Haasonline Simple Trade Bot For BTCe and Bitstamp[Main topic]

[smlu]

Hi Stephan,  I have two suggestions:

    would it be able to add cancel button in open orders overview page, so you could cancel particular open order?

    And another suggestion it would be cool if you could have currency converter for Total profit made entry.


Thanks

[eyegoatboy]

if i set the Trade-amount to 100000 Ifc why did it buy 399,999 lfc

[SmokedMolex]

@Stephan,

Feature Request:

Single Click Stop All Bots Trading

I noticed the sell offs today and some of my safeties weren't working the way I had planned.  I had to stop all the bots manually and sell off to hold my position.

EDIT: Problem with BTC China was my wallet wasn't synced to exchange.  I am addressing that then hope to be using HTS there. TY for your support and software!

UPDATE: BTC China Wallet synced and bots see it.  I will set up a small trader and see how it goes over there.

UPDATE 2: I spoke too soon.  I can see the wallet amount in BTC but I get this error on console.

2/6/2014 8:56:33 PM Polling failed, no prices are availible for BTCChina at BtcCny.

I tried resetting the API keys but it didn't seem to help.

Do you have any suggestions for me to try?

Thanks!

[Stephan224]

@SmokedMolex:
I am sorry, but i have no suggestion for BTCChina at the moment. There API is giving some very strange readings. Sometimes the prices get read and sometimes not. Even the fail-over is sometimes not able to solve this (you can see this in the log) I asked BTCChina for information about this but they have no answer yet. My guess is that they are changing there API, but this does not match up the strange readings. I am a bit i the dark on this, but i keep track of it too. (i trade also at BTCChina with the software)

BTW just to tell.... i have not seen terrible problems because of this. In the past i have seen exchanges progressing orders way to late with a lot of losses, this does not seem to happen at BTCChina. If such things happen i will directly submit a warning to everybody.

Edit: A full stop, is a great idea, i will add it!

@eyegoatboy:
Can you send me some details on that? Maybe can you send me the log with a support ticket at the website. This way we can have a detailed look what has happened, because this looks very strange now.

@smlu:
Next week i will start working an a innovation for the software (something new) where cancelling orders become really important. So i have the feature to cancel orders planned for next week to be added.

A converter is indeed a good suggestion, i have added it to the list here.

[mdmedina07]

Simple question and I might have missed the post.  But if you setup 2 bots for same exchange, lets say ltcbtc and dogebtc, do they "steal" from each other as they process or are they aware of each others actions.

[krach]

"Simple question and I might have missed the post.  But if you setup 2 bots for same exchange, lets say ltcbtc and dogebtc, do they "steal" from each other as they process or are they aware of each others actions."

No, they dont know what each other are doing and are isolated from each other.  Just make sure you have enough BTC to fund the trades.

[InCoinsWeTrust2]

Hello, i'm new to the bot and i'm searching for right configs. If someone could share great profiles, or give me the way to go 

I'm currently doing btc/usd bot on btc-e with 5BTC with following configs :

Configuration - NewBot

Safeties :
     Dynamic adjusted drop-loss safety (Adjustment: 95,0 %, Update timer: 10)   
     Dynamic adjusted roof-out safety (Adjustment: 125,0 %, Update timer: 10)
Indicator :
     MACD Indicator (Trend type: EMA, Short 12, Long 25, MA Cross-over) (2 minutes timer)
Insurance :
     Overcome fee costs -Insurance
     Price change -Insurance (Wanted raise: 1,0, Wanted drop: 1,0)
     Avoid Buy/Sell Walls -Insurance

Is that a good way to go ? I'm running this for a little more than 12 hours, it seems to work (made few bucks with buying/selling on 5$ margins), it also sold during the last crash and bought back when under 700, and mow the price is 745+ and it's holding so i guess it's not bad, but I would like to make it a little more "agressive".

I don't care about losing money, cryptos are gambling so if you have some suggestions don't hesitate to give them i won't blame you if it make me loose sometimes


Also, i would like to know how to configure for alts on cryptsy, let's say dogecoin for beginnig, with a very aggressive profile.

Thanks, and keep up the good work Stephan !

[smlu]

@Stephan,

on bot configuration page for Cryptsy ppc/btc trade, sometimes I get 0 for "Total in wallet on bought side " and "Total in wallet on sold side" even thou there are assets.
I've checked log viewer and it says: |ERROR|   The underlying connection was closed: An unexpected error occurred on a receive.
When I check wallet overview page everything appears correct.


And another question. Is it normal for trading bot to count open order as complete? For instance i have trading bot set up on Ppc/btc cryptsy market with MACD as Indicator and
Overcome fee costs -Insurance. The bot is keep putting sell orders and count them as successful (last sell price, last profit made, total trades etc.. are changed) even thou the open orders are never filled out, in another words the ppcs are not being sold.

[m4gnus]

Hi there

This is my first post, but I have been reading on the forum for a long time.

I have never tried trading, so I don't know anything about this software or trading bots, other than the little I have read about it.

I just have a simple question:

If I put my 20 BTC into this trading software with the default settings, can it generate around 1-2% for me every day? Without risk of losing a lot?

Thank you!

Best,
Magnus

[krach]

Hi m4gnus,

Before putting 20 BTC into any bot I would learn a little more about trading and some basics.

Nothing is 100% for sure, but you could set the bot up in a conservative way so that the chances of losses would be low, still there is a risk.

I would just start with very small ammounts, maybe an altcoin. Then you can see how the bot works and if you made a loss trading 1 namecoin then it wouldnt be so dramatic. There is documentation on the haasbot site on how to set up the bot, or ask here for help.

