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Author Topic: [DEAD] DeepBit.net PPS+Prop,instant payouts, we pay for INVALID BLOCKS too  (Read 1562569 times)
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September 24, 2013, 08:07:36 AM
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See that's the problem it DOES reach my bitcoind. So maybe my bitcoind is a first degree node to deepbit then, what are the odds? The fee system is so obscure. I never paid any fee ever, but if there is a no-fee thing, then wouldn't all my non fee transactions be stuck too?

Does the bitcoind add a fee always, without me knowing it. It can't right? Then either the sum left on my account would be lower or the recipient would get less than I send.



Fees are applied on a variety of criteria, including transaction size (in bytes), extremely small outputs (dust), and using inputs which have not had enough confirmations (anti-spam).  If it is reaching you're bitcoind, that part is a little more confusing.  I know blockchain.info will eventually "forget" a transaction if it hasn't been confirmed after a certain length of time.

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September 24, 2013, 08:51:50 AM
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Ok, I think we need to dust off the fee system so that everyone can see it. Can you point me to the source for the fee logic or is it spread out over multiple places? I can't read C++ code with global variables that I don't know where they are, it's like php to me! Wink

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September 24, 2013, 09:07:46 AM
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Ok, I think we need to dust off the fee system so that everyone can see it. Can you point me to the source for the fee logic or is it spread out over multiple places? I can't read C++ code with global variables that I don't know where they are, it's like php to me! Wink
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_fees
the Bitcoin wiki is full of useful info Smiley

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September 26, 2013, 09:14:35 AM
Last edit: September 26, 2013, 06:35:55 PM by rupy
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Ok, so my transaction is still unconfirmed after last nights block.

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September 26, 2013, 06:52:48 PM
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I have payment that have not been paid since 9/23/2013.

Please check on it.

https://blockexplorer.com/tx/ceb71bb71e87f8cdf9fa3791e3c581c865a5bf777b0d807d34c80edb65da7005 (it shows invalid payment.)


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However I just sent another payment to my self for 0.01 it sends out to my wallet instantly

https://blockexplorer.com/tx/1289dc85c635fc4b319a126bdf7c1d65770efcb7652558fa3abee7b152c734a7 (it shows invalid payment.)
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September 27, 2013, 07:27:23 AM
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Hey pool owners; anytime you want to get out of the potato couch is a good time.

The limbo transactions are piling up here.

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September 27, 2013, 11:05:16 AM
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Ok, so my transaction is still unconfirmed after last nights block.

doesn't deepbit do all it's payments via the 1VayNert3x1KzbpzMGt2qdqrAThiRovi8 account?  there are quite a few in that block

http://blockexplorer.com/block/0000000000000000f63386e81e6b163fded690630ece2132e777d0b48aa9ab94

maybe it has a max block size of 100kb?

re: the payment that got paid afterwards, i guess some probably qualify as priority transactions?

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September 28, 2013, 02:01:42 PM
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Um.. its 2013, does deepbit still not have stratum support? O_o;
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September 28, 2013, 02:22:43 PM
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Um.. its 2013, does deepbit still not have stratum support? O_o;
correct
probably has something to do with its place in this list too http://blockorigin.pfoe.be/top.php

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September 29, 2013, 05:52:33 AM
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Another block and payment received  Smiley
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September 29, 2013, 06:40:34 AM
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yep, here too, everytime we get paid we get more BTC that we can't transfer immediately, it's the catch 22 of old software. Musical chairs for the ones that can't/won't install stratum proxy.

