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Author Topic: HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: 400GH/s  (Read 875472 times)
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December 10, 2013, 03:52:09 PM
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and there ------------>   https://events.bizzabo.com/InsideBitcoinLasVegas/welcome?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_content=3068211
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December 10, 2013, 04:12:12 PM
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There is one other possibility... which I have only just now considered.

My intuition says that they know that the boards more-or-less work and that now, buoyed by knowledge that they won't totally crash and burn in the short term, they are coming late to a 'walk softly and carry a big stick' strategy... impress us by 'underpromising' in the last teeth-gnashing couple of weeks. They are not fully aware that it's past the time to do that because their nose has been so close to it and, well, because their customer relations strategies, well, they have tended to suck.

I think they will ship in time, although I worry that the BJs will be buggy and plagued by problems with all this coming together so late.

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December 10, 2013, 04:14:37 PM
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I think they will ship in time, although I worry that the BJs will be buggy and plagued by problems with all this coming together so late.

Tell KNC batch#1/#2 customers about it.
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December 10, 2013, 04:29:13 PM
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https://twitter.com/alanmeckler/status/394828862133006338
#HashFAST Technologies is exhibiting at http://www.insidebitcoins.com  in LasVegas in December.  #bitcoin #virtualcurrencies $MBIS
(22 of October)

If they are "exhibiting" (sorry, i lack a better term), when is that since that they are not on the list? With BFL at 1pm? This is starting to be stressful...

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December 10, 2013, 04:33:18 PM
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Well if they come out and say it's X GH/s and Y H/j _now_ then if:

(1) these numbers are above their advertised specs, but the final product is still above advertised but not quite as due to cooling, firmware, etc. people will feel cheated. (e.g. do good and they still hate you)

(2) if these numbers are below the advertised specs people who are waiting until the 31st to fund attorneys to commence litigation will start now, and dealing with it will distract them from shipping a product.

About the only gain— from a purely utilitarian perspective— that can come from more details is trying to pull in some more pre-orders.  Though personally I think all of us would love to hear more, I can understand why a conservative approach may win even without any disaster.

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December 10, 2013, 04:36:41 PM
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It is 2 hahes per clock.  Each core is actually a "dual core" capable of 2 nonces per clock.  So cut your speed requirement in half.

96 engines * 2 * 4 = 768 nonces per clock.   400 GH/s = 400,000 MH/s / 768 = 520 Mhz.  Now that assumes 100% yield which is never going to be the case but say 550% with 90% core yield would achieve ~ 400 GH/s.  

Now the radio silence is bad news, what bad news not sure but The chips as designed were designed to operate around 500 Mhz not 1.1 Ghz and processed 2 nonces per core.

I must have missed that.... if they only need to run 500Mhz though, what's all the fuss with the substrate?


Edit: Oh by the way, this IS two SHA2 operations per clock right? Not two SHA operations per clock, which is the norm for SHA2, just wanna be clear.

Yes it is two full SHA256(SHA256()) "Bitcoin hashes" at least according to the protocol doc.  Even at ~500 Mhz (400 GH/s) @ 0.6 J/GH we are talking 300W or if you assume 0.7V nominal 430 amps.  Compare that to the only other high current design, KNC and each board is "only" 180W or 250A.  430A is a lot of power so "only 500 Mhz" is still a power challenge.
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December 10, 2013, 09:21:32 PM
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HashFast Technologies is a fabless semiconductor company specializing in extreme performance hashing ASICs. Our mission is to deliver the absolute best technology for the network verification of Bitcoin. Our products are high-performance ASICs. Our first chip, the Golden Nonce (GN) microprocessor, is in the final stages of development. The GN chip is expected to perform more than 400 Ghash per second. HashFast Technologies was founded in San Francisco in 2013 by Simon Barber and Eduardo de Castro. https://hashfast.com/

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December 10, 2013, 10:11:52 PM
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Is this hash rate spike:
http://blockchain.info/charts/hash-rate related to the latest developments at HashFast?
Or it's all because of another company shipping/testing their hardware?

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December 10, 2013, 10:25:28 PM
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Is this hash rate spike:
http://blockchain.info/charts/hash-rate related to the latest developments at HashFast?
Or it's all because of another company shipping/testing their hardware?

KnC November Batch. If HF would test stuff they would post proof.

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December 10, 2013, 10:41:08 PM
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Bitcoin Difficulty 10/20/2013: 267,731,249
Bitcoin Difficulty Today:    908,350,862

Thank you hashfast.

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December 10, 2013, 10:42:20 PM
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Josh had his talk but no sign of john or their porn-releated colleagues for now.
https://twitter.com/danielcawrey/status/410535423522263040/photo/1

In other words, no breakings from the conference: USD refunds for everyone!

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December 10, 2013, 10:54:29 PM
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Bitcoin Difficulty 10/20/2013: 267,731,249
Bitcoin Difficulty Today:    908,350,862

Thank you hashfast.


right now 2Gh gets about .001 BTC a day.  That's just the next ~10 days.


do they even ship bro?


