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Author Topic: [DEAD] DeepBit.net PPS+Prop,instant payouts, we pay for INVALID BLOCKS too  (Read 1452690 times)
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August 09, 2013, 01:10:14 AM
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Too many other good pools have fallen by the wayside because they dropped common sense business practices and tried to bend to the consumers whims.  That doesn't work when most of those consumers of a service couldn't care less about anything but themselves.
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Thanks Sam. What kinds of things specifically do you believe the pools have done to suit the consumer that has effected them negatively?
*edit The person who pointed out Stratum was you, just realized after I dug up the link to edit my prior post =)

No fee or too low of a fee PPS.

Interesting, because I actually feel as if I get more shares on Deepbit PPS than BTC Guild running block erupter - which is how I tried rationalizing the 10% fee. I am going to run on each one for 24 hours to compare, although I know difficulty is always going up -- I think I'll give deepbit the advantage and run them first.

2 Hour Test (336MH/s ASIC)
Deepbit: 555 shares Hardware Errors: 14
BTC Guild: 560 shares Hardware Errors: 4

... and I guess you don't realise that Hardware Errors has nothing to do with the pool?

Also, a 2 hour run at a lowly 336MH/s can easily vary way more than that ... you are getting a lowly ~1% variance there

I've had 20% last for 2 hours (that of course had nothing to do with the pool, it was simply statistical random variance)

The item that DOES relate to the pool, the protocol and the device being used, is the reject %

However, you'd need to run 1000 AMUs for days to get anything that you might consider evidence of issues
... or you could just analyse the protocols and the devices, to work it out ...

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August 09, 2013, 01:50:04 AM
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... and I guess you don't realise that Hardware Errors has nothing to do with the pool?

That makes sense, but why then do the HW errors double on getwork over stratum?  It's very consistent.

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August 09, 2013, 02:20:44 AM
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... and I guess you don't realise that Hardware Errors has nothing to do with the pool?

That makes sense, but why then do the HW errors double on getwork over stratum?  It's very consistent.
It shouldn't - maybe coincidence?

The only thing I could think of that may affect HW errors beyond the usual temperature, OC, etc is work latency.
i.e. the gap between each job "might" increase or decrease HW % depending on the effect it has on the chip.
However, for a 335MH/s device, GetWork vs Stratum would not affect that.

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August 09, 2013, 10:59:06 PM
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Too many other good pools have fallen by the wayside because they dropped common sense business practices and tried to bend to the consumers whims.  That doesn't work when most of those consumers of a service couldn't care less about anything but themselves.
My two Satoshi's worth,
Sam

Thanks Sam. What kinds of things specifically do you believe the pools have done to suit the consumer that has effected them negatively?
*edit The person who pointed out Stratum was you, just realized after I dug up the link to edit my prior post =)

No fee or too low of a fee PPS.

Interesting, because I actually feel as if I get more shares on Deepbit PPS than BTC Guild running block erupter - which is how I tried rationalizing the 10% fee. I am going to run on each one for 24 hours to compare, although I know difficulty is always going up -- I think I'll give deepbit the advantage and run them first.

2 Hour Test (336MH/s ASIC)
Deepbit: 555 shares Hardware Errors: 14
BTC Guild: 560 shares Hardware Errors: 4

... and I guess you don't realise that Hardware Errors has nothing to do with the pool?

Also, a 2 hour run at a lowly 336MH/s can easily vary way more than that ... you are getting a lowly ~1% variance there

I've had 20% last for 2 hours (that of course had nothing to do with the pool, it was simply statistical random variance)

The item that DOES relate to the pool, the protocol and the device being used, is the reject %

However, you'd need to run 1000 AMUs for days to get anything that you might consider evidence of issues
... or you could just analyse the protocols and the devices, to work it out ...

Not meant to be scientific in any means, however I am curious about the HW errors. During both tests the chip was not touched with a fan blowing on it.

I did forget to include the rejected shares and didn't take a screen shot. Oh well.

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August 09, 2013, 11:05:18 PM
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I did forget to include the rejected shares and didn't take a screen shot. Oh well.

The rejects are negligible.  .1% for BTCGuild and Deepbit.

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August 13, 2013, 01:12:50 AM
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I also wonder how the number of hardware errors could depend on the pool...

