Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s

[Dot99lr]

I don't think he's demanding his miner, he just wants to know, based on what Bobsag said, when he can expect it. Bobsag said the shipment from BA should have left yesterday or today and that shipment should contain the rest of batch 1 and maybe batch 2. Now he's saying that all orders should be fulfilled in next two weeks. So he must have gotten new info from BA to change his estimation. Based on that info, he should know the approximate time of delivery for late batch 1 orders.

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[fivejonnyfive]

Wait, bobsag, weeks? Over the next few weeks? I thought you'd said all batch one orders would be sent out a few days after you got your shipment. I don't mean to be snippy or anything but I just want to know where my expectation should be.

Bottom line - my order no is between 1250 and 1300, batch 1. When should I expect shipment. Please and thank you.

Dude, im order number #12x .. Should you get your order before me just because you bought from MS ?

The details of your order are between you and BA. The details of mine are between me and MS. I think everyone should get their orders in the sequence in which they were ordered...

I was only asking what my expectations should be.

[sorehammer]

I don't think he's demanding his miner, he just wants to know, based on what Bobsag said, when he can expect it. Bobsag said the shipment from BA should have left yesterday or today and that shipment should contain the rest of batch 1 and maybe batch 2. Now he's saying that all orders should be fulfilled in next two weeks. So he must have gotten new info from BA to change his estimation. Based on that info, he should know the approximate time of delivery for late batch 1 orders.

they said that about the first one which didn't leave till Thursday or Friday

[nexus99]

Our first units have been confirmed via Tracking to have left Black Arrow, ETA is Friday/Saturday/Monday depending on the UPS Express timing. Our next shipment is to leave BA Monday/Tuesday, that should comprise of the rest of Batch One, and almost all if not all of Batch 2 and 3. More information to follow.

None of these units have LCDs, I was informed they would be ready after the shipment next week.

How did we go from this to this:

This is a Facebook post from today

"Minersource.net We did not ship any units yesturday, only a few local pickups. First units will be shipped to customers today, continuing for the next 2 weeks or till everyone has their unit.
Like · 1 · 2 hours ago"

Seems like the majority will not receive X-1's until at least 1 more difficulty change.

Those don't sound mutually exclusive.
MS got their first shipment Monday the 23rd. It sounds like BA was shipping out another big wad of boxes leaving their facility in China also on the 23rd.

So MS gets the first shipment sometime Monday afternoon and starts processing inventory. It sounds like they have been in full force shipping mode getting stuff out the door today. I wonder how much inventory they got? So that will take however long it takes to ship. At some point they will run out and then start shipping the next wad of boxes that will arrive in a week maybe(I'm not sure of the shipping time from there to the US.)

BA being so late isn't reasonable but these shipping timetables seem realistic. I have a bunch of batch 2 X-1s that I wish would hurry up :-(

[sorehammer]

but where are the pictures of the shipping crates they are so fond of showing when they get a delivery eh

[Majixagi]

Well I know that some have been ordered before minersource was a reseller and those have not been delivered yet. I suspect they haven't been shipped yet. If X-1 starts showing up at microcenter or "in stock" at minersource I'm going to be seriously disturbed.

[dogjunior]

I can't wait for the Friday update. Hope there is news about shipping X-3. They are way late especially after they talked about being on schedule or ahead of schedule.

[tempestb]

I can't wait for the Friday update. Hope there is news about shipping X-3. They are way late especially after they talked about being on schedule or ahead of schedule.

Forget it.  Do yourself a favor and expect the Thursday update (That is now the Friday update) to say that they are waiting on the manufacturer of the backplanes and expect to receive them late next week with shipping to begin the following week.

[bobsag3]

Power consumption numbers:

1200Mhz - 120-130gh - ~115-120w on my killawatt
1100Mhz - 112 - 118GH - ~107W
1000Mhz - 98 - 109GH - 98W

Have not tested 800 yet.

[fivejonnyfive]

Power consumption numbers:

1200Mhz - 120-130gh - ~115-120w on my killawatt
1100Mhz - 112 - 118GH - ~107W
1000Mhz - 98 - 109GH - 98W

Have not tested 800 yet.

