[ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated]

[Stuartuk]

Full scale production?
Did Ken tell you something? Have you seen the chips? Have you seen the assembly facility?
What evidence do you have that "we" are close to full scale production?

The big difference this time is that we've never been as close to full scale production as we are right now and each time there's a further development, share price gets a boost.

Lorenzo I can't sit idly by any longer while you repeatedly cast doubt on regulars here and the companies situation.

You have not been here for the past 2months so you really don't seem to know what you are talking about. Maybe you could be a bit more humble rather than coming on here, making a big entrance and proceeding to criticise people when they state the obvious based on the facts we know.

Have you even read the latest Official News release? We have already shipped miners to customers. Do you know the time scales involved between sample chips being supplied and full batch production? And do you know when we received the sample chips?

TBH your posts seem to me to be more concerned with you creating the impression of your own greatness rather than you enquiring into things.

[JoTheKhan]

I can argue for hours on why it's crazy to sell below .001.  I can argue this until I'm blue in the face.  And I believe most of us will be holding tight, however the problem is there are no buyers.  This isn't the BTCT days any longer.  Bitfunder has lost everyones trust.  The only reason why we had such good share prices on BTCT was because everyone was piggy backing off the popularity of ASICMINER.  That was 99% of BTCT and BF volume and a lot of the cash poured out onto us.  

As you can see from the 1BTC worth of bids lined up, there are no buyers.  

The only thing that makes sense from this point is to just hold on and hope for some dividends.. cause no one is gonna buy into a company that doesn't have a product yet.

Fortunately Crypto-Trade is also an exchange so people will have BTC on their already, might see some new faces get involved.

Yes but do we expect people to go out of their way to put trust into Cryptotrade (Which they don't have to unless they already have AcTm shares) and buy shares in a company that is so tight lipped? I have to agree with VE on this one. It's also why I thought it was so pointless Ken kept updating us on our exchange situation but never on our mining situation for the last month.

There is a chance shares will drop to Below .001 (If they do I can let you guys know I will be buying some) and there is a chance albeit a slimmer one that prices will rise to above .005 which if they do I will be holding until a price drop to buy more or for the price to hit .01 so I can pull out my initial investment.

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As you can see from the 1BTC worth of bids lined up, there are no buyers.  
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Speak for yourself -- i'm bidding in incognito-stealth mode, a premium account option on CriptoTrade. In incognito-stealth mode, no one can see my bids.  Not even the sellers

[JoTheKhan]

Just ignore Lorenzo, he is doing the opposite of what he has implied earlier. He wants to sell shares, but he is making the company look bad. That doesn't add up. The only logical conclusion is he wants the shares to be as cheap as possible. Why did he start so recently with the depression? (He will say because the announcement was so vague. The answer is because the announcement contained information that we will soon be on an exchange. He read the announcement, noticed we have sample chips, noticed Ken is optimistic about our future and noticed that shares will probably go up sooner or later. Might as well get them now.)

This is not a charity, you guys don't have to look out for other investors when it comes to price manipulation. If you see it, just take advantage of it. As long as someone isn't scamming other investors openly then I don't think we should worry about people trying to spread FUD to manipulate price. Just sit back and take advantage of it, there's more to gain in it and most of you guys rub me as being the greedy type.

[Stuartuk]

however the problem is there are no buyers.  

You are talking about what will become one of the biggest ASIC BTC mining chip sellers in the world, one of the biggest home/pro miner sellers and one of the biggest mining farm operators. We are on the radar of serious investors - I can't imagine us not being.

Aside from that you have the Trolls on here who might want 2 or 300k between them - price dependant.

And what about the ex-Advisory Board members, didn't they sell a couple of mill shares between them? They will certainly want them back.

You won't get buyers filling up the order book it would create a frenzy and push prices higher. Instead they will jump in very quickly when the exchange opens.

The situation is unique, excellent news, frozen trading re-opening, demand from new big investors and previous holders. There will be a LOT of buying pressure.

[zumzero]

We should not underestimate the numbers of new bitcoiners and their appetites.

[SoylentCreek]

Full scale production?
Did Ken tell you something? Have you seen the chips? Have you seen the assembly facility?
What evidence do you have that "we" are close to full scale production?

