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December 16, 2013, 08:21:43 PM
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Anyone got any luck having a reply from them lately?

I'm asking legitimate questions, such as
"the invoice you sent me includes a control unit (sierra), will you send it for real or do i have to buy it myself?"
"will you send USB cables and hubs along with the control unit?"

Makes me wonder...

(and btw, their telephone number doesn't work anymore).
yup... BFL STYLE ....    Shocked

at least if btc crashes fast enough they will lose most of what they stole....  hell they are probably the ones crashing the price and not china

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December 16, 2013, 10:10:35 PM
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Why no tweets in 4 days?? This doesn't look good. I don't see how they can possibly make the deadline. They don't even seem to be working weekends!
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December 16, 2013, 10:18:27 PM
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Yes, probably.
Another point in my favour for my lawyer... But i recall another user complaining of the lack of answers a few days ago, this is why i asked here...

Yeah, I was that user I suppose. I haven't received any answer back from HF tickets ( 10 days ago or so) from John's email or even John 's skype, even he is online all time and reading my messages.  And I was just requesting an invoice and to change the shipping adress as they told me months ago that could be done without problem

Again, as usual HF do not care about nothing more that the money they got in their pocket

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December 16, 2013, 10:31:40 PM
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Again, as usual HF do not care about nothing more that the money they got in their pocket
I don't get it. What they think they are doing? This is like shooting in your foot. It doesen't make sense, even if you are a scammer you try to provide a minimum level of support to your customers.

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December 16, 2013, 10:39:31 PM
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ALWAYS BET ON iCE...

Since you like to bet, how about accepting mine?

I have 5 BTC that says HashFast will not ship a working miner containing Golden Nonce chips to even one customer in 2013.  (It has to be physical delivery.  Hosting doesn't count.)

Care to put up 5 BTC of your own against that?

Sounds good to me.  I presume you're OK with using John K for escrow.

Care to make it 10 BTC?   Cool

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Well Bogart, do we have a bet or not?

Are you going to man up and put your Bitcoin where your mouth is, or run away like a scared little pony?

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December 16, 2013, 11:19:48 PM
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Now can you please provide data for the maximum 24/7 safe current per 18AWG wire.
My own research led me to believe it is much lower than 9A.

Useful table here

http://www.powerstream.com/Wire_Size.htm

using "The Maximum Amps for Chassis Wiring is also a conservative rating, but is meant for wiring in air, and not in a bundle."

AWG 18 is okay up to 16A  (~<200W @ 12V)


I highly doubt that you can run 550W through the PCI-E cable without any consequences.
One of my PSUs (Cooler Master V850) is powering an October Jupiter and each module is being fed by a different PCI-E cable and still they get noticeably hot (around 44 degrees max).
Or try to connect 2 modules per PCI-E cable and it gets even hotter, yet the current per strand is only around 8-9A.

I use the 2x4pin ATX plug wires to run ~500W for an overclocked antminer

24" PCI-E cables with 16AWG wires and stripped ends - great for server PSU mods, best prices https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=563461 also selling 6" M-F-M PCIe splitters and PCIe-PCIe
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December 16, 2013, 11:21:16 PM
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Now they refuse to change the Babyjet case for a sierra one. Still thinking who was the smart guy who though  " lets put the boards into an oem atx case so the can't have them hosted into the datacenters and then we change them for future batches ". Then cannot even change a 50$ metal case after been 2 months delayed.

Now I have to change the hosting again when they claimed to be offering hosting in a week time, back in October as the pcbs...Really good job HF  Shocked

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December 16, 2013, 11:37:33 PM
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Now can you please provide data for the maximum 24/7 safe current per 18AWG wire.
My own research led me to believe it is much lower than 9A.

Useful table here

http://www.powerstream.com/Wire_Size.htm

using "The Maximum Amps for Chassis Wiring is also a conservative rating, but is meant for wiring in air, and not in a bundle."

AWG 18 is okay up to 16A  (~<200W @ 12V)


I highly doubt that you can run 550W through the PCI-E cable without any consequences.
One of my PSUs (Cooler Master V850) is powering an October Jupiter and each module is being fed by a different PCI-E cable and still they get noticeably hot (around 44 degrees max).
Or try to connect 2 modules per PCI-E cable and it gets even hotter, yet the current per strand is only around 8-9A.

I use the 2x4pin ATX plug wires to run ~500W for an overclocked antminer

What AWG are the cables? What voltage?

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December 16, 2013, 11:57:28 PM
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Now they refuse to change the Babyjet case for a sierra one. Still thinking who was the smart guy who though  " lets put the boards into an oem atx case so the can't have them hosted into the datacenters and then we change them for future batches ". Then cannot even change a 50$ metal case after been 2 months delayed.

Now I have to change the hosting again when they claimed to be offering hosting in a week time, back in October as the pcbs...Really good job HF  Shocked

You ordered a Baby Jet, knowing full well it comes in an ATX desktop case.

You paid for a Baby Jet, knowing full well it comes in an ATX desktop case.

HashFast already got an expensive Corsair ATX desktop case for your Baby Jet.

If you wanted a rackmount Sierra, you should have ordered a rackmount Sierra instead of a Baby Jet in an ATX desktop case.



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Hey ice,  you have any contacts at hash fast?  They seem to have gone MIA during the home stretch.

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Hey ice,  you have any contacts at hash fast?  They seem to have gone MIA during the home stretch.

There are million things to take care of during the home stretch.