Under 1w/gh. Not bad. Not bad at all!

[Syke]

Under 1w/gh. Not bad. Not bad at all!

Actually, it's quite horrible. It's not even close to what was promised.

Prospero X-1 will scan 100Ghash while using less than 55 Watts and Prospero X-3 will be able to scan an outstanding 2000Ghash while using less than 1050 Watt.

[david105396]

Under 1w/gh. Not bad. Not bad at all!

Actually, it's quite horrible. It's not even close to what was promised.

Prospero X-1 will scan 100Ghash while using less than 55 Watts and Prospero X-3 will be able to scan an outstanding 2000Ghash while using less than 1050 Watt.

That was our first design before the delay. This design was expected at 0.75Watt/Ghash. The chip can still be fine tuned to get a better efficiency.

[drewage]

Under 1w/gh. Not bad. Not bad at all!

Actually, it's quite horrible. It's not even close to what was promised.

Prospero X-1 will scan 100Ghash while using less than 55 Watts and Prospero X-3 will be able to scan an outstanding 2000Ghash while using less than 1050 Watt.

Not trying to stoke the fire, I'm genuinely curious, but are there any machines that are currently available that are using .55 W/Ghash?

[ernie-]

Not trying to stoke the fire, I'm genuinely curious, but are there any machines that are currently available that are using .55 W/Ghash?

The ASICminer BE200 40nm chip is 0.35J/GHash at rated voltage. Though as usual people will over clock them straight away thinking more is better.

Here is a neat little video of BE200 immersion testing.

http://vimeo.com/98321051

[drewage]

Not trying to stoke the fire, I'm genuinely curious, but are there any machines that are currently available that are using .55 W/Ghash?

The ASICminer 40nm chip is 0.35J/GHash at rated voltage.

Not to be obtuse but what machines use the AM 40nm chip?

[bobsag3]

Not trying to stoke the fire, I'm genuinely curious, but are there any machines that are currently available that are using .55 W/Ghash?

The ASICminer BE200 40nm chip is 0.35J/GHash at rated voltage. Though as usual people will over clock them straight away thinking more is better.

Speaking as someone who has their products in hand, no they dont. They get effective about 1.1-1.2w/gh.

[coolmusic]

Power consumption numbers:

1200Mhz - 120-130gh - ~115-120w on my killawatt
1100Mhz - 112 - 118GH - ~107W
1000Mhz - 98 - 109GH - 98W

Have not tested 800 yet.

Under 1w/gh. Not bad. Not bad at all!

under 1w/gh AT THE WALL (not at chip level) is pretty awesome

[Unacceptable]

Power consumption numbers:

1200Mhz - 120-130gh - ~115-120w on my killawatt
1100Mhz - 112 - 118GH - ~107W
1000Mhz - 98 - 109GH - 98W

Have not tested 800 yet.

Under 1w/gh. Not bad. Not bad at all!

under 1w/gh AT THE WALL (not at chip level) is pretty awesome

.90 watts per GH,not bad.....just not what they were shooting for  

I don't think anyone cept Bitfury came close to predicted specs..............Even ole Friedcat missed by quite abit!!!!! On the second round 

[bobsag3]

Power consumption numbers:

1200Mhz - 120-130gh - ~115-120w on my killawatt
1100Mhz - 112 - 118GH - ~107W
1000Mhz - 98 - 109GH - 98W

Have not tested 800 yet.

Under 1w/gh. Not bad. Not bad at all!

under 1w/gh AT THE WALL (not at chip level) is pretty awesome

.90 watts per GH,not bad.....just not what they were shooting for  

I don't think anyone cept Bitfury came close to predicted specs..............Even ole Friedcat missed by quite abit!!!!! On the second round 

The chip is considerably more efficient in the X3, the X1 has ~15-20w in overhead of the LCD+ controller, where as each X1 has 20w of overhead per 1th.

[Dot99lr]

Anybody get a shipping confirmation from MS? Anybody?

Bobsag, how many went out or are going out today? Any pictures of the delivery? Hope we're not waiting for the power cords before you ship them. Any idea of future shipments? So many questions...

Any news?