Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s

[nexus99]

I need my X-1's to show up...

[Unacceptable]

Wow,with the diff rising so fast,my 20mh of scrypt ASIC's will make more than 1TH of BTC miners    & use WAY less power!!!!!!!!

Good luck guys,looks like you'll need it!!! 

[OgNasty]

X-3 doesn't exist? Since the backplane issue has been fixed I would consider it to exist.

That's great.  Did you get a power reading from the wall?

[SirWizz]

Black Arrow's slogan: "We do not aim to make any profit"

How did I miss this? In the very first post no less. 

Maybe (in light of recent delays) they should change it to "we do not aim to have our customers make any profit" .

[CryptoGuy]

Ba is... "A nonprofit organization dedicated to ensuring their customers also comply with the nonprofit principle."

[sorehammer]

But they have to compensate us, some have already paid for psu's that would be of no use and then they would have to refund from a pot they say is empty.

[SirWizz]

But they have to compensate us, some have already paid for psu's that would be of no use and then they would have to refund from a pot they say is empty.

They will, eventually... maybe? Really can't be sure because they have lied so many times I don't believe anything they say anymore, lost whatever little trust I had in them to begin with. Even if they do so, say 6 months from now on - whatever the level of compensation offered, it is unlikely it will be of much value to us at that time.

[Majixagi]

They only have two options, provide compensation for existing pre-orders that makes up for this difference in value, or punitively blacklist existing customers for refund requests.

This is it exactly. Based on the way they are already treating customers, the evidence is very strongly in the anti-consumer camp. They've already talked about banning people who request refunds or complain about them. At this point people should be lucky if they ever receive a product that vaguely resembles what they initially purchased. I'll be shocked if anyone except insiders receive any sort of valuable compensation for this. T-shirts don't count.

[sorehammer]

well almost Monday so MS should have the first delivery and the we only have to worry about compo

[bobsag3]

well almost Monday so MS should have the first delivery and the we only have to worry about compo

Packages are in CO as of this morning, so should deliver tomorrow.

[sorehammer]

Oh yeah is it Monday yet damn still Sunday

[Pistachio]

X-3 doesn't exist? Since the backplane issue has been fixed I would consider it to exist.

A 5-hashing board prototype exists.

The X-3 is a specific retail product that you have not shipped yet, therefore it does not exist.

Now instead of being snarky and chiming in like a troll, go and get customers' questions answered.

+1

time for a refund  .

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[MoneyMuscles]

Has anyone found an efficient way of getting refunded at a more immediate pace. Im getting tired of waiting and getting a refund after shipping as they offer now is just unacceptable. Has anyone outside of China been refunded recently?

[Pistachio]

Has anyone found an efficient way of getting refunded at a more immediate pace. Im getting tired of waiting and getting a refund after shipping as they offer now is just unacceptable. Has anyone outside of China been refunded recently?

You need to file a report at http://www.ic3.gov/complaint/default.aspx and hopefully enough people file as well to create a case for the DOJ/FBI. Otherwise, I don't think so.

Edit: the link above also applies to orders placed at Minersource.net.

[nexus99]

I'm in CO so I should be able to confirm X-1 in the wild as soon as they are available. I've got some batch 1 and batch 2 on order with MS.

[MoneyMuscles]

Has anyone found an efficient way of getting refunded at a more immediate pace. Im getting tired of waiting and getting a refund after shipping as they offer now is just unacceptable. Has anyone outside of China been refunded recently?

You need to file a report at http://www.ic3.gov/complaint/default.aspx and hopefully enough people file as well to create a case for the DOJ/FBI. Otherwise, I don't think so.

Is this an American only thing or international?

[sorehammer]

nexus99 look forward to that.

[Pistachio]

Has anyone found an efficient way of getting refunded at a more immediate pace. Im getting tired of waiting and getting a refund after shipping as they offer now is just unacceptable. Has anyone outside of China been refunded recently?

You need to file a report at http://www.ic3.gov/complaint/default.aspx and hopefully enough people file as well to create a case for the DOJ/FBI. Otherwise, I don't think so.

Is this an American only thing or international?

Unfortunately, only for minersuorce orders or if you are in the US.

See,

"Q: Can I file a complaint if I have been victimized by an individual or company in the United States, but I am not a citizen of the United States?

    If one of the two parties involved is located within the United States, please feel free to file a complaint."

[fivejonnyfive]

Has anyone found an efficient way of getting refunded at a more immediate pace. Im getting tired of waiting and getting a refund after shipping as they offer now is just unacceptable. Has anyone outside of China been refunded recently?

You need to file a report at http://www.ic3.gov/complaint/default.aspx and hopefully enough people file as well to create a case for the DOJ/FBI. Otherwise, I don't think so.

Is this an American only thing or international?

Unfortunately, only for minersuorce orders or if you are in the US.

See,

"Q: Can I file a complaint if I have been victimized by an individual or company in the United States, but I am not a citizen of the United States?

    If one of the two parties involved is located within the United States, please feel free to file a complaint."

If only I could file a complaint against you for wasting taxpayer resources with such a frivolous complaint. I know you said you ignored me, but for the benefit of everyone else.

1) you were offered a refund of the exact amount of dollars you paid.

2) you were offered to have the power supply shipped to you if you paid shipping.

3) You ordered a product that only said free shipping for customers who ordered an X1 or X3 through minersource, and when you were told you had to pay free shipping you threw a temper-tantrum and contacted the FBI and the FTC.

If that's the attitude you have - good luck with life, man. The hallmark of adulthood is taking responsibility for one's own decisions, and you seem to have failed to achieve that.

By the way, filing a false report to a federal agency, pursuant to title 31 of the United States Code, is punishable by a $10,000 fine. Here's hoping the system works.

[sorehammer]

Has anyone found an efficient way of getting refunded at a more immediate pace. Im getting tired of waiting and getting a refund after shipping as they offer now is just unacceptable. Has anyone outside of China been refunded recently?

You need to file a report at http://www.ic3.gov/complaint/default.aspx and hopefully enough people file as well to create a case for the DOJ/FBI. Otherwise, I don't think so.

Is this an American only thing or international?

Unfortunately, only for minersuorce orders or if you are in the US.

See,

"Q: Can I file a complaint if I have been victimized by an individual or company in the United States, but I am not a citizen of the United States?

    If one of the two parties involved is located within the United States, please feel free to file a complaint."

If only I could file a complaint against you for wasting taxpayer resources with such a frivolous complaint. I know you said you ignored me, but for the benefit of everyone else.

1) you were offered a refund of the exact amount of dollars you paid.

2) you were offered to have the power supply shipped to you if you paid shipping.

3) You ordered a product that only said free shipping for customers who ordered an X1 or X3 through minersource, and when you were told you had to pay free shipping you threw a temper-tantrum and contacted the FBI and the FTC.

If that's the attitude you have - good luck with life, man. The hallmark of adulthood is taking responsibility for one's own decisions, and you seem to have failed to achieve that.

By the way, filing a false report to a federal agency, pursuant to title 31 of the United States Code, is punishable by a $10,000 fine. Here's hoping the system works.