HashFast announces specs for new ASIC: 400GH/s

[cedivad]

Again, as usual HF do not care about nothing more that the money they got in their pocket

I don't get it. What they think they are doing? This is like shooting in your foot. It doesen't make sense, even if you are a scammer you try to provide a minimum level of support to your customers.

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[iCEBREAKER]

ALWAYS BET ON iCE...

Since you like to bet, how about accepting mine?

I have 5 BTC that says HashFast will not ship a working miner containing Golden Nonce chips to even one customer in 2013.  (It has to be physical delivery.  Hosting doesn't count.)

Care to put up 5 BTC of your own against that?

Sounds good to me.  I presume you're OK with using John K for escrow.

Care to make it 10 BTC?  

ALWAYS BET ON iCE...

[weeks of crickets]
[*chirp* *chirp* *chirp*]

Well Bogart, do we have a bet or not?

Are you going to man up and put your Bitcoin where your mouth is, or run away like a scared little pony?

[moar days pass]
[moar crickets chirp]

   I guess Bogart no longer wishes to put his money where his mouth is.   

[klondike_bar]

Now can you please provide data for the maximum 24/7 safe current per 18AWG wire.
My own research led me to believe it is much lower than 9A.

Useful table here

http://www.powerstream.com/Wire_Size.htm

using "The Maximum Amps for Chassis Wiring is also a conservative rating, but is meant for wiring in air, and not in a bundle."

AWG 18 is okay up to 16A  (~<200W @ 12V)

I highly doubt that you can run 550W through the PCI-E cable without any consequences.
One of my PSUs (Cooler Master V850) is powering an October Jupiter and each module is being fed by a different PCI-E cable and still they get noticeably hot (around 44 degrees max).
Or try to connect 2 modules per PCI-E cable and it gets even hotter, yet the current per strand is only around 8-9A.

I use the 2x4pin ATX plug wires to run ~500W for an overclocked antminer

[Visesrion]

Now they refuse to change the Babyjet case for a sierra one. Still thinking who was the smart guy who though  " lets put the boards into an oem atx case so the can't have them hosted into the datacenters and then we change them for future batches ". Then cannot even change a 50$ metal case after been 2 months delayed.

Now I have to change the hosting again when they claimed to be offering hosting in a week time, back in October as the pcbs...Really good job HF  

[CYPER]

Now can you please provide data for the maximum 24/7 safe current per 18AWG wire.
My own research led me to believe it is much lower than 9A.

Useful table here

http://www.powerstream.com/Wire_Size.htm

using "The Maximum Amps for Chassis Wiring is also a conservative rating, but is meant for wiring in air, and not in a bundle."

AWG 18 is okay up to 16A  (~<200W @ 12V)

I highly doubt that you can run 550W through the PCI-E cable without any consequences.
One of my PSUs (Cooler Master V850) is powering an October Jupiter and each module is being fed by a different PCI-E cable and still they get noticeably hot (around 44 degrees max).
Or try to connect 2 modules per PCI-E cable and it gets even hotter, yet the current per strand is only around 8-9A.

I use the 2x4pin ATX plug wires to run ~500W for an overclocked antminer

What AWG are the cables? What voltage?

[iCEBREAKER]

Now they refuse to change the Babyjet case for a sierra one. Still thinking who was the smart guy who though  " lets put the boards into an oem atx case so the can't have them hosted into the datacenters and then we change them for future batches ". Then cannot even change a 50$ metal case after been 2 months delayed.

Now I have to change the hosting again when they claimed to be offering hosting in a week time, back in October as the pcbs...Really good job HF  

You ordered a Baby Jet, knowing full well it comes in an ATX desktop case.

You paid for a Baby Jet, knowing full well it comes in an ATX desktop case.

HashFast already got an expensive Corsair ATX desktop case for your Baby Jet.

If you wanted a rackmount Sierra, you should have ordered a rackmount Sierra instead of a Baby Jet in an ATX desktop case.

[jspielberg]

Hey ice,  you have any contacts at hash fast?  They seem to have gone MIA during the home stretch.

[iCEBREAKER]

Hey ice,  you have any contacts at hash fast?  They seem to have gone MIA during the home stretch.

