the actual bot, therfore does the bot actually work in its current form and its an issue of people not being able to confgiure properly as was happening in earlier versions or are there really issues that need to be addressed.

2) Can this be used in a virtual machine

3) You mentioned that you are unable to make the bot work with mcxnow, therefore you have stopped working on it. Will you be still adding this exchange

4) Same as above but for the exchange Kraken

Does anyone have any experience with any other software on the above 2 exchanges in case this bot does not / or is not able to perform

TIA

Ummm another issue posted as I tried to submit my post 

1: it works for me
2: I'm running this on a windows2012 virtual machine (hosted on a vps)
3 an 4: I only trade at btc-e

I do have a bug (could be windows2012 problem as well) with the current webinterface, but the trade engine is working and making profit for me.

Thanks for the reply, thats good to know however I guess the last 2 questions can only be answered by Stephan. I will await Stephan's answer reagding the 2 exchanges before taking the plunge, in the meanwhile If anyone else can offer any insights, much appreciated. Thanks again

[Stephan224]

Phew   just finished going through 77 pages, I want to jump right in and get the advanced trade bot but over the last few pages there seems to be alot of people with issues. So I have 4 questions before purchase, if anyone can answer

1) Having read through the whole thread it seem this bot used to work and posts by people were mainly related to configurations but over the last few pages there seems to be alot of issues with the actual bot, therfore does the bot actually work in its current form and its an issue of people not being able to confgiure properly as was happening in earlier versions or are there really issues that need to be addressed.

2) Can this be used in a virtual machine

3) You mentioned that you are unable to make the bot work with mcxnow, therefore you have stopped working on it. Will you be still adding this exchange

4) Same as above but for the exchange Kraken

Does anyone have any experience with any other software on the above 2 exchanges in case this bot does not / or is not able to perform

TIA

Ummm another issue posted as I tried to submit my post 

1. Most of the people will not share there results because of privacy reasons. And most of the happy users are silent because there is no reason to post anything. (you can see this pattern back in the entire topic, if cryptsy fails you read posts about cryptsy and not about the other exchanges)

2. Yes, just make sure Windows Vista or more recent is running and .NET 4.5 must be installed.

3. This software does NOT support mxcnow. We have tried to add support for them but its was proven to be impossible. Maybe its updated by now and possible, so its worth a look later on.

4. The poll at the website tells what exchange will be added next. personally i hope it will

Tip: If you want to play it safe.... you can go for the Simple license first and update later on to the Advanced one. Licence updates are fully supported. (get them a lot these days)

[silverston]

Stephan
What about BTC-e issue?

[Stephan224]

Stephan
What about BTC-e issue?

I have confirmation on the display of 0 BTC inside the wallet. But nothing more. This is not a block for trading, the max-trade amount is not checked before a trade. For the rest i can not yet reproduce the posted problems yet. The given pairs seem to work and all ordering works. (i need to test a lot more btw)


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Hi all, i have got a small progress report to share. It shows what we are working on here and what you can expect at the next update.

As most of you know the next update will be all about stability. So we are having a detailed look to the code again and based on this we try to add improvements to cover all the possible situation that anything could go wrong. At the same time we review the code and add small improvements to it.

Orders
Within the orderstack a small bug has been found. If a exchange is not connected or not working then when an order gets placed it will go wrong. The order does not get submitted and the orderlist returns empty the result is that software thinks the order is filled. Aka it switches coin position and registers a trade when its not suppose too.

We have found the cause of this and i can tell it has been solved. But because at normal usage this bug is not visible, so we did not push an update or it.

I can also tell the orderstack has been enhanced by a backup system that confirms the orders based on the wallet amount. So despite the bug that is fixed its becomes very unlikely this system will fall.

Price trackers
For the price trackers we have implemented not a lot of improvements. The price tracking itself goes very well with the exception of BTCChina. But i am talking it over with them to solve this and to get the LTC in it.

We may not have made much improvements to the price tracking, we did make some enhancements to it. At the current moment we read a price each minute and we use that price that we read. Well this is enhancement at the next update, because we will go over to a weighted price. A weighted price is almost exactly the same, but the difference it that 3 prices will be used to make 1 price. So on the INVISIBLE background we will be polling the prices each 20seconds. (in depth... EMA is used on the 3 prices to make the final weighted price)

Of course there is also a backup system in place for when the prices can not be read each 20seconds. In that situation we just fall back to the current price poll system.

The same kind of weighted prices will be used for intervals above 1 minute. For example, if you set a trade indicator to 10 minutes updates then the prices of the past 10minutes will be used (again EMA!) to calculated a weighted price. (again also here we use the last price at the moment)

The real-world impact of the weighted prices compared to the current system is very small. We will remain unique in trading with this bot and at the same time we get a little closer to the prices used by other websites. They seem to use weighted prices and i want you all to be able to reproduce those charts, or get even more close to it. (like i said earlier, i will prove the used calculation are 100% valid)

Trade-bots
The trade-bots itself are a very solid system so despite some error messages that could be better we did nothing more to them.