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September 29, 2013, 06:47:32 AM
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yep, here too, everytime we get paid we get more BTC that we can't transfer immediately, it's the catch 22 of old software. Musical chairs for the ones that can't/won't install stratum proxy.
most up to date mining software will do stratum natively and doesn't require proxy, an exception being some of the new asic stuff that comes with getwork miners installed

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September 29, 2013, 07:11:38 AM
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Just to be clear, I can get instant payout, but my payments reach over the 0.01 minimum requirement anyway so for me it is possible to do. I am not personally worried about anything under 0.01 btc anyway, but thats just me.
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September 30, 2013, 09:10:23 AM
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But I use bitcoind 0.8.1 and smaller sums confirms directly, does bitcoind automatically add fees? how come I don't see them? Also why doesn't blockchain.info show the transaction as unconfirmed instead of not found?
because Deepbit was doing their thing was before blockchain.info existed
Deepbit mine their own transactions so the probably aren't announced to the network like a standard bitcoind would
Our transactions are announced normally, to lots of different nodes. But I think that small low-priority transactions are not relayed by others if there is no fee.

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September 30, 2013, 09:17:32 AM
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Deepbit actually solved two blocks last night!
I got over 0.1 BTC in rewards, but am only able to transfer out whole bitcents so I have 0.00977515 BTC leftover which is very annoying!  We can never close out the whole balance?  I can see automatic payments only being in increments of 0.01, but if we do an instant payout it should give everything.
Or, if you wanna keep it, give me a "donate remaining balance to pool" option.  It just peeves me that there will ALWAYS be numbers in my account and can never make it 0.00000000.
Yes, you CAN withdraw everything down to 0.00000000 BTC
Only automatic payments have 0.01 BTC precision, but if you have over 0.01 BTC in your account, you can go to "Payments" page, copy-paste your total balance in the request form and click the button. It won't be rounded.

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September 30, 2013, 09:20:13 AM
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yep, here too, everytime we get paid we get more BTC that we can't transfer immediately, it's the catch 22 of old software.
There is no catch. If someone wants to leave, he can stop mining, wait for all rewards to be accounted and then request the full-precision payment.

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September 30, 2013, 09:41:07 AM
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Musical chairs, the one who leaves last gets nothing... or atleast has top wait a long time... now its multiple days, soon it's going to be multiple weeks...

yep, here too, everytime we get paid we get more BTC that we can't transfer immediately, it's the catch 22 of old software.
There is no catch. If someone wants to leave, he can stop mining, wait for all rewards to be accounted and then request the full-precision payment.

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September 30, 2013, 12:26:38 PM
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Deepbit actually solved two blocks last night!
I got over 0.1 BTC in rewards, but am only able to transfer out whole bitcents so I have 0.00977515 BTC leftover which is very annoying!  We can never close out the whole balance?  I can see automatic payments only being in increments of 0.01, but if we do an instant payout it should give everything.
Or, if you wanna keep it, give me a "donate remaining balance to pool" option.  It just peeves me that there will ALWAYS be numbers in my account and can never make it 0.00000000.
Yes, you CAN withdraw everything down to 0.00000000 BTC
Only automatic payments have 0.01 BTC precision, but if you have over 0.01 BTC in your account, you can go to "Payments" page, copy-paste your total balance in the request form and click the button. It won't be rounded.

I can't see a request form. Where is it?
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September 30, 2013, 12:32:36 PM
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Deepbit actually solved two blocks last night!
I got over 0.1 BTC in rewards, but am only able to transfer out whole bitcents so I have 0.00977515 BTC leftover which is very annoying!  We can never close out the whole balance?  I can see automatic payments only being in increments of 0.01, but if we do an instant payout it should give everything.
Or, if you wanna keep it, give me a "donate remaining balance to pool" option.  It just peeves me that there will ALWAYS be numbers in my account and can never make it 0.00000000.
Yes, you CAN withdraw everything down to 0.00000000 BTC
Only automatic payments have 0.01 BTC precision, but if you have over 0.01 BTC in your account, you can go to "Payments" page, copy-paste your total balance in the request form and click the button. It won't be rounded.

I can't see a request form. Where is it?

Go to "Payments".  It is the editable field to the left of the "Instant Payout" Button.

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September 30, 2013, 12:57:26 PM
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I don't see it now. I remember seeing it long atime ago  Huh

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