There are million things to take care of during the home stretch.

Adding personnel to the customer support team is one of them.   

I'm sure they are swamped with orders, inquiries, etc. because of all the BTC hype in general and their spectacular 500GH/sec/chip achievement in particular.

[PuertoLibre]

Hey ice,  you have any contacts at hash fast?  They seem to have gone MIA during the home stretch.

There are million things to take care of during the home stretch.

Adding personnel to the customer support team is one of them.   

I'm sure they are swamped with orders, inquiries, etc. because of all the BTC hype in general and their spectacular 500GH/sec/chip achievement in particular.

Whats interesting is the long term charts show that BTC is heading way down in price. It will tick up one last time, then comes the nose dive. That is a good thing for those of us holding cash. A bad thing for those holding BTC.

[aerobatic]

talking of corsair atx cases... i wonder if you could fit 4 modules, WITH 4 radiators in one of these cases?  seems pretty roomy...

http://www.corsair.com/us/carbide-series-air-540-arctic-white-high-airflow-atx-cube-case.html

[aerobatic]

Hey ice,  you have any contacts at hash fast?  They seem to have gone MIA during the home stretch.

There are million things to take care of during the home stretch.

Adding personnel to the customer support team is one of them.   

I'm sure they are swamped with orders, inquiries, etc. because of all the BTC hype in general and their spectacular 500GH/sec/chip achievement in particular.

Whats interesting is the long term charts show that BTC is heading way down in price. It will tick up one last time, then comes the nose dive. That is a good thing for those of us holding cash. A bad thing for those holding BTC.

what indicators do you have for making bold predictions like that?  how can you predict 'just one spike' ?  and how do you predict 'heading way down' ?

since you've mentioned both an up, and a down, i presume you won't be wrong, since a volatile asset like btc will always fulfil those indications.

[cedivad]

I'm unfortunately optimistic for the future of the BTC price. That just means that i won't be able to buy cheap in my case.
Anyway, no updates, funny.

[PuertoLibre]

Hey ice,  you have any contacts at hash fast?  They seem to have gone MIA during the home stretch.

There are million things to take care of during the home stretch.

Adding personnel to the customer support team is one of them.  

I'm sure they are swamped with orders, inquiries, etc. because of all the BTC hype in general and their spectacular 500GH/sec/chip achievement in particular.

Whats interesting is the long term charts show that BTC is heading way down in price. It will tick up one last time, then comes the nose dive. That is a good thing for those of us holding cash. A bad thing for those holding BTC.

what indicators do you have for making bold predictions like that?  how can you predict 'just one spike' ?  and how do you predict 'heading way down' ?

since you've mentioned both an up, and a down, i presume you won't be wrong, since a volatile asset like btc will always fulfil those indications.

I won't post any graphs or graphics since I don't want to give away anything helpful. But read your stochastics at different intervals and then compare with MACD indicators at different scales of time.

It is obvious. The whales with the most BTC are waiting for one last rise then comes the big dump as the whales will drop their BTC into the markets (and pick up fiat to hold). People like me are looking to buy up BTC at Sub 400$ prices.

Edit: If you haven't already, I would recommend during the next rise you keep at least 7k to 10k cash on hand to ride out the bottoming out over the next 2 months or so. (daily/monthly expenses etc) (So you don't have to convert BTC at extremely cheap rates)

It will likely go up again, it usually does. Corrections are just the way of the market.

[Melbustus]

Why no tweets in 4 days?? This doesn't look good. I don't see how they can possibly make the deadline. They don't even seem to be working weekends!

I exchanged a couple emails with them yesterday. I don't have any contacts or anything. I was just, you know, nice/polite (while still voicing concerns, etc).

[ImI]

Why no tweets in 4 days?? This doesn't look good. I don't see how they can possibly make the deadline. They don't even seem to be working weekends!

I exchanged a couple emails with them yesterday. I don't have any contacts or anything. I was just, you know, nice/polite (while still voicing concerns, etc).

And what did they tell you about your concerns?