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December 10, 2013, 11:02:15 PM
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Bitcoin Difficulty 10/20/2013: 267,731,249
Bitcoin Difficulty Today:    908,350,862

Thank you hashfast.


right now 2Gh gets about .001 BTC a day.  That's just the next ~10 days.


do they even ship bro?



No shipping, but we are "protected". Any of you fellow customers feel protected?

A wise guy said this about guarantees(customer protection) once.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEB7WbTTlu4

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December 10, 2013, 11:22:22 PM
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... OK  we are today  11/12/2013 ,  i'm in france  :so..... it's impossible to have a  delivery for 31/12/2013., more: hashfast at still dont tell anything at this time.....


 they are liers.  Angry
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December 10, 2013, 11:25:03 PM
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OK  we are today  11/12/2013 ,  i'm in france  :so..... it's impossible to have a  delivery for 31/12/2013., since hashfast at still dont tell anything at this time.....
No, this is wrong. We will have to wait at least the 25 for this conclusion.

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December 10, 2013, 11:26:50 PM
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OK  we are today  11/12/2013 ,  i'm in france  :so..... it's impossible to have a  delivery for 31/12/2013., since hashfast at still dont tell anything at this time.....
No, this is wrong. We will have to wait at least the 25 for this conclusion.
never seen a 5 days shipping from usa to france , man ...
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December 10, 2013, 11:31:49 PM
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never seen a 5 days shipping from usa to france , man ...
I've paid faster shippings to Italy myself, dear.

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December 10, 2013, 11:38:13 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=270363.0 this is so funny to read now!

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December 11, 2013, 12:07:08 AM
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In other news...

CoinTerra announces one or two week delay

I spoke with "Peter" on the phone last Friday (December 6th) and he said that the first deliveries will be pushed back 7-10 days...so I doubt anyone will receive anything this year.


BitMine.ch announces three week delay

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http://bitmine.ch/?p=4192
CoinCraft Delays in December batch units

    Posted on December 10, 2013
    by Giorgio Massarotto   
    in Coincraft series, News   

Due to a shift in the production of our CoinCraft A1 chip, a three weeks delay affecting December-batch units has just been announced.

Nobody likes to hear about late deliveries, especially in the Bitcoin mining world. While we tried to do everything we could to carefully plan the delivery terms, sometimes delays still happen in places where you have no control of them. This is the case of what happened yesterday, when we had a conference call with the supplier of the chip to follow up with the delivery schedule of the CoinCraft A1 ASIC chips, which were supposed to arrive at Bitmine’s assembly plant this week. Unfortunately, the production of the silicon wafers used by our chips has been delayed by three weeks from the factory, effectively forcing us to delay the December batch orders.


BlackArrow still hasn't taped-out?

Does anyone know if these guys have actually taped out? I find it extremely hard to believe that they will deliver anything in February if they have not taped out yet...

Not yet. They do need to tape out asap if they want to hit a Feb date.


BFL Monarch delayed, yet again

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https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/4414-monarch-information.html#post69562

There's been a bit of a delay at the foundry on our chips and scheduling. The sample chips have been delayed a few weeks (still waiting on an exact date)


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December 11, 2013, 12:10:43 AM
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In other news...

CoinTerra announces one or two week delay

I spoke with "Peter" on the phone last Friday (December 6th) and he said that the first deliveries will be pushed back 7-10 days...so I doubt anyone will receive anything this year.


BitMine.ch announces three week delay

Quote
http://bitmine.ch/?p=4192
CoinCraft Delays in December batch units

    Posted on December 10, 2013
    by Giorgio Massarotto   
    in Coincraft series, News   

Due to a shift in the production of our CoinCraft A1 chip, a three weeks delay affecting December-batch units has just been announced.

Nobody likes to hear about late deliveries, especially in the Bitcoin mining world. While we tried to do everything we could to carefully plan the delivery terms, sometimes delays still happen in places where you have no control of them. This is the case of what happened yesterday, when we had a conference call with the supplier of the chip to follow up with the delivery schedule of the CoinCraft A1 ASIC chips, which were supposed to arrive at Bitmine’s assembly plant this week. Unfortunately, the production of the silicon wafers used by our chips has been delayed by three weeks from the factory, effectively forcing us to delay the December batch orders.


BlackArrow still hasn't taped-out?

Does anyone know if these guys have actually taped out? I find it extremely hard to believe that they will deliver anything in February if they have not taped out yet...

Not yet. They do need to tape out asap if they want to hit a Feb date.


BFL Monarch delayed, yet again

Quote
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/4414-monarch-information.html#post69562

There's been a bit of a delay at the foundry on our chips and scheduling. The sample chips have been delayed a few weeks (still waiting on an exact date)

Yeah, and Hashfast... Does not even have the balls to give a "2 weeks".  Grin

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