 

[m4gnus]

Hi krach,

Thank you! I am reading a lot about it right now, and find it interesting. I wouldn't want to spend too much time in front of the computer though, as I simply do not have that right now - but I am not expecting any big profits either.

Do you think I can count on 1-2% though? It would be a lot more fun than just having them.

And yes, I would of course try out with small amounts first, maybe setting the bots up differently - what I ultimately would want though, is to just be able to count on 1-2% of the 20 BTC in profits a day, without me doing anything :-)

Thanks again for your answer!

Best,
Magnus

Hi m4gnus,

Before putting 20 BTC into any bot I would learn a little more about trading and some basics.

Nothing is 100% for sure, but you could set the bot up in a conservative way so that the chances of losses would be low, still there is a risk.

I would just start with very small ammounts, maybe an altcoin. Then you can see how the bot works and if you made a loss trading 1 namecoin then it wouldnt be so dramatic. There is documentation on the haasbot site on how to set up the bot, or ask here for help.

 

[krach]

1%-2% is a realistic goal. I think if you have it on a conservative setting you might make 0% somedays too.
-krach

[Stephan224]

Please all note: Russia has put a ban to the Bitcoin, i am not sure how this will affect trading BTC-e. But i would recommend to keep track of the news. As soon as i know more i will post it.

[krach]

BTC-E is based in Bulgaira , they are not trading Russian Fiat anymore.

[papasmurph]

Hello Stephan,

when using the ROC indicator is says pls. enter valid value nearest 0 or 1...  you cant change the 0.005 or change the buy/sell signal mar5k and save like that.

Pls. fix that next update.l

[Stephan224]

How about this button at every indicator?



I am implementing this button on each "Edit indicator" -page (after the update of course) but with this button you will be able to setup (and tune) your indicator so its becomes responsive based on the prices of the last hour. I am sure you now think: "So i add an indicator and press this busson and then i am done..." Well yes that is what i am trying to describe here.

The success rate i see here is about 90%-95% sure based on the auto-setup. What i mean by this is that the auto-setup is about 90%-95% sure to setup something that will respond for the coming hour. The next hour the succes rate goes down to about 80%. The "missing" percentage applies to situations where prices will go out of scope. This is something what i saw happening yesterday and the drop. At such a moment (in my case) the safety kicked in at the benchmark and so trading stopped to protect my coins. So this new technology is not 100% solid, but we are getting close... really close. (thats what i believe)

At this moment i am doing some final tests to the benchmarking tool, with this tool you will be able to see how your trade-bot behaves under real-time conditions. The principe behind this benchmark is simple, it uses the prices of the past 2 hours to see what has happened. The trade-bot you benchmark will behave exactly the same as a real working trade-bot should have done. So the numbers and output being produced can be trusted, they really show what could have happend.

As i told before this will not be the limit, i am NOT sure if i will make it in time for this update. But i can promiss auto-tuning capabilites of a trade-bot. What i mean by this is that you will be able to setup an trade-bot and leave it up to the software to fine-tune it for you. In essence this is based on the Auto Setup of an indicator and running a lot of benchmarks to see what will give you the most earnings. But again, i am NOT sure if i will finish this new feature in time. Its a real complex feature that requires a lot of development time from my side. For now i just want to make sure the auto setup and the benchmark are running smooth.

@papasmurph:
That bug has been fixed 2 releases ago. I can recommend you to unpack the "update.zip" (near the EXE) because it looks like the update does not progressed at your side. (i will have look to the code why this could happen)

[papasmurph]

ok thanks. It worked.   

[krach]

The auto tune setup sounds really interesting. Is is based on Moving Averages?

[Stephan224]

The auto tune setup sounds really interesting. Is is based on Moving Averages?

The "Auto setup" applies to the "Edit indicator" page, so it in fact depends on which indicator you have selected.


I will try to explain this by the most indicator there is, the high/low price indicator. I think this gives a good example how this concept works. (but again this is different for each indicator!)

If you add this indicator to your trade-bot and press "Auto setup" then some code will put to work to find out the maximum price and the lowest price. Of course it would not be realistic to just pass over those values to the settings of this indicator. So on the background the code does some more analysis using the average price.

Using the highest and lowest price the bandwidth (or scope) will be set, of course with a correction of (in this case) 60% so the that will ensure continues trading. Using the average price the scope will be fine-tuned so it becomes really active.

If this is done then a small benchmark is done to confirm it works. And if needed some adjustments will be made again.

This concept sounds indeed very cool and i can confirm it is. But i also must say there are some limits to it. During the tests of the past days i had some situations where no settings could be found. Of course this does not mean the concept fails, but there must be enough movement (and the right kind of movement) on the currency to make this work. (for example: i tested an moving average on an random minor alt-coin. That would just fail)

[SmokedMolex]

@Stephan,

What is the minimum recommended time frame to use on indicators to make sure we are not hitting trade noise?


Also is there any planned support for other exchanges like mcxnow?


EDIT: After the recent price adjustment, I found myself in a losing position.  So I am going back through my bots and trying to understand what is wrong.

What I am running into is something like Haas MACD 15,10,5,3 minute timers don't match BitcoinWisdom.....not even close.  In fact, they are opposite.  When MACD indicates it is time to sell on btcwisdom my bot is doing exactly the opposite.

The only timer I found somewhat close is the 1 minute timer.  Everything else seems to be garbage, especially when pulling 120 minute history.

Also I notice that if I press the "Clear chart Data" button it puts me in a whole different bot.  <~~~Super annoying

Can you shed some light on this for me please Stephan?  Thank you!