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August 13, 2013, 11:37:08 AM
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Tycho, I sent you a pm about payments being suspended on my deepbit account and I also sent email to pool@deepbit.net. I have been waiting for days but have not received any answer. I would like to have the bitcoins remaining in my deepbit account to be paid back to my withdraw address.
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August 13, 2013, 01:35:24 PM
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Tycho, I sent you a pm about payments being suspended on my deepbit account and I also sent email to pool@deepbit.net. I have been waiting for days but have not received any answer. I would like to have the bitcoins remaining in my deepbit account to be paid back to my withdraw address.
Problem solved.

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August 13, 2013, 03:04:05 PM
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Tycho, I sent you a pm about payments being suspended on my deepbit account and I also sent email to pool@deepbit.net. I have been waiting for days but have not received any answer. I would like to have the bitcoins remaining in my deepbit account to be paid back to my withdraw address.
Problem solved.
Thanks!
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August 14, 2013, 05:26:00 PM
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EDIT: Now you can try some new exciting feature - optional Pay-Per-Share mode is enabled in my pool. You can choose payments method for any of your workers, look at your account page for workers configuration. Current rate is 0.00002209487837767 BTC per share.



i'm only getting 0.00000044 per share

also, what should my work refresh rate be set to based on my hash speed?, is there a chart somewhere that i can reference?

last question, say i have several workers, would you recommend that i have some of them set to pps and some to prop?? just to mix it up a bit?
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August 14, 2013, 05:37:51 PM
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Trying to use puddinpop's rpc miners. I've never joined a pool before--what am I missing?

Code:
rpcminer-4way.exe -server=deepbit.net -port=8332 -user=XXX@XXXXXXXXX.com -password=XXXXX

EDIT: Never mind, figured it out. Replacing server/port with -url=http://example.com:8332

i am also using rpcminer... what's the difference between the 4-way and the cpuminer? i can't tell a difference in speed... does one have a certain advantage over another?
which one do you recommend?
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August 14, 2013, 07:14:45 PM
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i'm only getting 0.00000044 per share
Please check the main webpage for current PPS price. Forum posts are not updated automatically.

also, what should my work refresh rate be set to based on my hash speed?, is there a chart somewhere that i can reference?
last question, say i have several workers, would you recommend that i have some of them set to pps and some to prop?? just to mix it up a bit?
Are you using CPU or nVidia equipment for mining ? I should warn you that this is not profitable and probably won't worth it.

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August 15, 2013, 02:25:00 PM
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[Tycho]  for gods sake

is it rocket science to implement a stratum server?

common now:)

do we need to make a petion or what?
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August 15, 2013, 02:26:13 PM
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[Tycho]  for gods sake

is it rocket science to implement a stratum server?

common now:)

do we need to make a petion or what?
The petition is leaving the pool.

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August 15, 2013, 03:52:18 PM
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Whats happen with deepbit? I have new worker from yestarday - d.cuirk   1558   0.51%   19h 35m   N/A

252302
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2,926.64614331 BTC
   
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This is minimum third block after my submithed shares, nothing paid. Proportional
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August 15, 2013, 05:11:15 PM
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I should warn you that this is not profitable and probably won't worth it.

but my computer is on 24/7 as it is so wouldn't it be worth it?
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August 15, 2013, 06:08:38 PM
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I should warn you that this is not profitable and probably won't worth it.

but my computer is on 24/7 as it is so wouldn't it be worth it?

well i fu see btc at 1000 5000  then it might be worth it:)

in runigs half a terra and seems bad
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August 15, 2013, 09:29:29 PM
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[Tycho]  for gods sake

is it rocket science to implement a stratum server?

common now:)

do we need to make a petion or what?
The petition is leaving the pool.

i know this guys are snuffing kokaine of 15 year old bellys

but dont u wanna keep it going?

if ur to hi all the time then pay a fakin high school kid to doit for 10  btc

and u have stratum server fakin aint?


its just crazy

wtf tycho:)

we are the resistance we willl fight to the end:)
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August 15, 2013, 10:23:06 PM
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I should warn you that this is not profitable and probably won't worth it.

but my computer is on 24/7 as it is so wouldn't it be worth it?

If your CPU mining then you will use up allot more electricity than you will ever earn.  Same goes for low end GPU's now and maybe even for high end GPU's.

But like someone else said, if the Bitcoin price increases enough, who knows?

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
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A: Top-posting.
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August 15, 2013, 11:26:45 PM
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With current 50.8M difficulty and mining at 100Mh/s you expect to find a block, on average, once every ...
25,258.4days ... or 69years
With variance making that possibly even 8 or even 10 times, at 8 times that's 553years ...

Or pool mining, 0.00098977 BTC a day before you take out fees ...

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