We did make some preparing to the trade-amount. At the current moment we use a fixed trade-amount. It works very good, but there is a request for more possibilities. So we are preparing ourselves for supporting All-in and Percentages (and any other suggestion in the future). I will NOT promise this for the next update yet.

Indicators
Some small improvements where made to make sure the configuration of the indicators remains reasonable and working. Nothing more because everything else works as expected.

For the next update i will be adding one indicator; this one is the Aroon indicator.

Cached prices/Backtest
First of all i can tell that you can expect to see that i will double the amount of prices read at the start of the software (after the update). This is possible because i am updating the webserver and because of speed improvements. This will have direct effect on the backtest, it will go up from 26-27hours to 52-54hours of data at the next update.

After this we will try to expand the backtest even more in the coming update. For this moment i can only tell i am doing tests on a full month of price data.
 

This is where we are at the current moment, with these changes. We are not done yet, so i can not give a release date. But i estimate it will be somewhere end next week.

Once this update is done we will be getting back to adding new features. I still have got a lot of cool and interesting things planned, but first things first.

[skinz]

Phew   just finished going through 77 pages, I want to jump right in and get the advanced trade bot but over the last few pages there seems to be alot of people with issues. So I have 4 questions before purchase, if anyone can answer

1) Having read through the whole thread it seem this bot used to work and posts by people were mainly related to configurations but over the last few pages there seems to be alot of issues with the actual bot, therfore does the bot actually work in its current form and its an issue of people not being able to confgiure properly as was happening in earlier versions or are there really issues that need to be addressed.

2) Can this be used in a virtual machine

3) You mentioned that you are unable to make the bot work with mcxnow, therefore you have stopped working on it. Will you be still adding this exchange

4) Same as above but for the exchange Kraken

Does anyone have any experience with any other software on the above 2 exchanges in case this bot does not / or is not able to perform

TIA

Ummm another issue posted as I tried to submit my post 

1. Most of the people will not share there results because of privacy reasons. And most of the happy users are silent because there is no reason to post anything. (you can see this pattern back in the entire topic, if cryptsy fails you read posts about cryptsy and not about the other exchanges)

2. Yes, just make sure Windows Vista or more recent is running and .NET 4.5 must be installed.

3. This software does NOT support mxcnow. We have tried to add support for them but its was proven to be impossible. Maybe its updated by now and possible, so its worth a look later on.

4. The poll at the website tells what exchange will be added next. personally i hope it will

Tip: If you want to play it safe.... you can go for the Simple license first and update later on to the Advanced one. Licence updates are fully supported. (get them a lot these days)

Thanks for the reply

1) Yep I agree people will not share their configs but based on the types of questions and issues earlier in the thread it was fairly easy to see the bot was working however later seems people are having issues, This is no real issue for me, its all about learning but more recently the qestions and issues seem to be different.

2) Thanks thats fine

3) Can you try mxcnow again or provide a time-line for trial as this is the reason for looking at this bot, if this is not supported I may have to seek out alternative at-least until you are able to support mcx

4) The poll at the website is showing an error when clicked to check results

Thanks

[KS]

I'm having an issue where HTS will crash on starting after a Win7 x64 reboot (might also happen from cold start - haven't tested, PC is running mostly 24/7).

HTS is set to start automatically with Windows and I "exit" it manually before rebooting.

I get a .NET Runtime Error Event ID 1026:

Code:

Application: HTS Launcher.exe
Framework Version: v4.0.30319
Description: The process was terminated due to an unhandled exception.
Exception Info: System.IO.FileNotFoundException
Stack:
   at System.Reflection.AssemblyName.nGetFileInformation(System.String)
   at System.Reflection.AssemblyName.GetAssemblyName(System.String)
   at HTS_Launcher.Program.GetAssemblyVersion(System.String)
   at HTS_Launcher.Program.CheckForUpdates()
   at HTS_Launcher.Program.Main(System.String[])

Looks like it's missing a file, but then I can start it manually with no error ?!? Also, the error mentions .NET 4.0 but I have .NET 4.5 (4.5.50938) installed.

Accompanying Event ID 1000 error:

Code:

Faulting application name: HTS Launcher.exe, version: 1.0.0.1, time stamp: 0x52fe8bf6
Faulting module name: KERNELBASE.dll, version: 6.1.7601.18229, time stamp: 0x51fb1116
Exception code: 0xe0434352
Fault offset: 0x0000c41f
Faulting process id: 0x1110
Faulting application start time: 0x01cf396d4a74d556
Faulting application path: C:\Users\xxxxx\yyyyyy\HaasonlineTradingServerV010\HTS\HTS Launcher.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Windows\syswow64\KERNELBASE.dll
Report Id: 89c07ca0-a560-11e3-8095-18a905f8eb98