The big difference this time is that we've never been as close to full scale production as we are right now and each time there's a further development, share price gets a boost.

Lorenzo I can't sit idly by any longer while you repeatedly cast doubt on regulars here and the companies situation.

How long have you actually been on the internet? You are not going to stand by and listen to LorenzoMoney? Yes... That is exactly what you will do. That is how a forum works. This is not a board filled with rainbows, kittens and lollipops. We're all people, living in the real world, with real money at risk. Some people are going to ask questions. Some are going to be dicks, and others will be full on trolls. That is how the internet works. I am going to write you a prescription to 4chan.org so you can experience what assholes people really are. Point is, chill out with the pompous theatrics.

[knybe]

currently: BUY ORDERS (Total BTC : 11.53 )

[coinfresh]

We're all people, living in the real world, with real money at risk. Some people are going to ask questions. Some are going to be dicks, and others will be full on trolls. That is how the internet works. I am going to write you a prescription to 4chan.org so you can experience what assholes people really are. Point is, chill out with the pompous theatrics.

Bravo, great post. Quoted for truth.

[Stuartuk]

Lorenzo I can't sit idly by any longer while you repeatedly cast doubt on regulars here and the companies situation.

You are not going to stand by and listen to LorenzoMoney? Yes... That is exactly what you will do.

Wow I have clearly really upset you. I was polite and even apologised but you carry a grudge a long time?

Read my post again, you seem to have trouble reading and comprehending a very simple sentence - I can't sit idly by...

By 'idly' we mean 'doing nothing'. That's what I was doing, but now I have decided to interrupt his attacks on zumzero and his nonsense on the company and call him to account. So I am no longer sitting idly by - I am acting. Do you understand now?  

[zumzero]

currently: BUY ORDERS (Total BTC : 11.53 )

I'm digging the buy order for 0.012! SELL SELL SELL!

[snowdropfore]

someone put and bid order at 0.012...what is going on??is he just playing around??

[SoylentCreek]

Lorenzo I can't sit idly by any longer while you repeatedly cast doubt on regulars here and the companies situation.

You are not going to stand by and listen to LorenzoMoney? Yes... That is exactly what you will do.

Wow I have clearly really upset you. I was polite and even apologised but you carry a grudge a long time?

Read my post again, you seem to have trouble reading and comprehending a very simple sentence - I can't sit idly by...

By 'idly' we mean 'doing nothing'. That's what I was doing, but now I have decided to interrupt his attacks on zumzero and his nonsense on the company and call him to account. So I am no longer sitting idly by - I am acting. Do you understand now?  

You've not upset me at all. I just find all of your post incredibly lame. I'm talking "Share this post to help fund the cure for Aids" on Facebook lame. I mean... Can you just try to stop being lame? Do it for the children!

[Stuartuk]

someone put and bid order at 0.012...what is going on??is he just playing around??

Seems reasonable to me. In a few weeks time that will be a bargain price.

Personally I'm holding for the divs but may liquidate 10% at anything over 0.03

[Stuartuk]

You've not upset me at all. I just find all of your post incredibly lame.

Oh don't, you are going to upset me now. How horrendous it would be to be considered 'lame'. Like an injured horse you mean? Or a hobbling duck maybe?

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^^Like that.

[granitemouse]

someone put and bid order at 0.012...what is going on??is he just playing around??

Compared to all of the other orders, I think that person left out a 0. A lot of people probably are watching, waiting to fill that one.

[SoylentCreek]

You've not upset me at all. I just find all of your post incredibly lame.

Oh don't, you are going to upset me now. How horrendous it would be to be considered 'lame'. Like an injured horse you mean? Or a hobbling duck maybe?

As someone who just had to put down both their pet horse and pet duck on account of them being stricken with lameness, I am under the impression that you may have had something to do with that you son of a bitch. There's a dark place in hell for monsters like you. 

[VolanicEruptor]

^^ that is pretty much the logic they have all been using ... we want cheap shares and we're just "acting" like we don't like the way things are going 

[VolanicEruptor]

can we all agree that the avalon refund would be best invested towards an order of chips?  Otherwise it will only pay us .00006/share if he pays us right out.. at least then we can get an actualy mining farm going without waiting for money from sales.  Who agrees?