Adding personnel to the customer support team is one of them.   Tongue

I'm sure they are swamped with orders, inquiries, etc. because of all the BTC hype in general and their spectacular 500GH/sec/chip achievement in particular.


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December 17, 2013, 12:24:29 AM
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Hey ice,  you have any contacts at hash fast?  They seem to have gone MIA during the home stretch.

There are million things to take care of during the home stretch.

Adding personnel to the customer support team is one of them.   Tongue

I'm sure they are swamped with orders, inquiries, etc. because of all the BTC hype in general and their spectacular 500GH/sec/chip achievement in particular.
Whats interesting is the long term charts show that BTC is heading way down in price. It will tick up one last time, then comes the nose dive. That is a good thing for those of us holding cash. A bad thing for those holding BTC.


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December 17, 2013, 12:27:22 AM
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talking of corsair atx cases... i wonder if you could fit 4 modules, WITH 4 radiators in one of these cases?  seems pretty roomy...

http://www.corsair.com/us/carbide-series-air-540-arctic-white-high-airflow-atx-cube-case.html

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December 17, 2013, 12:29:25 AM
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Hey ice,  you have any contacts at hash fast?  They seem to have gone MIA during the home stretch.

There are million things to take care of during the home stretch.

Adding personnel to the customer support team is one of them.   Tongue

I'm sure they are swamped with orders, inquiries, etc. because of all the BTC hype in general and their spectacular 500GH/sec/chip achievement in particular.
Whats interesting is the long term charts show that BTC is heading way down in price. It will tick up one last time, then comes the nose dive. That is a good thing for those of us holding cash. A bad thing for those holding BTC.

what indicators do you have for making bold predictions like that?  how can you predict 'just one spike' ?  and how do you predict 'heading way down' ?

since you've mentioned both an up, and a down, i presume you won't be wrong, since a volatile asset like btc will always fulfil those indications.
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December 17, 2013, 12:32:32 AM
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I'm unfortunately optimistic for the future of the BTC price. That just means that i won't be able to buy cheap in my case.
Anyway, no updates, funny.

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December 17, 2013, 12:41:34 AM
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Hey ice,  you have any contacts at hash fast?  They seem to have gone MIA during the home stretch.

There are million things to take care of during the home stretch.

Adding personnel to the customer support team is one of them.   Tongue

I'm sure they are swamped with orders, inquiries, etc. because of all the BTC hype in general and their spectacular 500GH/sec/chip achievement in particular.
Whats interesting is the long term charts show that BTC is heading way down in price. It will tick up one last time, then comes the nose dive. That is a good thing for those of us holding cash. A bad thing for those holding BTC.

what indicators do you have for making bold predictions like that?  how can you predict 'just one spike' ?  and how do you predict 'heading way down' ?

since you've mentioned both an up, and a down, i presume you won't be wrong, since a volatile asset like btc will always fulfil those indications.

I won't post any graphs or graphics since I don't want to give away anything helpful. But read your stochastics at different intervals and then compare with MACD indicators at different scales of time.

It is obvious. The whales with the most BTC are waiting for one last rise then comes the big dump as the whales will drop their BTC into the markets (and pick up fiat to hold). People like me are looking to buy up BTC at Sub 400$ prices.

Edit: If you haven't already, I would recommend during the next rise you keep at least 7k to 10k cash on hand to ride out the bottoming out over the next 2 months or so. (daily/monthly expenses etc) (So you don't have to convert BTC at extremely cheap rates)

It will likely go up again, it usually does. Corrections are just the way of the market.


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December 17, 2013, 12:44:30 AM
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Why no tweets in 4 days?? This doesn't look good. I don't see how they can possibly make the deadline. They don't even seem to be working weekends!


I exchanged a couple emails with them yesterday. I don't have any contacts or anything. I was just, you know, nice/polite (while still voicing concerns, etc).


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Why no tweets in 4 days?? This doesn't look good. I don't see how they can possibly make the deadline. They don't even seem to be working weekends!


I exchanged a couple emails with them yesterday. I don't have any contacts or anything. I was just, you know, nice/polite (while still voicing concerns, etc).



And what did they tell you about your concerns?
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talking of corsair atx cases... i wonder if you could fit 4 modules, WITH 4 radiators in one of these cases?  seems pretty roomy...

http://www.corsair.com/us/carbide-series-air-540-arctic-white-high-airflow-atx-cube-case.html

I guess it depends on the radiator size.  The top can mount a 2x120mm or 2x140mm and the front can mount a 2x120mm, 2x140mm or 3x120mm.   You likely couldn't do it with the sealed waterloops that HF is using stock but with standard water cooling parts 5x120mm worth of radiators should be enough for 4 BabyJet boards. 

A lot really depends on the final power consumption.  IMHO despite what cointerra and Hashfast did with their larger rigs if you can't power it with a single power supply you don't really gain a whole lot by making one monster rig as opposed to two smaller rigs.   

I assume most Batch 1 customers also purchased the upgrade so ultimately if HashFast delivers (someday) they are looking at 6 modules total (BabyJet + upgrade + 4 MPP modules).   Probably makes more sense in looking into converting those into two 3 module systems.

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And what did they tell you about your concerns?

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However, per our Terms & Conditions, we are still within the anticipated ship window for our Batch 1 order to ship by December 31, 2013. Our First Batch customers are still going to receive their machines before anyone else and have been given the MPP free of charge.
We promise to continue to keep all our customers up-to-date with the newest information and developments with our products.

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