[DeathAndTaxes]

talking of corsair atx cases... i wonder if you could fit 4 modules, WITH 4 radiators in one of these cases?  seems pretty roomy...

http://www.corsair.com/us/carbide-series-air-540-arctic-white-high-airflow-atx-cube-case.html

I guess it depends on the radiator size.  The top can mount a 2x120mm or 2x140mm and the front can mount a 2x120mm, 2x140mm or 3x120mm.   You likely couldn't do it with the sealed waterloops that HF is using stock but with standard water cooling parts 5x120mm worth of radiators should be enough for 4 BabyJet boards. 

A lot really depends on the final power consumption.  IMHO despite what cointerra and Hashfast did with their larger rigs if you can't power it with a single power supply you don't really gain a whole lot by making one monster rig as opposed to two smaller rigs.   

I assume most Batch 1 customers also purchased the upgrade so ultimately if HashFast delivers (someday) they are looking at 6 modules total (BabyJet + upgrade + 4 MPP modules).   Probably makes more sense in looking into converting those into two 3 module systems.

[cedivad]

And what did they tell you about your concerns?

We understand and appreciate your concerns.
However, per our Terms & Conditions, we are still within the anticipated ship window for our Batch 1 order to ship by December 31, 2013. Our First Batch customers are still going to receive their machines before anyone else and have been given the MPP free of charge.
We promise to continue to keep all our customers up-to-date with the newest information and developments with our products.

[cedivad]

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1k0adc/hash_fast_baby_jet_miner_400_ghsec/cbk38ez

[Hoofprint]

talking of corsair atx cases... i wonder if you could fit 4 modules, WITH 4 radiators in one of these cases?  seems pretty roomy...

http://www.corsair.com/us/carbide-series-air-540-arctic-white-high-airflow-atx-cube-case.html

I guess it depends on the radiator size.  The top can mount a 2x120mm or 2x140mm and the front can mount a 2x120mm, 2x140mm or 3x120mm.   You likely couldn't do it with the sealed waterloops that HF is using stock but with standard water cooling parts 5x120mm worth of radiators should be enough for 4 BabyJet boards. 

A lot really depends on the final power consumption.  IMHO despite what cointerra and Hashfast did with their larger rigs if you can't power it with a single power supply you don't really gain a whole lot by making one monster rig as opposed to two smaller rigs.   

I assume most Batch 1 customers also purchased the upgrade so ultimately if HashFast delivers (someday) they are looking at 6 modules total (BabyJet + upgrade + 4 MPP modules).   Probably makes more sense in looking into converting those into two 3 module systems.

depends on how thick the rads are 60mm thick is about the standard + 25mm for a fan x2 for push pull.
I use a NZXT switch 810 for my main rig, MPP chips will probably go in one as well it can fit 360mm (3x120) 60mm thick rad in the top and a 240 (2x120) 60mm thick in the bottom both with push pull

[Visesrion]

Now they refuse to change the Babyjet case for a sierra one. Still thinking who was the smart guy who though  " lets put the boards into an oem atx case so the can't have them hosted into the datacenters and then we change them for future batches ". Then cannot even change a 50$ metal case after been 2 months delayed.

Now I have to change the hosting again when they claimed to be offering hosting in a week time, back in October as the pcbs...Really good job HF  

You ordered a Baby Jet, knowing full well it comes in an ATX desktop case.

You paid for a Baby Jet, knowing full well it comes in an ATX desktop case.

HashFast already got an expensive Corsair ATX desktop case for your Baby Jet.

If you wanted a rackmount Sierra, you should have ordered a rackmount Sierra instead of a Baby Jet in an ATX desktop case.

I ordered that because there was nothing else.

I paid for that, as there was nothing else.

Then a smart guy like you from HF decided to offer a x3 hashing power machine in rack mount at almost the same price. Brilliant !

HF refused to change the BJs into sierras from the first day (even paying the 300-400$ difference)

HF said that there is no need to worry as there will be a month gap between those products and then you also have the  MPP.

HF is 1 month late

HF claims to have a 500Gh/s chip and after 15 days of testing still haven't see a proof of that and then we also have the worst video ever made assenbling some capaciitors ( or trying ) on a pcb

HF is almost 2 months late

BJs and sierras will be almost shipped together and we are all screwed, but specially the ones with the BJs

And you do not say nothing about what they promised back in October ?

Nothing more to say, welcome to my ignore list again